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Post by Seva Lamberdar Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:04 am

Both Canada and India follow the parliamentary system of Govt.  It is thus expected that the Govts. and Govt. leaders (prime ministers) appointed in Canada and India undergo similar electoral process during the parliamentary elections. But is that really the case currently?
 
Next Monday (Oct. 21, 2019) the Canadians will vote in their parliamentary elections for Lower House of Parliament to elect a new Govt. headed by a prime minister.   Right from the beginning, when the parliamentary elections were announced several weeks ago, people in Canada knew as to who (based on the pre-election choice for various party representatives / leaders: Justin Trudeau in Liberal Party, Andrew Scheer in Conservative Party, Gurmeet Singh in New Democratic Party, Elizabeth May in Green Party, ..) might become their next prime minister and head the new Federal Govt., depending on which party wins the most parliamentary seats in  elections (having most number of MPs or members of parliament in the Lower House) and also gets the backing of parliamentary majority after elections.

Moreover, while going into the elections during the past month and a half, there were several TV debates involving above party representatives vying for the post of new prime minister (Govt. leader), which gave voters a chance to take a good look at potential Govt. leaders with respect to their personal qualifications and capabilities and the manner in which they were able to articulate their parties' policies and programs for the nation before having the real opportunity to implement those policies and programs in the capacity of new prime minister (Govt. leader) while heading next Govt. (handpicked as a team of ministers by the new prime minister after the elections).

Needless to say, the Canadian voters are now in a good position to vote for the prime ministerial and parliamentary candidates who belong to the  party which has policies and programs that appeal to them the most and which, according to them, has nominated beforehand the most effective and capable prime ministerial candidate or potential Govt. leader (Trudeau, or Scheer, or Singh, or May,..) to implement those policies and programs later.  Naturally, this will be a very effective electoral process  for appointing the new Govt. and the next Govt. leader (prime minister) based on highest transparency and accountability.

On the other hand, the Indian voters (unlike voters in Canada) currently go to parliamentary polls to cast votes often without having any clue about their next prime minister (Govt. leader) and without even voting for the next prime minister as a member of parliament (MP) in Lok Sabha (the Lower House of Parliament) because the political parties / alliances in India usually neither declare the names of their prime ministerial candidates (potential Govt. leaders) beforehand  (before the elections) nor require them to first run for a seat as MP (member of parliament) in Lok Sabha (the Lower House of Parliament), which obviously also denies Indian voters the opportunity to see, judge and compare beforehand various parties' prime ministerial candidates with respect to their qualifications and capabilities and the ability to effectively implement their parties' policies and programs later as prime minister.
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Post by Seva Lamberdar Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:23 am

The Canadian election results (Oct. 22, 2019)  
                                                   
The results from parliamentary elections in Canada are now out (Oct. 22, 2019) for 338 seats in the Lower House of Parliament (The House of Commons, or Lok Sabha as called in India), requiring 170 seats in parliament for majority Govt.

The leading vote-getting parties with most seats include the Liberal Party winning 157 parliamentary seats under Justin Trudeau as its prime ministerial candidate (Trudeau also won his seat as MP in parliament from Papineau parliamentary riding) and the Conservative Party winning 121 parliamentary seats under Andrew Scheer as its prime ministerial candidate (Scheer also won his seat as MP in parliament from Regina parliamentary riding), followed by other parties winning / sharing the remaining 60 parliamentary seats.

Since Trudeau or Scheer failed to win the absolute majority (170 seats) in Parliament, it will be a minority Govt. (in coalition with other parties) led most likely by Mr. Trudeau as prime minister (Govt. Leader) and Mr. Scheer as the leader of Official Opposition in parliament.

Really a very transparent and quick electoral process in parliamentary elections with full knowledge and participation from voters directly in the choice of prime minister (Trudeau) to head the next Govt. in Canada.
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Post by Seva Lamberdar Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:35 am

"U cannot blame the cm , the government is responsible irrespective of whoever is in power, they need to work for the betterment of the people." (A FB comment)

My response:

If you can't blame the CM who is at the helm of Govt. and thus Govt's face to public, then who do you blame and hold responsible for any debacle in public policy?

This habit of Indians to not blaming (viz. hold accountable and responsible) the Govt. leaders (CM or PM) for state or country's problems, while only instead blowing steam that there are problems and Govt. is not doing anything (thus appearing to not criticize and hold responsible anyone in particular), is probably due to the fact that Indians cast vote in state or parliamentary elections without any prior clue or information from political parties about the potential Govt. leaders (i.e. the names are not declared before the elections for chief ministerial or prime ministerial candidates contesting elections from various political parties).

If people in India were to vote knowing beforehand as to who might become their CM or PM after the election if this (or that) party won most seats, then people would vote differently and also act in another way after the election if the next Govt. leader (new CM or PM leading the Govt.) did not live up to their expectations and keep the promises made before elections.
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Post by Seva Lamberdar Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:58 pm

Maharashtra state / assembly election mandate of Oct. 24, 2019 (just a few days after the Canadian election on Oct. 21, 2019) in the 288 seat house was as follows (parties with most seats),
BJP = 105 seats; Shiv Sena = 56 seats; Congress = 44 seats; NCP (National Congress Party) = 54

Since no single party received the absolute majority (more than the required 144 seats in the House), there is no new Govt. (including the new Govt. leader or chief minister) so far (as of Nov. 14, 2019). One of the main reasons for this unusual confusion and delay in getting the new Govt. after elections is probably because of the parties not declaring the names of their chief ministerial candidates (potential govt. leaders) before the elections.

Compare the similar results in the Canadian parliamentary elections where no single party won the required absolute majority of seats, but the Liberal Party (with the officially declared prime ministerial candidate Mr. Justin Trudeau) was able to form the Govt. immediately under Mr. Trudeau because of winning more seats in the Parliament than any other party including the Conservative Party which received more number of total votes (but less seats in Parliament) than the Liberal Party.
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Post by Seva Lamberdar Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:29 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:Maharashtra state / assembly election mandate of Oct. 24, 2019 (just a few days after the Canadian election on Oct. 21, 2019) in the 288 seat house was as follows (parties with most seats),
BJP = 105 seats; Shiv Sena = 56 seats; Congress = 44 seats; NCP (National Congress Party) = 54

Since no single party received the absolute majority (more than the required 144 seats in the House), there is no new Govt. (including the new Govt. leader or chief minister) so far (as of Nov. 14, 2019). One of the main reasons for this unusual confusion and delay in getting the new Govt. after elections is probably because of the parties not declaring the names of their chief ministerial candidates (potential govt. leaders) before the elections.

Compare the similar results in the Canadian parliamentary elections where no single party won the required absolute majority of seats, but the Liberal Party (with the officially declared prime ministerial candidate Mr. Justin Trudeau) was able to form the Govt. immediately under Mr. Trudeau because of winning more seats in the Parliament than any other party including the Conservative Party which received more number of total votes (but less seats in Parliament) than the Liberal Party.

If the other parties (Shiv Sena, Congress and NCP) had declared the names of their chief ministerial candidates beforehand then, following the BJP chief ministerial candidate's decision to not form the Govt., they would be negotiating directly among themselves now to set up the alliance for new Govt. quickly without waiting for and getting remote instructions from non-players (non-participants in elections).

Just look at the election results in Canada recently with similar outcome of no party winning the absolute majority. The entire next step for new Govt. involved only Mr. Trudeau, Mr. Scheer and Mr. Singh (the prime ministerial candidates from Liberal Party, Conservative Party and New Democratic Party, respectively) and the nation had the final decision on new prime minister (Mr. Trudeau) in just 3 days.

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