Unhinged again

FluteHolder wrote:Donot assume all federal judges are just and clean. There are quite a no of judges who are unfit for that position and can/might sign wiretap if it benefits to them. See what kind of judges we have..http://dirtyrottenjudges.com/

Propagandhi711 wrote:nothing far fetched but whats so far fetched about the orangutan being blackmailed by putin with pissing videos?

also in typical fashion, he doesnt produce a shred of evidence and calls everyone else purveyors of fake news. there's gotta be a point where even trumptards stand back and say something doesnt add up with head monkey here.

However, earlier evidence of NSA spying on American citizens calls into question the Obama spokesmen’s protestations, even if technically correct.

WND reported in 2013 on congressional hearings where then-Director of National Intelligence James Clapper apologized for lying to Congress over his agency’s surveillance of American citizens.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Now he wants congress to investigate. It's always shoot first and ask questions later with this nutbag.

confuzzled dude wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Now he wants congress to investigate. It's always shoot first and ask questions later with this nutbag.

If you listen to Fox news you think that jury already found Obama guilty on wiretapping, there are no ifs and buts in their arguments

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Now he wants congress to investigate. It's always shoot first and ask questions later with this nutbag.

If you listen to Fox news you think that jury already found Obama guilty on wiretapping, there are no ifs and buts in their arguments

Fox news effect can be neutralized by watching / listening to the CNN.

Idéfix wrote:We need an independent investigation. If Trump and his supporters are so sure of the truth of what he says, let us have an independent counsel. Let them look into all aspects of this.

a. Were Trump campaign phones tapped?

If yes, qho authorized it and why? If no, Trump must apologize to Obama.

b. If it was authorized by a FISA court, then Obama did nothing wrong, and the original reason why the court granted the warrant should be publicized. Any actions by the Trump campaign that aroused FBI suspicions should be disclosed. If it was an unauthorized wiretap, whoever is guilty must be punished, even if it is Obama.

c. If it was a legally authorized wiretap, the findings must be publicized. Did the Trump campaign collude with foreign actors? Were any laws broken? What did Trump know and when? All these questions must be answered. Anyone who broke the law must be prosecuted.

d. If there was a legal FISA court warrant, did Obama know about it? If he knew about it, why did he or his people not talk about it before the election? Even after Comey sent the deliberately vague letter that hurt Clinton? Did he remain silent in the interest of national security, even if it meant taking a loss to his party?

Let us have all this investigated independently. My hunch is that we will find that Obama followed the laws and put country above party. Trump, OTOH, will come out as a traitor from this.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:nothing far fetched but whats so far fetched about the orangutan being blackmailed by putin with pissing videos?

also in typical fashion, he doesnt produce a shred of evidence and calls everyone else purveyors of fake news. there's gotta be a point where even trumptards stand back and say something doesnt add up with head monkey here.

Irony is that majority of republicans had no qualms rather vehement supporters of patriot act & NSA surveillance. Their famous line used to "Let them search, I have nothing to hide". I guess their convictions took u-turn now that the shoe is on the other foot.

However, earlier evidence of NSA spying on American citizens calls into question the Obama spokesmen’s protestations, even if technically correct.

WND reported in 2013 on congressional hearings where then-Director of National Intelligence James Clapper apologized for lying to Congress over his agency’s surveillance of American citizens.

http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/trump-sick-obama-had-my-phones-tapped-in-trump-tower/?cat_orig=politics