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looks like UCLA killer was a desi
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ucla-campus-shooting-victim-gunman-safety-protocols/
mainik sarkar...potential rapist, pincher and groper of women.
mainik sarkar...potential rapist, pincher and groper of women.
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this is why failed phd students are so dangerous if they werent so pathetic:
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-mainak-sarkar-ucla-20160602-snap-story.html
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-mainak-sarkar-ucla-20160602-snap-story.html
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But a confirmed assassin enabled by the NRA. Oh I'm surprised gownder mama hasn't yet discovered that he is an IIT alum.
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MaxEntropy_Man wrote:But a confirmed assassin enabled by the NRA. Oh I'm surprised gownder mama hasn't yet discovered that he is an IIT alum.
but woulda been ok if he had only stabbed the kindly professor?
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The irony is that he isn't "failed". His poor advisor, the victim, apparently tried hard and succeeded in getting a weak student over the final hurdle. At least that's the news. We'll wait till the gory details come out.
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well, failed/frustated, whatever...guy graduated in 2013, who spends 12+ yrs in grad/postgrad school without being a failure in someway.
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IIT-Kharagpur.....
Seva and Carvaka are his seniors......
Hmm.....
Seva and Carvaka are his seniors......
Hmm.....
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UCLA, that would glut admin's alma too....coincidence?
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Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:IIT-Kharagpur.....
Seva and Carvaka are his seniors......
Hmm.....
Not to mention Kejriwal....
his home in Minnesota ? That Somali terror base in Amrika????
Now Trump can call for banning Terrorist Indians - at least northIndians - badly influenced by the iSlamis .
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How do you pronounce his name ... Maniac?
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Rhymes with Sainikgoodcitizn wrote:How do you pronounce his name ... Maniac?
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This unfortunate tragedy aside, he probably wasn't a weak student -- B.Tech. in aerospace engg. from IIT KGP, M.S. from Stanford in ME (?), before going for a Ph.D. at UCLA.MaxEntropy_Man wrote:The irony is that he isn't "failed". His poor advisor, the victim, apparently tried hard and succeeded in getting a weak student over the final hurdle. At least that's the news. We'll wait till the gory details come out.
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I thought you were OK with legal purchase of handguns, Il Professore and only wanted background checks etc. Are you now revealing your true agenda? Apparently an intellectual property right dispute was tied to the shooting. More Walter White?MaxEntropy_Man wrote:But a confirmed assassin enabled by the NRA. Oh I'm surprised gownder mama hasn't yet discovered that he is an IIT alum.
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Btw is there a problem with the Ph.D. program at this college, as the students working for Ph.D. seem to be taking unusually long time (e.g. 7 or 8 yrs.):
"On the UCLA website Sarkar is listed as part of the Klug Research Group, a team of six postdoctoral and PhD students researching biomechanics. Two others, besides Sarkar, are of Indian-origin: Ankush Aggarwal, ME Ph.D. student, 2008-, and Shankarjee Krishnamoorthi, ME PhD student, 2009-. Sarkar is the seniormost of the lot with a Phd enrollment going back to 2006, two years longer than any of the others." (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/IIT-Kharagpur-alumnus-kills-US-professor-at-UCLA-over-academic-spat/articleshow/52559222.cms)
"On the UCLA website Sarkar is listed as part of the Klug Research Group, a team of six postdoctoral and PhD students researching biomechanics. Two others, besides Sarkar, are of Indian-origin: Ankush Aggarwal, ME Ph.D. student, 2008-, and Shankarjee Krishnamoorthi, ME PhD student, 2009-. Sarkar is the seniormost of the lot with a Phd enrollment going back to 2006, two years longer than any of the others." (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/IIT-Kharagpur-alumnus-kills-US-professor-at-UCLA-over-academic-spat/articleshow/52559222.cms)
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The madness continues.
http://heavy.com/news/2016/06/ashley-hasti-mainak-sarkar-minnesota-girlfriend-ucla-gunman-photos-pictures-facebook-kill-list/
http://heavy.com/news/2016/06/ashley-hasti-mainak-sarkar-minnesota-girlfriend-ucla-gunman-photos-pictures-facebook-kill-list/
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Can't wait for Drumpf to have a cow about Indian grad students.
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You are as obsessed with Trump as Comrade with Modi, Il Professore.MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Can't wait for Drumpf to have a cow about Indian grad students.
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sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.
there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs.
the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.
sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.
there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs.
the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.
sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.
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It's unlikely Sarkar had a visa problem. He seems to have been married to an American woman (the one he killed). My guess is that he is just a case of garden variety mental.
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swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.
there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs.
the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.
sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.
thanks for regurgitating news article we already knew+your worthless analysis based on nothing.
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If it was a case of piracy over intellectual property why would he kill his wife? There's a lot more to this that we don't know about.
He kills two people and worries about his cat!
He kills two people and worries about his cat!
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goodcitizn wrote:If it was a case of piracy over intellectual property why would he kill his wife? There's a lot more to this that we don't know about.
He kills two people and worries about his cat!
mentally unbalanced...long years of toiling on phd when one doesnt have the temperament does it to ppl...case in point....well, lets leave it at that
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Long time for getting a Ph.D. -- why are these students made to spend so much time?swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.
there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs.
the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.
sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.
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possibly to get senior ph.d. students to spend a longer period of time researching problems with which they are already familiar, so that the professor can publish more papers.Seva Lamberdar wrote:Long time for getting a Ph.D. -- why are these students made to spend so much time?swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.
there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs.
the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.
sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.
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goodcitizn wrote:If it was a case of piracy over intellectual property why would he kill his wife? There's a lot more to this that we don't know about.
He kills two people and worries about his cat!
Hey the dead don't need anyone to feed them. The living cat still does. Would you want your dog to starve, GC?
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Do you know any professors that claimed credit for their students' work, Il Professore?MaxEntropy_Man wrote:It's unlikely Sarkar had a visa problem. He seems to have been married to an American woman (the one he killed). My guess is that he is just a case of garden variety mental.
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Ahem, are you a cat lover? ;-)Hellsangel wrote:goodcitizn wrote:If it was a case of piracy over intellectual property why would he kill his wife? There's a lot more to this that we don't know about.
He kills two people and worries about his cat!
Hey the dead don't need anyone to feed them. The living cat still does. Would you want your dog to starve, GC?
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goodcitizn wrote:Ahem, are you a cat lover? ;-)Hellsangel wrote:goodcitizn wrote:If it was a case of piracy over intellectual property why would he kill his wife? There's a lot more to this that we don't know about.
He kills two people and worries about his cat!
Hey the dead don't need anyone to feed them. The living cat still does. Would you want your dog to starve, GC?
I like dogs too , GC. And if it had been a dog instead of a cat, my response would have been the same.
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If he had the time to procure enough ammo and plan the killings, and if he really cared about the cat, he ought to have left it at a shelter. Any news on what happened to it?Hellsangel wrote:goodcitizn wrote:Ahem, are you a cat lover? ;-)Hellsangel wrote:goodcitizn wrote:If it was a case of piracy over intellectual property why would he kill his wife? There's a lot more to this that we don't know about.
He kills two people and worries about his cat!
Hey the dead don't need anyone to feed them. The living cat still does. Would you want your dog to starve, GC?
I like dogs too , GC. And if it had been a dog instead of a cat, my response would have been the same.
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Probably was distraught and wasn't thinking straight in the first place when he left MN. I have no idea what happened to the cat.goodcitizn wrote:If he had the time to procure enough ammo and plan the killings, and if he really cared about the cat, he ought to have left it at a shelter. Any news on what happened to it?Hellsangel wrote:goodcitizn wrote:Ahem, are you a cat lover? ;-)Hellsangel wrote:goodcitizn wrote:If it was a case of piracy over intellectual property why would he kill his wife? There's a lot more to this that we don't know about.
He kills two people and worries about his cat!
Hey the dead don't need anyone to feed them. The living cat still does. Would you want your dog to starve, GC?
I like dogs too , GC. And if it had been a dog instead of a cat, my response would have been the same.
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BTW, many people were shot in that liberal bastion called Chicago over the memorial day weekend, but let's talk about this.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-shootings-memorial-day-20160529-story.html
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-shootings-memorial-day-20160529-story.html
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you're welcome. you're quite excited about all this, aren't you? are you disappointed that neither sex nor fecal matter played a role in the shooting? could you try to calm yourself down a bit?Propagandhi711 wrote:swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.
there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs.
the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.
sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.
thanks for regurgitating news article we already knew+your worthless analysis based on nothing.
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What is there to talk about? Violence unfortunately has become a part of Chicago culture, particularly on the West and South. Even the cops are reluctant to go into certain areas controlled by gangs. Those who go bar-hopping during the Memorial Day weekend are crazy. I have seen teenagers brandishing guns in cars at intersections. There is zero respect for the law.Hellsangel wrote:BTW, many people were shot in that liberal bastion called Chicago over the memorial day weekend, but let's talk about this.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-shootings-memorial-day-20160529-story
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swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.
there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs.
the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.
sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.
It looks like he strongly believed that his advisor "stole" his code that was part of his thesis. He had specific gripes against certain people and hence there is a clear motive unlike the other random campus incidents.
It is a gray area as schools are trying to gain patents (and hence make money) out of anything remotely good. Also, the advisor and his group could be extending/altering this dude's code for other projects. Finally, this guy did his PhD for 7 yrs the max limit in most schools. He is an aerospace engineer (Duh...) and swictched over to biomechanics and biology - which is a totally different field and a far more fundamental than "Aerospace" (Which is part Structures, part Controls and part mechanical).
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Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.
there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs.
the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.
sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.
It looks like he strongly believed that his advisor "stole" his code that was part of his thesis. He had specific gripes against certain people and hence there is a clear motive unlike the other random campus incidents.
It is a gray area as schools are trying to gain patents (and hence make money) out of anything remotely good. Also, the advisor and his group could be extending/altering this dude's code for other projects. Finally, this guy did his PhD for 7 yrs the max limit in most schools. He is an aerospace engineer (Duh...) and swictched over to biomechanics and biology - which is a totally different field and a far more fundamental than "Aerospace" (Which is part Structures, part Controls and part mechanical).
hahaha @ IIT aerospace engineer!
IIT aerospace engineer switching to biology.. Biology!!!! got very lucky, i guess
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swapna wrote:you're welcome. you're quite excited about all this, aren't you? are you disappointed that neither sex nor fecal matter played a role in the shooting? could you try to calm yourself down a bit?Propagandhi711 wrote:swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.
there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs.
the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.
sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.
thanks for regurgitating news article we already knew+your worthless analysis based on nothing.
none more excited than you, douchebag...this guy touches a nerve doesnt he, the way you're sympathetic to his plight and everything?
I cant relate to assholes like this that blame external sources for their problems, which, incidentally is your modus operandi. infact I think if the butterfly wings beat in a slightly different frequency, this coulda been you. same brand of egomania, paranoia and unjustified anger at others.
but for now, report back on what the econonjournobrunners are thinking about this situation. you must be stuck on that board like a fly
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not biology, computational biomechanics. this may well have been a huge misunderstanding on the part of sarkar as to the disposition of IP. any IP be it a patent or proprietary code that is developed as part of a project conducted at a university using the university's technical and administrative resources, does not belong to the individuals who worked on it but to the university. the university may have prior agreements with faculty members and students (sometimes this is a uniform policy and sometimes it's developed on a case by case basis for each project) on how royalty payments are to be shared between the university and the inventors, should the IP be licensed by some entity, but the IP itself is owned by the university in perpetuity unless someone buys it from them.
code developed by individual students on projects are absolutely legally shareable by the principal investigator (i.e. the professor) with other people working on the project including future participants. this may have frustrated sarkar. it is becoming evident with this revelation that he killed his wife, that he was in an agitated state of mind, and the frustration about his code must have thrown him over the edge.
code developed by individual students on projects are absolutely legally shareable by the principal investigator (i.e. the professor) with other people working on the project including future participants. this may have frustrated sarkar. it is becoming evident with this revelation that he killed his wife, that he was in an agitated state of mind, and the frustration about his code must have thrown him over the edge.
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PS: you guys theorizing about this asshole killing the prof due to some *justifiable* anger, what explains him killing his ugly wife if not psychosis?
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Propagandhi711 wrote:swapna wrote:you're welcome. you're quite excited about all this, aren't you? are you disappointed that neither sex nor fecal matter played a role in the shooting? could you try to calm yourself down a bit?Propagandhi711 wrote:swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.
there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs.
the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.
sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.
thanks for regurgitating news article we already knew+your worthless analysis based on nothing.
none more excited than you, douchebag...this guy touches a nerve doesnt he, the way you're sympathetic to his plight and everything?
I cant relate to assholes like this that blame external sources for their problems, which, incidentally is your modus operandi. infact I think if the butterfly wings beat in a slightly different frequency, this coulda been you. same brand of egomania, paranoia and unjustified anger at others.
but for now, report back on what the econonjournobrunners are thinking about this situation. you must be stuck on that board like a fly
amen to that - couldn't be more correct!
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garam_kuta wrote:Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.
there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs.
the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.
sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.
It looks like he strongly believed that his advisor "stole" his code that was part of his thesis. He had specific gripes against certain people and hence there is a clear motive unlike the other random campus incidents.
It is a gray area as schools are trying to gain patents (and hence make money) out of anything remotely good. Also, the advisor and his group could be extending/altering this dude's code for other projects. Finally, this guy did his PhD for 7 yrs the max limit in most schools. He is an aerospace engineer (Duh...) and swictched over to biomechanics and biology - which is a totally different field and a far more fundamental than "Aerospace" (Which is part Structures, part Controls and part mechanical).
hahaha @ IIT aerospace engineer!
IIT aerospace engineer switching to biology.. Biology!!!! got very lucky, i guess
It's not switching to biology, but applying mechanics and mechanical engineering to problems related to biology (e.g. in orthopedics, heart valves, blood vessels etc. as a part of biomechanics).
Re: looks like UCLA killer was a desi
Seva Lamberdar wrote:garam_kuta wrote:Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.
there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs.
the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.
sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.
It looks like he strongly believed that his advisor "stole" his code that was part of his thesis. He had specific gripes against certain people and hence there is a clear motive unlike the other random campus incidents.
It is a gray area as schools are trying to gain patents (and hence make money) out of anything remotely good. Also, the advisor and his group could be extending/altering this dude's code for other projects. Finally, this guy did his PhD for 7 yrs the max limit in most schools. He is an aerospace engineer (Duh...) and swictched over to biomechanics and biology - which is a totally different field and a far more fundamental than "Aerospace" (Which is part Structures, part Controls and part mechanical).
hahaha @ IIT aerospace engineer!
IIT aerospace engineer switching to biology.. Biology!!!! got very lucky, i guess
It's not switching to biology, but applying mechanics and mechanical engineering to problems related to biology (e.g. in orthopedics, heart valves, blood vessels etc. as a part of biomechanics).
sorry, seva, i should have tagged that my reply was marked for sapna
garam_kuta- Posts : 3768
Join date : 2011-05-18
Re: looks like UCLA killer was a desi
biomechanics is the application of mechanics and mechanical engineering to the workings of living bodies, usually the human body. there are important common areas between biomechanical engineering and aerospace engineering.Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.
there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs.
the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.
sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.
It looks like he strongly believed that his advisor "stole" his code that was part of his thesis. He had specific gripes against certain people and hence there is a clear motive unlike the other random campus incidents.
It is a gray area as schools are trying to gain patents (and hence make money) out of anything remotely good. Also, the advisor and his group could be extending/altering this dude's code for other projects. Finally, this guy did his PhD for 7 yrs the max limit in most schools. He is an aerospace engineer (Duh...) and swictched over to biomechanics and biology - which is a totally different field and a far more fundamental than "Aerospace" (Which is part Structures, part Controls and part mechanical).
examples: the development of prosthetics (stresses, deformation, failure, reversal of stresses, fatigue failures) and the development and design of landing gear (stresses, deformation, etc.); fluid dynamics is a large, common area.
biology is entirely different from biomechanics. biology is largely about living cells, biomechanics is not. the latter is a lot closer to mechanical and aerospace engineering, and.applied physics than it is to biology.
moreover, cross fertilization between various fields of engineering and bioengineering has been highly productive. example: the dialysis machine was developed largely by chemical engineers.
ah, you already knew all this? why then do you sound as if you didn't?
swapna- Posts : 1951
Join date : 2013-11-27
Re: looks like UCLA killer was a desi
he did not switch to biology, but to biomechanics or biomechanical engineering. ignorance on display! -ignorance of the differences between biology, biomechanics, and engineering. please take a dose of stfumycin, drink plenty of water, and rest in bed for a day.garam_kuta wrote:Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.
there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs.
the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.
sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.
It looks like he strongly believed that his advisor "stole" his code that was part of his thesis. He had specific gripes against certain people and hence there is a clear motive unlike the other random campus incidents.
It is a gray area as schools are trying to gain patents (and hence make money) out of anything remotely good. Also, the advisor and his group could be extending/altering this dude's code for other projects. Finally, this guy did his PhD for 7 yrs the max limit in most schools. He is an aerospace engineer (Duh...) and swictched over to biomechanics and biology - which is a totally different field and a far more fundamental than "Aerospace" (Which is part Structures, part Controls and part mechanical).
hahaha @ IIT aerospace engineer!
IIT aerospace engineer switching to biology.. Biology!!!! got very lucky, i guess
swapna- Posts : 1951
Join date : 2013-11-27
Re: looks like UCLA killer was a desi
swapna wrote:biomechanics is the application of mechanics and mechanical engineering to the workings of living bodies, usually the human body. there are important common areas between biomechanical engineering and aerospace engineering.Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.
there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs.
the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.
sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.
It looks like he strongly believed that his advisor "stole" his code that was part of his thesis. He had specific gripes against certain people and hence there is a clear motive unlike the other random campus incidents.
It is a gray area as schools are trying to gain patents (and hence make money) out of anything remotely good. Also, the advisor and his group could be extending/altering this dude's code for other projects. Finally, this guy did his PhD for 7 yrs the max limit in most schools. He is an aerospace engineer (Duh...) and swictched over to biomechanics and biology - which is a totally different field and a far more fundamental than "Aerospace" (Which is part Structures, part Controls and part mechanical).
examples: the development of prosthetics (stresses, deformation, failure, reversal of stresses, fatigue failures) and the development and design of landing gear (stresses, deformation, etc.); fluid dynamics is a large, common area.
biology is entirely different from biomechanics. biology is largely about living cells, biomechanics is not. the latter is a lot closer to mechanical and aerospace engineering, and.applied physics than it is to biology.
moreover, cross fertilization between various fields of engineering and bioengineering has been highly productive. example: the dialysis machine was developed largely by chemical engineers.
ah, you already knew all this? why then do you sound as if you didn't?
....You should send an email to Bill.
Marathadi-Saamiyaar- Posts : 17675
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Re: looks like UCLA killer was a desi
swapna wrote:he did not switch to biology, but to biomechanics or biomechanical engineering. ignorance on display! -ignorance of the differences between biology, biomechanics, and engineering. please take a dose of stfumycin, drink plenty of water, and rest in bed for a day.garam_kuta wrote:Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.
there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs.
the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.
sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.
It looks like he strongly believed that his advisor "stole" his code that was part of his thesis. He had specific gripes against certain people and hence there is a clear motive unlike the other random campus incidents.
It is a gray area as schools are trying to gain patents (and hence make money) out of anything remotely good. Also, the advisor and his group could be extending/altering this dude's code for other projects. Finally, this guy did his PhD for 7 yrs the max limit in most schools. He is an aerospace engineer (Duh...) and swictched over to biomechanics and biology - which is a totally different field and a far more fundamental than "Aerospace" (Which is part Structures, part Controls and part mechanical).
hahaha @ IIT aerospace engineer!
IIT aerospace engineer switching to biology.. Biology!!!! got very lucky, i guess
"...swictched over to biomechanics and biology..." says the source and i responded to that. but then, you know why i wrote that. don't you?
garam_kuta- Posts : 3768
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Re: looks like UCLA killer was a desi
http://www.firstpost.com/world/ucla-shooting-answers-to-mainak-sarkar-mystery-may-lie-in-prosenjit-poddars-story-2815358.html
MaxEntropy_Man- Posts : 14702
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Re: looks like UCLA killer was a desi
swapna wrote:biomechanics is the application of mechanics and mechanical engineering to the workings of living bodies, usually the human body. there are important common areas between biomechanical engineering and aerospace engineering.Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.
there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs.
the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.
sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.
It looks like he strongly believed that his advisor "stole" his code that was part of his thesis. He had specific gripes against certain people and hence there is a clear motive unlike the other random campus incidents.
It is a gray area as schools are trying to gain patents (and hence make money) out of anything remotely good. Also, the advisor and his group could be extending/altering this dude's code for other projects. Finally, this guy did his PhD for 7 yrs the max limit in most schools. He is an aerospace engineer (Duh...) and swictched over to biomechanics and biology - which is a totally different field and a far more fundamental than "Aerospace" (Which is part Structures, part Controls and part mechanical).
examples: the development of prosthetics (stresses, deformation, failure, reversal of stresses, fatigue failures) and the development and design of landing gear (stresses, deformation, etc.); fluid dynamics is a large, common area.
biology is entirely different from biomechanics. biology is largely about living cells, biomechanics is not. the latter is a lot closer to mechanical and aerospace engineering, and.applied physics than it is to biology.
moreover, cross fertilization between various fields of engineering and bioengineering has been highly productive. example: the dialysis machine was developed largely by chemical engineers.
ah, you already knew all this? why then do you sound as if you didn't?
hahaha! trying to suck up and make amends?
garam_kuta- Posts : 3768
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Re: looks like UCLA killer was a desi
Hellsangel wrote:I thought you were OK with legal purchase of handguns, Il Professore and only wanted background checks etc. Are you now revealing your true agenda? Apparently an intellectual property right dispute was tied to the shooting. More Walter White?MaxEntropy_Man wrote:But a confirmed assassin enabled by the NRA. Oh I'm surprised gownder mama hasn't yet discovered that he is an IIT alum.
yes i am, albeit reluctantly supportive of legal handgun purchases. it is after all granted by the constitution. a constitutional amendment is a non-starter as a practical matter. however, criminal background checks are not enough. i am for investigating the purchaser's mental health history prior to a purchase. if current law doesn't allow that, then i am for legislation that will lead to this becoming the norm in the US.
MaxEntropy_Man- Posts : 14702
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Re: looks like UCLA killer was a desi
prof klug and his family are not the only victims here. his graduate students, the future students who could have trained under him, the millions and millions of people who could have benefited from his research are also sarkar and the NRA's victims. this is a crime against humanity.
MaxEntropy_Man- Posts : 14702
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Re: looks like UCLA killer was a desi
Yes. Go ahead and sue the NRA, Il Professore.MaxEntropy_Man wrote:prof klug and his family are not the only victims here. his graduate students, the future students who could have trained under him, the millions and millions of people who could have benefited from his research are also sarkar and the NRA's victims. this is a crime against humanity.
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