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Post by Kris Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:05 pm

..pretty much anymore. I used to read quite voraciously. Some of the work was good, some so-so and the authors were all over the spectrum-- Arthur Hailey, Chase, Harold Robbins, Irving Wallace, Erle Stanley Gardner, some Forsythe and then poof, sometime in mid 20's lost interest in fiction. Can't put my finger on it. Don't know if this was due to less bandwidth, increasing interest in non-fiction or maybe something banal like TV watching. Wonder if this has happened to others?

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:17 pm

Kris wrote:..pretty much anymore. I used to read quite voraciously. Some of the work was good, some so-so and the authors were all over the spectrum-- Arthur Hailey, Chase, Harold Robbins, Irving Wallace, Erle Stanley Gardner, some Forsythe and then poof, sometime in mid 20's lost interest in fiction. Can't put my finger on it. Don't know if this was due to less bandwidth, increasing interest in non-fiction or maybe something banal like TV watching. Wonder if this has happened to others?

hasn't happened to me as yet. i think the trick is to keep reading books from different genres to avoid getting into some kind of a rut and to maintain interest. right now, i am reading books on the u.s. mafia, and while doing so i went back and re-read The Godfather. Did you ever do any reading on the u.s. mafia, particularly the five families of NY? I find some of these guys really fascinating, particularly Frank Costello who was the top mafia boss in the US at one time but who also had a vulnerable side (visiting a psychiatrist for therapy sessions) which i found endearing. and also the fact that most of the people he preferred socializing with were respectable people not involved in crime in any way.

Another interesting character is Myer Lansky who was, besides being a mobster, a brilliant mathematician which helped him fix the odds for any gambling racket and who also was given the responsibility of ensuring how much percentage profit everyone involved in the racket would get commensurate to their contribution. It is believed that Lansky was studying higher mathematics through a private tutor out of his own interest while being a mobster--something that reminded me of Prof Moriarty of Sherlock Holmes fame. And then there was Carlo Gambino who always made the right move at the right time, and Lucky Luciano who can be considered the founding father of organized crime in the U.S..

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Post by Kris Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:27 pm

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Kris wrote:..pretty much anymore. I used to read quite voraciously. Some of the work was good, some so-so and the authors were all over the spectrum-- Arthur Hailey, Chase, Harold Robbins, Irving Wallace, Erle Stanley Gardner, some Forsythe and then poof, sometime in mid 20's lost interest in fiction. Can't put my finger on it. Don't know if this was due to less bandwidth, increasing interest in non-fiction or maybe something banal like TV watching. Wonder if this has happened to others?

hasn't happened to me as yet. i think the trick is to keep reading books from different genres to avoid getting into some kind of a rut and to maintain interest. right now, i am reading books on the u.s. mafia, and while doing so i went back and re-read The Godfather. Did you ever do any reading on the u.s. mafia, particularly the five families of NY? I find some of these guys really fascinating, particularly Frank Costello who was the top mafia boss in the US at one time but who also had a vulnerable side (visiting a psychiatrist for therapy sessions) which i found endearing. and also the fact that most of the people he preferred socializing with were respectable people not involved in crime in any way.

Another interesting character is Myer Lansky who was, besides being a mobster, a brilliant mathematician which helped him fix the odds for any gambling racket and who also was given the responsibility of ensuring how much percentage profit everyone involved in the racket would get commensurate to their contribution. It is believed that Lansky was studying higher mathematics through a private tutor out of his own interest while being a mobster--something that reminded me of Prof Moriarty of Sherlock Holmes fame. And then there was Carlo Gambino who always made the right move at the right time, and Lucky Luciano who can be considered the founding father of organized crime in the U.S..

>>>>The Sopranos had the main character having sessions with a therapist. Yeah, I went through a phase where I read stuff on the mob as well and its inner workings. I am hoping I will get the urge back to read fiction. I read something by Grisham some time ago, but there is a bunch of unread stuff on my bookshelf.

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Post by Idéfix Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:37 pm

I was a voracious reader of fiction in my teens and early twenties. I read everything from pulp fiction to the classics and always had a long list of fiction to read. My appetite for it has disappeared since. I have not read the latest works of writers I enjoyed reading. I find nonfiction a lot more engaging these days. Now I read perhaps one work of fiction, if that, a year.
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Post by truthbetold Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:53 pm

Kris,
One more name ken follet ( eye of the needle). I lost my apetite for fiction during my college. I could not finish a tom clancy novel. In my case life kept me busy. I read some te chnical reports that could kill you. I got back to reading when i started working with my children's social studies projects. American history, religion and india are my su jects of interest.
my e perience taught me real life is more twisted than any fictional novel.

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Post by Idéfix Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:42 pm

I remember reading Ken Follett's Pillars of the Earth. Excellent book about the Middle Ages in England and Gothic cathedrals.
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Post by Kris Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:42 am

truthbetold wrote:Kris,
One more name ken follet ( eye of the needle). I lost my apetite for fiction during my college. I could not finish a tom clancy novel. In my case life kept me busy. I read some te chnical reports that could kill you. I got back to reading when i started working with my children's social studies projects. American history, religion and india are my su jects of interest.
my e perience taught me real life is more twisted than any fictional novel.

>>>Wasn't Follett the guy who wrote On Wings of Eagles, the story about the rescue of EDS employees from Iran? I remember reading that.. Clancy- did he write one of those period stories set in japan (Shogun maybe?). Its been awhile. Non fiction- I pretty much used to read anything I could get my hands on- history, politics etc, but even there, the amount I read has gone down quite a bit due to time constraints. You are right about real life. Its like the old saying-- not only is it stranger than you imagine, it is stranger than you *can* imagine.

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Post by goodcitizn Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:33 am

Kris wrote:..pretty much anymore. I used to read quite voraciously. Some of the work was good, some so-so and the authors were all over the spectrum-- Arthur Hailey, Chase, Harold Robbins, Irving Wallace, Erle Stanley Gardner, some Forsythe and then poof, sometime in mid 20's lost interest in fiction. Can't put my finger on it. Don't know if this was due to less bandwidth, increasing interest in non-fiction or maybe something banal like TV watching. Wonder if this has happened to others?

Kris, I can relate to all of the books you mentioned. You probably left out James Hadley Chase, A. A. Fair (ESG's pseudonym with the wonderful characters - Bertha Cool and Donald Lam), Agatha Christie and Ian Fleming, to name a few others. Mystery fiction have always been my favorites albeit I have gotten more ecclectic over time. Like you, I have found Tom Clancy too tedious to read through, the only book I really enjoyed being The Hunt For Red October. I like John le Carre and enjoyed most of his books, particularly Tinker, Taylor, Soldier, Spy. Yes, of course, the usual assortment of John Grisham, Scott Turow, Tony Hillerman, James Patterson, Sue Grafton and others.

TV is a huge distraction, so is SuCH. Now that you've brought the subject up, I am seriously thinking of devoting more time to reading.

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Post by Kris Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:47 am

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Kris wrote:..pretty much anymore. I used to read quite voraciously. Some of the work was good, some so-so and the authors were all over the spectrum-- Arthur Hailey, Chase, Harold Robbins, Irving Wallace, Erle Stanley Gardner, some Forsythe and then poof, sometime in mid 20's lost interest in fiction. Can't put my finger on it. Don't know if this was due to less bandwidth, increasing interest in non-fiction or maybe something banal like TV watching. Wonder if this has happened to others?

Kris, I can relate to all of the books you mentioned. You probably left out James Hadley Chase, A. A. Fair (ESG's pseudonym with the wonderful characters - Bertha Cool and Donald Lam), Agatha Christie and Ian Fleming, to name a few others. Mystery fiction have always been my favorites albeit I have gotten more ecclectic over time. Like you, I have found Tom Clancy too tedious to read through, the only book I really enjoyed being The Hunt For Red October. I like John le Carre and enjoyed most of his books, particularly Tinker, Taylor, Soldier, Spy. Yes, of course, the usual assortment of John Grisham, Scott Turow, Tony Hillerman, James Patterson, Sue Grafton and others.

TV is a huge distraction, so is SuCH. Now that you've brought the subject up, I am seriously thinking of devoting more time to reading.

>>>>Yeah, Fleming used to be one of my favorites too. I think the problem for me now is I can't focus on reading fiction. This has been an issue for quite awhile now. Maybe it is other day-to-day stuff that reduces bandwidth. Incidentally, if you are in the mood for Indian fiction writers, check out O.V.Vijayan. I went thru a OVV phase once and found his stories to be pretty impressive, set in Kerala. Think RK narayan, except OVV's world is not as innocent as or self-contained as Narayan's Malgudi. The other writer who held my interest for awhile was Ruth Jhabvala. I think she even wrote to some extent for the Merchant Ivory team.

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Post by bw Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:56 am

try the stieg larsson trilogy? that's the last "detective fiction" i've read.

i do think TV/movies have made reading a less attractive activity. it is far easier to watch a show/movie with all the visual effects than read the same story in a book.

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Post by Petrichor Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:29 am

I find myself gravitating lot more to non fiction and the only kind I will plunk dollars for. Fiction is not at all attractive - a good interpretation by great actors in a well crafted movie is all that I have patience for. Even if that interpretation is a bit on the wackier side - sound bites, take aways and a little schwag are all that I look for, in fiction. Yeah, so I do not saturate myself in the endless character descriptions - so what? Before you are done with the character it is passe, neatly packaged for mass commoditization.


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Post by goodcitizn Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:25 pm

atcg wrote:I find myself gravitating lot more to non fiction and the only kind I will plunk dollars for. Fiction is not at all attractive - a good interpretation by great actors in a well crafted movie is all that I have patience for. Even if that interpretation is a bit on the wackier side - sound bites, take aways and a little schwag are all that I look for, in fiction. Yeah, so I do not saturate myself in the endless character descriptions - so what? Before you are done with the character it is passe, neatly packaged for mass commoditization.


Then why do you write fiction? No criticism intended, just curious.

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Post by Petrichor Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:49 pm

Reading it and writing it are two different things...

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Post by goodcitizn Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:12 pm

atcg wrote:Reading it and writing it are two different things...

So unlike you who doesn't find fiction attractive yet write fiction, your readers should find fiction attractive and read yours, is that it?

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Post by Petrichor Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:25 pm

You make it almost sound like the definition of hypocrisy! Smile

Different folks enjoy different things....

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Post by goodcitizn Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:29 pm

atcg wrote:You make it almost sound like the definition of hypocrisy! Smile

Different folks enjoy different things....

It so happens I like fiction so allow me to be one of your readers. Smile

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