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Post by Guest Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:33 am

And in days of yore, O Brahmana, two thousand animals used to be killed every day in the kitchen of king Rantideva; and in the same manner two thousand cows were killed every day; and, O best of regenerate beings, king Rantideva acquired unrivalled reputation by distributing food with meat every day. For the performance of the fourmonthly rites animals ought to be sacrificed daily.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03207.htm

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In the Mahabharata there is a mention of a king named Rantideva who achieved great fame by distributing foodgrains and beef to Brahmins.

http://www.thehindu.com/2001/08/14/stories/13140833.htm

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Thu Aug 11, 2016 6:45 pm

Give the exact verse and chapter numbers in the Vyasa's Mahabharata on beef eating, instead of citing the sections from "sacred-texts" hodge-podge.
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Seva Lamberdar wrote:Give the exact verse and chapter numbers in the Vyasa's Mahabharata on beef eating, instead of citing the sections from "sacred-texts" hodge-podge.

do some work yourself. search for 'rantidev mahabharata' on google.

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:37 am

Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:Give the exact verse and chapter numbers in the Vyasa's Mahabharata on beef eating, instead of citing the sections from "sacred-texts" hodge-podge.

do some work yourself. search for 'rantidev mahabharata' on google.
In the original Mahabharata and other Mahabharata related texts there is no mention of Rantidev.
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Post by Guest Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:40 am

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:Give the exact verse and chapter numbers in the Vyasa's Mahabharata on beef eating, instead of citing the sections from "sacred-texts" hodge-podge.

do some work yourself. search for 'rantidev mahabharata' on google.
In the original Mahabharata and other Mahabharata related texts there is no mention of Rantidev.

The renowned Indian historian D.N. Jha disagrees with you. Jha writes in an article published in the Hindu newspaper:

In the Mahabharata there is a mention of a king named Rantideva who achieved great fame by distributing foodgrains and beef to Brahmins.

http://www.thehindu.com/2001/08/14/stories/13140833.htm

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:47 am

Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:Give the exact verse and chapter numbers in the Vyasa's Mahabharata on beef eating, instead of citing the sections from "sacred-texts" hodge-podge.

do some work yourself. search for 'rantidev mahabharata' on google.
In the original Mahabharata and other Mahabharata related texts there is no mention of Rantidev.

The renowned Indian historian D.N. Jha disagrees with you. Jha writes in an article published in the Hindu newspaper:

In the Mahabharata there is a mention of a king named Rantideva who achieved great fame by distributing foodgrains and beef to Brahmins.

http://www.thehindu.com/2001/08/14/stories/13140833.htm
Why doesn't Jha or you write (cite) the actual verse and chapter number in the original (Vyasa's) Mahabharata on "Rantidev" distributing beef to brahmins?
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Post by garam_kuta Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:18 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:Give the exact verse and chapter numbers in the Vyasa's Mahabharata on beef eating, instead of citing the sections from "sacred-texts" hodge-podge.

do some work yourself. search for 'rantidev mahabharata' on google.
In the original Mahabharata and other Mahabharata related texts there is no mention of Rantidev.

The renowned Indian historian D.N. Jha disagrees with you. Jha writes in an article published in the Hindu newspaper:

In the Mahabharata there is a mention of a king named Rantideva who achieved great fame by distributing foodgrains and beef to Brahmins.

http://www.thehindu.com/2001/08/14/stories/13140833.htm
Why doesn't Jha or you write (cite) the actual verse and chapter number in the original (Vyasa's) Mahabharata on "Rantidev" distributing beef to brahmins?

saar...please, no logic, no reasoning, no evidence/proof and such.. when the rifraff-ri speaks, you listen Razz

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Post by Guest Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:30 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:Give the exact verse and chapter numbers in the Vyasa's Mahabharata on beef eating, instead of citing the sections from "sacred-texts" hodge-podge.

do some work yourself. search for 'rantidev mahabharata' on google.
In the original Mahabharata and other Mahabharata related texts there is no mention of Rantidev.

The renowned Indian historian D.N. Jha disagrees with you. Jha writes in an article published in the Hindu newspaper:

In the Mahabharata there is a mention of a king named Rantideva who achieved great fame by distributing foodgrains and beef to Brahmins.

http://www.thehindu.com/2001/08/14/stories/13140833.htm
Why doesn't Jha or you write (cite) the actual verse and chapter number in the original (Vyasa's) Mahabharata on "Rantidev" distributing beef to brahmins?

Mahabharata

Verses from the Mahabharata also indicates that slaughtering cows was not a big sin. Actually King Rantideva is seen being praised for it.

“And in days of yore, O Brahmana, two thousand animals used to be killed every day in the kitchen of king Rantideva; and in the same manner two thousand cows were killed every day; and, O best of regenerate beings, king Rantideva acquired unrivalled reputation by distributing food with meat every day. For the performance of the fourmonthly rites animals ought to be sacrificed daily. ‘The sacred fire is fond of animal food,’ this saying has come down to us. And at sacrifices animals are invariably killed by regenerate Brahmanas, and these animals being purged of sin, by incantation of hymns, go to heaven. If, O Brahmana, the sacred fire had not been so fond of animal food in ancient times, it could never have become the food of any one. And in this matter of animal food, this rule has been laid down by Munis :– Whoever partakes of animal food after having first offered it duly and respectfully to the gods and the manes, is not polluted by the act.” [Mahabharata Vana Parva 207]

Meat of cow had a superior status when offered during Sraddha ceremony performed to pay homage to ancestors. See what Bhishma is saying here.

"With fishes offered at Sraddhas, the Pitris remain gratified for a period of two months. With mutton they remain gratified for three months and with the flesh of the hare for four. With the flesh of the goat, O king, they remain gratified for five months, with bacon for six months, and with the flesh of birds for seven. With venison obtained from those deer that are called Prishata, they remain gratified for eight months, and with that obtained from the Ruru for nine months, and with the meat of the Gavaya for ten months. With the meat of the buffalo their gratification lasts for eleven months. With beef presented at the Sraddha, their gratification, it is said, lasts for a full year. "[Mahabharata Anusasana Parva 88]



http://nirmukta.com/2015/05/29/ancient-indian-beef-charitha/

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Sat Aug 13, 2016 8:22 am

Unless you can cite the exact verse number and chapter number from the original Ramayana (by Valmiki) and the original Mahabharata (by Vyasa) on meat / beef eating, you are wasting your time by making these posts based on secondary sources.
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Post by Guest Sat Aug 13, 2016 8:36 am

Seva Lamberdar wrote:Unless you can cite the exact verse number and chapter number from the original Ramayana (by Valmiki) and the original Mahabharata (by Vyasa) on meat / beef eating, you are wasting your time by making these posts based on secondary sources.

Mahabharata

Verses from the Mahabharata also indicates that slaughtering cows was not a big sin. Actually King Rantideva is seen being praised for it.

“And in days of yore, O Brahmana, two thousand animals used to be killed every day in the kitchen of king Rantideva; and in the same manner two thousand cows were killed every day; and, O best of regenerate beings, king Rantideva acquired unrivalled reputation by distributing food with meat every day. For the performance of the fourmonthly rites animals ought to be sacrificed daily. ‘The sacred fire is fond of animal food,’ this saying has come down to us. And at sacrifices animals are invariably killed by regenerate Brahmanas, and these animals being purged of sin, by incantation of hymns, go to heaven. If, O Brahmana, the sacred fire had not been so fond of animal food in ancient times, it could never have become the food of any one. And in this matter of animal food, this rule has been laid down by Munis :– Whoever partakes of animal food after having first offered it duly and respectfully to the gods and the manes, is not polluted by the act.” [Mahabharata Vana Parva 207]

Meat of cow had a superior status when offered during Sraddha ceremony performed to pay homage to ancestors. See what Bhishma is saying here.

"With fishes offered at Sraddhas, the Pitris remain gratified for a period of two months. With mutton they remain gratified for three months and with the flesh of the hare for four. With the flesh of the goat, O king, they remain gratified for five months, with bacon for six months, and with the flesh of birds for seven. With venison obtained from those deer that are called Prishata, they remain gratified for eight months, and with that obtained from the Ruru for nine months, and with the meat of the Gavaya for ten months. With the meat of the buffalo their gratification lasts for eleven months. With beef presented at the Sraddha, their gratification, it is said, lasts for a full year. "[Mahabharata Anusasana Parva 88]

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