FlimFlam, what do you think about this?

by MulaiAzhagi Fri May 11, 2012 4:44 pm

Here, like most Indian public figures mentioning Christianity, Guha buys into the legend that Saint Thomas came to Kerala in 52 CE, a belief even the Pope has rejected.

True enough that India survived thanks to a decentral model, but that model was hardly Gandhi’s invention: it followed ancient Hindu practice. Much of what Ramachada Guha credits the unknown entity India with, accrues to Hinduism. Thus, the asylum given to the Syrian Christians without any questions asked would not have occurred under the Indian Muslims.

http://koenraadelst.blogspot.com/2012/04/ramachandra-guha-in-leuven-belgium.html

by Jeremiah Mburuburu Fri May 11, 2012 5:56 pm

MulaiAzhagi wrote:Here, like most Indian public figures mentioning Christianity, Guha buys into the legend that Saint Thomas came to Kerala in 52 CE, a belief even the Pope has rejected.

the pope apparently fears that the authority of the catholic church will be undermined by beliefs that the church does not endorse, as a pope did when he had galileo galilei tried by inquisition for the heresy of espousing heliocentrism. as one can see, the pope is not the final arbiter of fact vs. fiction.

MulaiAzhagi wrote:True enough that India survived thanks to a decentral model, but that model was hardly Gandhi’s invention: it followed ancient Hindu practice. Much of what Ramachada Guha credits the unknown entity India with, accrues to Hinduism. Thus, the asylum given to the Syrian Christians without any questions asked would not have occurred under the Indian Muslims.

[url=http://koenraadelst.blogspot.com/2012/04/ramachandra-guha-in-leuven-belgium.html]http://koenraadelst.blogspot.com/2012/04/ramachandra-guha-in-leuven-belgium.html[/url]

"the asylum?" that's nonsensical. nearly all syrian christians are dravidians, and kerala has been their native land for as long as anyone can remember. they didn't seek asylum, and no one needed to give them any. konrad elst appears to be ignorant. he too has his reasons for feigning ignorance.

by MulaiAzhagi Mon May 14, 2012 10:11 pm

An organised Christian presence in India dates to the arrival of East Syrian settlers and missionaries from Persia, members of the Church of the East or Nestorian Church, in around the 3rd century.[19] Saint Thomas Christians trace the further growth of their community to the arrival of the Nestorian Thomas of Cana from the Middle East, which is said to have occurred sometime between the 4th and 8th century. The subgroup of the Saint Thomas Christians known as the Southists trace their lineage to Thomas of Cana, while the group known as the Northists claim descent from Thomas the Apostle's indigenous and Jewish converts.[18][20]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Thomas_Christians

===> I guess Koenraad Elst was referring to the East Syrian settlers not their dravidian descendants.

by Propagandhi711 Tue May 15, 2012 9:50 am

Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:
MulaiAzhagi wrote:Here, like most Indian public figures mentioning Christianity, Guha buys into the legend that Saint Thomas came to Kerala in 52 CE, a belief even the Pope has rejected.
the pope apparently fears that the authority of the catholic church will be undermined by beliefs that the church does not endorse, as a pope did when he had galileo galilei tried by inquisition for the heresy of espousing heliocentrism. as one can see, the pope is not the final arbiter of fact vs. fiction.

MulaiAzhagi wrote:True enough that India survived thanks to a decentral model, but that model was hardly Gandhi’s invention: it followed ancient Hindu practice. Much of what Ramachada Guha credits the unknown entity India with, accrues to Hinduism. Thus, the asylum given to the Syrian Christians without any questions asked would not have occurred under the Indian Muslims.

[url=http://koenraadelst.blogspot.com/2012/04/ramachandra-guha-in-leuven-belgium.html]http://koenraadelst.blogspot.com/2012/04/ramachandra-guha-in-leuven-belgium.html[/url]
"the asylum?" that's nonsensical. nearly all syrian christians are dravidians, and kerala has been their native land for as long as anyone can remember. they didn't seek asylum, and no one needed to give them any. konrad elst appears to be ignorant. he too has his reasons for feigning ignorance.

douchebag granny, it's you that's feigning ignorance. the nutjob koenraadelst was saying that had muslims been in control and majority when syrian christians arrived at kerala shores in 52AD or 1963 or after vietnam war or whenever the fuck they did, they woulda been burnt alive and not allowed to flourish. you are deflecting the point by saying syrian christians are dravidians now. you too have your reasons for feigning ignorance and deflecting.

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