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Post by confuzzled dude Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:16 pm

America’s great public research universities, which produce path-breaking discoveries and train some of the country’s most talented young students, are under siege. The result may be a significant weakening of the nation’s preeminence in higher education. Dramatic cuts in public spending for state flagship universities seem to be at odds with widespread public sentiment. Americans say they strongly believe in exceptional educational systems; they want their kids to attend excellent and selective colleges and to get good, well-paying, prestigious jobs. They also support university research. After 15 years of surveys, Research! America found in 2015 that 70 percent of American adults supported government-sponsored basic scientific research like that produced by public universities, while a significant plurality (44 percent) supported paying higher taxes for medical research designed to cure diseases like cancer or Alzheimer’s. Nonetheless, many state legislators seem to be ignoring public opinion as they essentially starve some of the best universities—those that educate about two-thirds of American college students.

According to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences’ recently completed Lincoln Project report, between 2008 and 2013 states reduced financial support to top public research universities by close to 30 percent. At the same time, these states increased support of prisons by more than 130 percent. New York City’s budget office reported in 2013 that incarcerating a person in a state prison cost the city roughly $168,000 a year. California apparently does it on the cheap: It costs roughly $64,000 annually for each prisoner—a bit more than the cost of a year at an Ivy League university (average tuition is $50,000) and far more than at the University of California, Berkeley, ($13,000) or at CUNY ($8,000).

The withdrawal of state funds is often one of the direct causes of increased college tuition—not necessarily an increase in faculty size, spending on construction, or administrative costs. Yet, many state policymakers attribute the increased tuition to wasteful spending by the universities. To fill the financial hole, state universities are going national and international—admitting many more out-of-state and foreign students, who sometimes pay as much as three times the tuition of state residents.
http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/04/the-pillaging-of-americas-state-universities/477594/

This precisely is why Gorgia Techs, UVAs are looking more and more for out-of-state students.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:53 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
America’s great public research universities, which produce path-breaking discoveries and train some of the country’s most talented young students, are under siege. The result may be a significant weakening of the nation’s preeminence in higher education. Dramatic cuts in public spending for state flagship universities seem to be at odds with widespread public sentiment. Americans say they strongly believe in exceptional educational systems; they want their kids to attend excellent and selective colleges and to get good, well-paying, prestigious jobs. They also support university research. After 15 years of surveys, Research! America found in 2015 that 70 percent of American adults supported government-sponsored basic scientific research like that produced by public universities, while a significant plurality (44 percent) supported paying higher taxes for medical research designed to cure diseases like cancer or Alzheimer’s. Nonetheless, many state legislators seem to be ignoring public opinion as they essentially starve some of the best universities—those that educate about two-thirds of American college students.

According to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences’ recently completed Lincoln Project report, between 2008 and 2013 states reduced financial support to top public research universities by close to 30 percent. At the same time, these states increased support of prisons by more than 130 percent. New York City’s budget office reported in 2013 that incarcerating a person in a state prison cost the city roughly $168,000 a year. California apparently does it on the cheap: It costs roughly $64,000 annually for each prisoner—a bit more than the cost of a year at an Ivy League university (average tuition is $50,000) and far more than at the University of California, Berkeley, ($13,000) or at CUNY ($8,000).

The withdrawal of state funds is often one of the direct causes of increased college tuition—not necessarily an increase in faculty size, spending on construction, or administrative costs. Yet, many state policymakers attribute the increased tuition to wasteful spending by the universities. To fill the financial hole, state universities are going national and international—admitting many more out-of-state and foreign students, who sometimes pay as much as three times the tuition of state residents.
http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/04/the-pillaging-of-americas-state-universities/477594/

This precisely is why Gorgia Techs, UVAs are looking more and more for out-of-state students.

Berkeley and UCLA also did this by admitting Indians and Chikus - though very good - thus bringing in 3 times the fee, thus subsiudizing the domestic students. However, with limits on admissions it took a big chunk in domestic admissions - leading to protests and rescinding this practice. But, still they admit out of state US students to collect higher fee/tuition.

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:00 pm

There is a perception that the UCal system has lots of Indians and Chinese, but that's not true. Most of the people saamiyaar is referring to are American citizens.
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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:16 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:There is a perception that the UCal system has lots of Indians and Chinese, but that's not true. Most of the people saamiyaar is referring to are American citizens.

You are right... at present, the Indians/Chinkus on UCal are US citizens - although significantly more out of staters than 10/15 yrs ago. 5 years ago, these were literally importing non-US desis/Chinkus at the expense of admission to US-Citizen Desi/Chinkus.

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