Vestiges of sanity

by MaxEntropy_Man Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:35 pm

last vestiges of GOP sanity -- McCain and Graham.

by Hellsangel Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:38 pm

So you agree with Graham?

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/03/02/john-mccain-lindsey-graham-town-hall-trump-immigration.cnn

Incidentally I had the pleasure of meeting Graham during the Primaries in New Hampshire.

by MaxEntropy_Man Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:43 pm

Graham also said that the young man's mother shouldn't have been deported. I have no problems deporting violent criminals who happen to be undocumented while simultaneously ensuring robust protections for those who are otherwise law abiding people. I agree with the notion that there ought to be a path to legalization which should involve getting in line and waiting like other legal immigrants.

by pravalika nanda Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:45 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Graham also said that the young man's mother shouldn't have been deported. I have no problems deporting violent criminals who happen to be undocumented while simultaneously ensuring robust protections for those who are otherwise law abiding people. I agree with the notion that there ought to be a path to legalization which should involve getting in line and waiting like other legal immigrants.

max, without googling, how many illegal immigrants did obama deport?

by Hellsangel Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:46 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Graham also said that the young man's mother shouldn't have been deported. I have no problems deporting violent criminals who happen to be undocumented while simultaneously ensuring robust protections for those who are otherwise law abiding people. I agree with the notion that there ought to be a path to legalization which should involve getting in line and waiting like other legal immigrants.

Yeah. Break the law and get rewarded for it while making a mockery of the legal immigrants who jumped through hoops.

by MaxEntropy_Man Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:47 pm

pravalika nanda wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Graham also said that the young man's mother shouldn't have been deported. I have no problems deporting violent criminals who happen to be undocumented while simultaneously ensuring robust protections for those who are otherwise law abiding people. I agree with the notion that there ought to be a path to legalization which should involve getting in line and waiting like other legal immigrants.
max, without googling, how many illegal immigrants did obama deport?

More than Bush probably. But he also came up with DACA.

by pravalika nanda Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:52 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Graham also said that the young man's mother shouldn't have been deported. I have no problems deporting violent criminals who happen to be undocumented while simultaneously ensuring robust protections for those who are otherwise law abiding people. I agree with the notion that there ought to be a path to legalization which should involve getting in line and waiting like other legal immigrants.
max, without googling, how many illegal immigrants did obama deport?

More than Bush probably. But he also came up with DACA.

greater than 2.5mil people. i can't remember where i came across that number.

here's an old econ article on it

http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21595892-barack-obama-has-presided-over-one-largest-peacetime-outflows-people-americas

here's a old reuters article on it:

http://blogs.reuters.com/data-dive/2015/02/25/tracking-obamas-deportation-numbers/

so the current numbers would be greater than whateevr is quoted in those artciles.
if i come across current stuff i'll put it up

i can't really say i feel too badly about it. like if someone cheated on the exam and passed would it be okay?

by Idéfix Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:27 pm

They both talk a good game, but don't play it. They vote with Il Douche all the time. The only times they vote against him are show votes, when they know Il Douche will win without their vote.

by Idéfix Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:30 pm

The government's deportation numbers include those caught trying to enter the country illegally and stopped at the border. I feel good about Obama's deportations, because he prioritized deporting violent criminals, and anyone who is arrested and has been here less than two months.

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