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Post by swapna Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:45 am

an instance of shocking, wholesale plagiarism is documented in repec, the frequently-cited, international database and possibly archive of scholarly papers in economics.

https://plagiarism.repec.org/bera.html

the offending paper, by one soumitra bera, is a "complete replica" of a nine-page paper published earlier by another author.

in the section called "response of offender," bera is first childish and irresponsible, then groveling for mercy.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:36 pm

swapna wrote:an instance of shocking, wholesale plagiarism is documented in repec, the frequently-cited, international database and possibly archive of scholarly papers in economics.

https://plagiarism.repec.org/bera.html

the offending paper, by one soumitra bera, is a "complete replica" of a nine-page paper published earlier by another author.

in the section called "response of offender," bera is first childish and irresponsible, then groveling for mercy.

Half of Indian PhDs (if not more) are plagiarised. many go to the extent of translating chinese and other foreign language Phds in to their own original.

Nothing surprising....

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Post by swapna Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:47 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
swapna wrote:an instance of shocking, wholesale plagiarism is documented in repec, the frequently-cited, international database and possibly archive of scholarly papers in economics.

https://plagiarism.repec.org/bera.html

the offending paper, by one soumitra bera, is a "complete replica" of a nine-page paper published earlier by another author.

in the section called "response of offender," bera is first childish and irresponsible, then groveling for mercy.

Half of Indian PhDs (if not more) are plagiarised. many go to the extent of translating chinese and other foreign language Phds in to their own original.

Nothing surprising....
interesting information.

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:32 pm

swapna wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
swapna wrote:an instance of shocking, wholesale plagiarism is documented in repec, the frequently-cited, international database and possibly archive of scholarly papers in economics.

https://plagiarism.repec.org/bera.html

the offending paper, by one soumitra bera, is a "complete replica" of a nine-page paper published earlier by another author.

in the section called "response of offender," bera is first childish and irresponsible, then groveling for mercy.

Half of Indian PhDs (if not more) are plagiarised. many go to the extent of translating chinese and other foreign language Phds in to their own original.

Nothing surprising....
interesting information.
Considering about half the students might be admitted to higher education programs (e.g. Ph.D.) on the basis of caste (caste certificate etc.) rather than merit (mark sheet), why is the plagiarisation in the theses and research an issue and a surprise?
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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:46 pm

Seva that's preposterous. Are you saying that candidates who avail of reservation are more prone to plagiarism and cheating?
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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:32 pm

Bera's English is delightful. Similar to Okhil Chandra Sen's.
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Post by swapna Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:38 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Bera's English is delightful. Similar to Okhil Chandra Sen's.
hahaha @"delightful" and @"okhil."

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:44 pm

In case you haven't heard of the good Mr.Sen:

http://m.timesofindia.com/city/lucknow/A-man-of-letters/articleshow/31399763.cms
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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:01 am



......He currently serves as the Head of the Scientific Advisory Council to the Prime Minister of India. Rao has honorary doctorates from 60 universities from around the world. He has authored around 1,500 research papers and 45 scientific books..

If someone like CNR Rao - who is STILL the Scientific Advisor for the PM - plagiarized papers, what can one say about research standards in India.

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:26 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Seva that's preposterous.  Are you saying that candidates who avail of reservation are more prone to plagiarism and cheating?
Max, you should be answering this question yourself as a professor. Why is it that the universities in the U.S., especially with a great reputation in research work and publications, insist on admitting students to higher (even the lower) degrees on the basis of test scores and personal achievements instead of their social and other kinds of statuses (viz. caste, religion etc.)?
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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:04 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Seva that's preposterous.  Are you saying that candidates who avail of reservation are more prone to plagiarism and cheating?
Max, you should be answering this question yourself as a professor. Why is it that the universities in the U.S., especially with a great reputation in research work and publications, insist on admitting students to higher (even the lower) degrees on the basis of test scores and personal achievements instead of their social and other kinds of statuses (viz. caste, religion etc.)?

since you expressed the opinion, doesn't it behoove you to answer the question i asked? since you mentioned the US, have you not heard of affirmative action policies (which are effectively the same the thing as reservations)? i may have my reservations (pun not intended) about them, but that's a separate matter altogether. the question here is whether or not you believe affirmative action (or reservation) candidates are more prone to misconduct. i certainly don't believe that. but it seems you do. please explain yourself.
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Post by Hellsangel Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:08 pm

On that note. Do Asian students cheat?
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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:10 pm

Hellsangel wrote:On that note. Do Asian students cheat?

i'll read later (long article), but what's the TLDR version?
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Post by Seva Lamberdar Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:48 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Seva that's preposterous.  Are you saying that candidates who avail of reservation are more prone to plagiarism and cheating?
Max, you should be answering this question yourself as a professor. Why is it that the universities in the U.S., especially with a great reputation in research work and publications, insist on admitting students to higher (even the lower) degrees on the basis of test scores and personal achievements instead of their social and other kinds of statuses (viz. caste, religion etc.)?

since you expressed the opinion, doesn't it behoove you to answer the question i asked? since you mentioned the US, have you not heard of affirmative action policies (which are effectively the same the thing as reservations)? i may have my reservations (pun not intended) about them, but that's a separate matter altogether. the question here is whether or not you believe affirmative action (or reservation) candidates are more prone to misconduct. i certainly don't believe that. but it seems you do. please explain yourself.
Don't you think the students / people capable of doing good research work by themselves, as also indicated by their ability to be admitted to a college because of their grades / achievements rather than due mainly to their caste etc. or affirmative action, would be less likely to plagiarize and steal / copy others' work as their own?
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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:18 pm

Hellsangel wrote:On that note. Do Asian students cheat?

All students cheat.. but the Asians cheat more due to social pressure. When someone declines to show his homework or tests, the "gang of friends" will outcaste him. That fear forces even the morally strong Asian kids to help in cheating.

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:45 am

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Seva that's preposterous.  Are you saying that candidates who avail of reservation are more prone to plagiarism and cheating?
Max, you should be answering this question yourself as a professor. Why is it that the universities in the U.S., especially with a great reputation in research work and publications, insist on admitting students to higher (even the lower) degrees on the basis of test scores and personal achievements instead of their social and other kinds of statuses (viz. caste, religion etc.)?

since you expressed the opinion, doesn't it behoove you to answer the question i asked? since you mentioned the US, have you not heard of affirmative action policies (which are effectively the same the thing as reservations)? i may have my reservations (pun not intended) about them, but that's a separate matter altogether. the question here is whether or not you believe affirmative action (or reservation) candidates are more prone to misconduct. i certainly don't believe that. but it seems you do. please explain yourself.
Don't you think the students / people capable of doing good research work by themselves, as also indicated by their ability to be admitted to a college because of their grades / achievements rather than due mainly to their caste etc. or affirmative action, would be less likely to plagiarize and steal / copy others' work as their own?
Considering also the hugely fraudulent criterion officially in use currently in admitting students to colleges and universities and later hiring and promoting people at work on the basis of caste / religion, instead of merit (marks) or even according to the economic necessity (poverty), the issue of randomly plagiarizing others' work or cheating during exams by people / individuals seems insignificant, 
http://creative.sulekha.com/behind-the-moral-indignation-in-the-recent-vyapam-controversy_624225_blog
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