Re: open poll - southern indians on this board please vote

[Vakavaka Pakapaka]

Yep. Bengalis, gujjus, marathis, and punjus, they just learned Hindi and moved on. Maybe even many telugus. But none will stand up to fight for Hindi, if not against it. Bimaru is on its own here.

In SI, the average Telugus, Tamils, Kannadigas and Malayalis speak the language they grow up with. For a Telugu, Tamil is as alien as Hindi. So, don't put all SIs into one basket. May be, the average NI can understand Hindi. This is certainly not so in SI. Even Hyderabad (especially, Charminar area), the capital of AP, doesn't represent what the common man in the state speaks.

Rashmun's stories on Dakhin and Hindi are agenda driven and reek of NI chauvinism. If SIs get together to contradict him, it only shows that they recognize what he is trying to do in a crude way. At least, they are not behaving like KV. They may, if the Rashmuns of India persist in shoving Hindi through their throats. It is also disgusting that SIs are treated as less patriotic if they oppose the imposition of Hindi.

[confuzzled dude]

Yep. Bengalis, gujjus, marathis, and punjus, they just learned Hindi and moved on. Maybe even many telugus. But none will stand up to fight for Hindi, if not against it. Bimaru is on its own here.

You're right. A.P never stood up against Hindi imposition in fact, A.P state board curriculum always had Hindi as one of the subjects so most of the High school graduates can read and write Hindi script, if you leave, how much of it is understood, part alone. I believe the same holds true for Kannadigas.

[Guest]

Yep. Bengalis, gujjus, marathis, and punjus, they just learned Hindi and moved on. Maybe even many telugus. But none will stand up to fight for Hindi, if not against it. Bimaru is on its own here.

You're right. A.P never stood up against Hindi imposition in fact, A.P state board curriculum always had Hindi as one of the subjects so most of the High school graduates can read and write Hindi script, if you leave, how much of it is understood, part alone. I believe the same holds true for Kannadigas.

JM was always right. the kannadigas and the gults (in that bamboo or order or chart described by JM once) are shamelessly ingratiating to the NIs. JM states the reality but we mere mortals have no fondness for the truth.

[Idéfix]

Yep. Bengalis, gujjus, marathis, and punjus, they just learned Hindi and moved on. Maybe even many telugus. But none will stand up to fight for Hindi, if not against it. Bimaru is on its own here.

You're right. A.P never stood up against Hindi imposition in fact, A.P state board curriculum always had Hindi as one of the subjects so most of the High school graduates can read and write Hindi script, if you leave, how much of it is understood, part alone. I believe the same holds true for Kannadigas.

JM was always right. the kannadigas and the gults (in that bamboo or order or chart described by JM once) are shamelessly ingratiating to the NIs. JM states the reality but we mere mortals have no fondness for the truth.

LOL @ bamboo. Now, a question for you. Has a TS become a southindian? https://such.forumotion.com/t10959p50-why-i-am-not-an-atheist#85272

Seriously, I don't think Telugus have opposed Hindi imposition as much as they ought to. If not for the Tamilians who fought imposition vigorously in the '60s, India would have missed the outsourcing opportunity; all other non-Hindians looked the other way leaving the Tamilians to fight that battle pretty much alone. I am glad they won. The consequences would have been disastrous otherwise. On the much smaller scale of SuCH, I sincerely thank Rashmun for creating the conditions for Telugus to unite among themselves and with other SIs on this matter.

[Hellsangel]

Yep. Bengalis, gujjus, marathis, and punjus, they just learned Hindi and moved on. Maybe even many telugus. But none will stand up to fight for Hindi, if not against it. Bimaru is on its own here.

You're right. A.P never stood up against Hindi imposition in fact, A.P state board curriculum always had Hindi as one of the subjects so most of the High school graduates can read and write Hindi script, if you leave, how much of it is understood, part alone. I believe the same holds true for Kannadigas.

JM was always right. the kannadigas and the gults (in that bamboo or order or chart described by JM once) are shamelessly ingratiating to the NIs. JM states the reality but we mere mortals have no fondness for the truth.

LOL @ bamboo. Now, a question for you. Has a TS become a southindian? https://such.forumotion.com/t10959p50-why-i-am-not-an-atheist#85272

Seriously, I don't think Telugus have opposed Hindi imposition as much as they ought to. If not for the Tamilians who fought imposition vigorously in the '60s, India would have missed the outsourcing opportunity; all other non-Hindians looked the other way leaving the Tamilians to fight that battle pretty much alone. I am glad they won. The consequences would have been disastrous otherwise. On the much smaller scale of SuCH, I sincerely thank Rashmun for creating the conditions for Telugus to unite among themselves and with other SIs on this matter.

The human mind in most cases is conditioned to resist any kind of imposition. If people pursue any language outside of their curriculum, it is from their own free will and interest. This is akin to the English learning Latin or Greek in their schools. It did not necessarily mean that the English were bilingual in one of those languages.

[Guest]

Has a TS become a southindian? https://such.forumotion.com/t10959p50-why-i-am-not-an-atheist#85272

ha ha! seriously, i don't know.

[nevada]

Yep. Bengalis, gujjus, marathis, and punjus, they just learned Hindi and moved on. Maybe even many telugus. But none will stand up to fight for Hindi, if not against it. Bimaru is on its own here.

You're right. A.P never stood up against Hindi imposition in fact, A.P state board curriculum always had Hindi as one of the subjects so most of the High school graduates can read and write Hindi script, if you leave, how much of it is understood, part alone. I believe the same holds true for Kannadigas.

JM was always right. the kannadigas and the gults (in that bamboo or order or chart described by JM once) are shamelessly ingratiating to the NIs. JM states the reality but we mere mortals have no fondness for the truth.

LOL @ bamboo. Now, a question for you. Has a TS become a southindian? https://such.forumotion.com/t10959p50-why-i-am-not-an-atheist#85272

Seriously, I don't think Telugus have opposed Hindi imposition as much as they ought to. If not for the Tamilians who fought imposition vigorously in the '60s, India would have missed the outsourcing opportunity; all other non-Hindians looked the other way leaving the Tamilians to fight that battle pretty much alone. I am glad they won. The consequences would have been disastrous otherwise. On the much smaller scale of SuCH, I sincerely thank Rashmun for creating the conditions for Telugus to unite among themselves and with other SIs on this matter.

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[Guest]

Yep. Bengalis, gujjus, marathis, and punjus, they just learned Hindi and moved on. Maybe even many telugus. But none will stand up to fight for Hindi, if not against it. Bimaru is on its own here.

You're right. A.P never stood up against Hindi imposition in fact, A.P state board curriculum always had Hindi as one of the subjects so most of the High school graduates can read and write Hindi script, if you leave, how much of it is understood, part alone. I believe the same holds true for Kannadigas.

JM was always right. the kannadigas and the gults (in that bamboo or order or chart described by JM once) are shamelessly ingratiating to the NIs. JM states the reality but we mere mortals have no fondness for the truth.

LOL @ bamboo. Now, a question for you. Has a TS become a southindian? https://such.forumotion.com/t10959p50-why-i-am-not-an-atheist#85272

Seriously, I don't think Telugus have opposed Hindi imposition as much as they ought to. If not for the Tamilians who fought imposition vigorously in the '60s, India would have missed the outsourcing opportunity; all other non-Hindians looked the other way leaving the Tamilians to fight that battle pretty much alone. I am glad they won. The consequences would have been disastrous otherwise. On the much smaller scale of SuCH, I sincerely thank Rashmun for creating the conditions for Telugus to unite among themselves and with other SIs on this matter.

The human mind in most cases is conditioned to resist any kind of imposition. If people pursue any language outside of their curriculum, it is from their own free will and interest. This is akin to the English learning Latin or Greek in their schools. It did not necessarily mean that the English were bilingual in one of those languages.

related: http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130218/jsp/frontpage/story_16574551.jsp#.USJeY6Xq2ds

English akhbaar mein Hindi? (We’re multi-tasking)

- Study suggests Romanagiri steps up brain activity and popular texting style may not be all that bad
G.S. MUDUR
New Delhi, Feb. 17: Hi. Tu kaisi hai? Maths kiya? Mein chahti hoon kal ka paper easy ho... But it’s okay agar paper difficult bhi ho, kyunki mujhe pichlee bar achche marks mile the... Tujhe poster kaisa laga? Achcha tha, haina?... Ab I’ll meet you tomorrow in school. Bye.

Physicist-turned-neuroscientist Nandini Chatterjee Singh doesn’t get annoyed any more when she watches her 13-year-old daughter engage in such chatter in Romanagiri — a term scientists have coined for Hindi or other native Indian languages scripted in Roman alphabets.

Three years ago, whenever she received text messages with Romanagiri words on her mobile phone, she would leave them unread. And she would admonish her son and daughter if she spotted them chatting in Romanagiri.

Not any more.

Singh and her colleagues at the National Brain Research Centre at Manesar in Haryana, have discovered that reading in Romanagiri imposes an extra load on the brain. But that, the scientists think, might not be a bad thing at all.

Their study, based on the first-ever magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scans of brain activity in persons reading Romanagiri text, has revealed increased cognitive loads in the areas of the human brain involved in language processing.

“In processing Romanagiri, the brain has to work extra hard to suppress one component of each language,” said Singh, an associate professor at the NBRC who leads a research group that is exploring how the brain processes speech and language.

The researchers believe this extra effort results from the conflicting demand imposed on the brain when a person tries to read a script not traditionally linked to a language. “When using Roman alphabets for Hindi, the brain has to suppress the script of Hindi and the semantics of English,” Singh told The Telegraph.

The study, just published in the journal Brain and Language, was aimed at investigating neural activity specifically associated with Romanagiri, a form of transliteration that has burgeoned in recent years with the spread of the Internet and mobile communication devices and quick message exchanges via social networking sites.

Singh said indirect evidence from independent studies in the past suggest that persons who are adept at Romanagiri-like transliteration may also be skilled in processing multiple tasks. But, she cautioned, whether such multi-tasking skills in such persons will also apply to neural tasks beyond language processing is still unclear.

Linguists say Romanagiri is fairly widespread in India, visible for decades on Bollywood film posters, but now increasingly being used by the young and the old to text messages through mobile devices or chat online.

“Romanagiri has already influenced some native words through the introduction of variations of words,” said Pramod Pandey, professor at the Centre for Linguistics at the Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi.

“We now have Ashok and Ashoka. Before transliteration, there was only one version — Ashok.”

The visibility of Romanagiri has stirred Singh into speculating whether a common alphabet could help some people overcome the barriers that India’s diverse scripts pose to those wishing to learn multiple languages.

“Romanagiri may allow some people to pick up other languages far more easily than they would if they had to learn their associated scripts too,” Singh said.

Language specialists, however, don’t see Romanagiri replacing scripts.

“A language and its script are both strong symbols of identity,” said Vaishna Narang, another professor of linguistics at the JNU. Neither Pandey nor Narang were associated with the NBRC study.

“The evolution of scripts itself reflects the desire of people to assert their unique identities — take the examples of Hindi or Bengali or Gujarati, they’re related but are different.

Post-doctoral researcher Chaitra Rao and graduate scholar Avantika Mathur were co-authors in the study.

The researchers assigned Romanagiri reading tasks to 15 volunteers familiar with both English and Hindi, and observed the speed at which they would finish the tasks free of errors while observing their brain activity through MRI scans.

[Idéfix]

Seriously, I don't think Telugus have opposed Hindi imposition as much as they ought to. If not for the Tamilians who fought imposition vigorously in the '60s, India would have missed the outsourcing opportunity; all other non-Hindians looked the other way leaving the Tamilians to fight that battle pretty much alone. I am glad they won. The consequences would have been disastrous otherwise. On the much smaller scale of SuCH, I sincerely thank Rashmun for creating the conditions for Telugus to unite among themselves and with other SIs on this matter.

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Hindian politicians wanted to make Hindi the national language (or sole official language) in 1965, discarding English. If Tamilians were as indifferent to those moves as the Telugus and Kannadigas were, they might have succeeded. Given that most education and industry was in government control between the '60s and the '90s, if English was discarded as an official language, the number of English speakers in India would have been a lot lower in the '90s than it actually was. That would have eliminated the competitive advantage India now has over countries like China and Vietnam in the services sector.

[Hellsangel]

related: http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130218/jsp/frontpage/story_16574551.jsp#.USJeY6Xq2ds

English akhbaar mein Hindi? (We’re multi-tasking)

- Study suggests Romanagiri steps up brain activity and popular texting style may not be all that bad
G.S. MUDUR
New Delhi, Feb. 17: Hi. Tu kaisi hai? Maths kiya? Mein chahti hoon kal ka paper easy ho... But it’s okay agar paper difficult bhi ho, kyunki mujhe pichlee bar achche marks mile the... Tujhe poster kaisa laga? Achcha tha, haina?... Ab I’ll meet you tomorrow in school. Bye.

Physicist-turned-neuroscientist Nandini Chatterjee Singh doesn’t get annoyed any more when she watches her 13-year-old daughter engage in such chatter in Romanagiri — a term scientists have coined for Hindi or other native Indian languages scripted in Roman alphabets.


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They did that with Turkish, did they not? Both Latin and Persian scripts are used.

[Idéfix]

related: http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130218/jsp/frontpage/story_16574551.jsp#.USJeY6Xq2ds

English akhbaar mein Hindi? (We’re multi-tasking)

- Study suggests Romanagiri steps up brain activity and popular texting style may not be all that bad
G.S. MUDUR
New Delhi, Feb. 17: Hi. Tu kaisi hai? Maths kiya? Mein chahti hoon kal ka paper easy ho... But it’s okay agar paper difficult bhi ho, kyunki mujhe pichlee bar achche marks mile the... Tujhe poster kaisa laga? Achcha tha, haina?... Ab I’ll meet you tomorrow in school. Bye.

Physicist-turned-neuroscientist Nandini Chatterjee Singh doesn’t get annoyed any more when she watches her 13-year-old daughter engage in such chatter in Romanagiri — a term scientists have coined for Hindi or other native Indian languages scripted in Roman alphabets.


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They did that with Turkish, did they not? Both Latin and Persian scripts are used.

I think Ataturk abolished the use of the Arabic script for Turkish. Now they only write it in the Latin script (though some of the letters have unusual sounds associated with them, from an English speaker's perspective.)

[Hellsangel]

related: http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130218/jsp/frontpage/story_16574551.jsp#.USJeY6Xq2ds

English akhbaar mein Hindi? (We’re multi-tasking)

- Study suggests Romanagiri steps up brain activity and popular texting style may not be all that bad
G.S. MUDUR
New Delhi, Feb. 17: Hi. Tu kaisi hai? Maths kiya? Mein chahti hoon kal ka paper easy ho... But it’s okay agar paper difficult bhi ho, kyunki mujhe pichlee bar achche marks mile the... Tujhe poster kaisa laga? Achcha tha, haina?... Ab I’ll meet you tomorrow in school. Bye.

Physicist-turned-neuroscientist Nandini Chatterjee Singh doesn’t get annoyed any more when she watches her 13-year-old daughter engage in such chatter in Romanagiri — a term scientists have coined for Hindi or other native Indian languages scripted in Roman alphabets.


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They did that with Turkish, did they not? Both Latin and Persian scripts are used.

I think Ataturk abolished the use of the Arabic script for Turkish. Now they only write it in the Latin script (though some of the letters have unusual sounds associated with them, from an English speaker's perspective.)

Maybe the Hindians should try that with Hindi then and abolish the use of the Devanagari script. They might get further in their propaganda.

[nevada]

I doubt English would have just disappeared upon imposition of Hindi as the sole official language. Maybe there would be fewer English knowing people but with the size of population India has, there would be enough people to fill all call center jobs and then some.

But anyways, I wholeheartedly support Tamils' opposition to forceful imposition of Hindi. The "Rashtriya bhasa" thing is as idiotic as declaring chicken curry the national dish disregarding the fact that it is unpalatable to vegetarians.

[Hellsangel]

I doubt English would have just disappeared upon imposition of Hindi as the sole official language. Maybe there would be fewer English knowing people but with the size of population India has, there would be enough people to fill all call center jobs and then some.

But anyways, I wholeheartedly support Tamils' opposition to forceful imposition of Hindi. The "Rashtriya bhasa" thing is as idiotic as declaring chicken curry the national dish disregarding the fact that it is unpalatable to vegetarians.

BTW, there is an app for the Indian constitution.. PART XVII is very interesting reading. First it says:

343. Official language of the Union.—(1) The official language of the Union shall be Hindi in Devanagari script.
The form of numerals to be used for the official purposes of the Union shall be the international form of Indian numerals.
(2) Notwithstanding anything in clause (1), for a period of fifteen years from the commencement of this Constitution, the English language shall continue to be used for all the official purposes of the Union for which it was being used immediately before such commencement:
Provided that the President may, during the said period, by order authorise the use of the Hindi language in addition to the English language and of the Devanagari form of numerals in addition to the international form of Indian numerals for any of the official purposes of the Union.
(3) Notwithstanding anything in this article, Parliament may by law provide for the use, after the said period of fifteen years, of—
(a) the English language, or
(b) the Devanagari form of numerals,
for such purposes as may be specified in the law.

Then it says:

CHAPTER III.—LANGUAGE OF THE SUPREME COURT,
HIGH COURTS, ETC.
348. Language to be used in the Supreme Court and in the High Courts and for Acts, Bills, etc.—(1) Notwithstanding anything in the foregoing provisions of this Part, until Parliament by law otherwise provides—
(a) all proceedings in the Supreme Court and in every High Court,
(b) the authoritative texts—
(i) of all Bills to be introduced or amendments thereto to be moved in either House of Parliament or in the House or either House of the Legislature of a State,
(ii) of all Acts passed by Parliament or the Legislature of a State and of all Ordinances promulgated by the President or the Governor of a State, and
(iii) of all orders, rules, regulations and bye-laws issued under this Constitution or under any law made by Parliament or the Legislature of a State,
shall be in the English language.

[goodcitizn]

I doubt English would have just disappeared upon imposition of Hindi as the sole official language. Maybe there would be fewer English knowing people but with the size of population India has, there would be enough people to fill all call center jobs and then some.

But anyways, I wholeheartedly support Tamils' opposition to forceful imposition of Hindi. The "Rashtriya bhasa" thing is as idiotic as declaring chicken curry the national dish disregarding the fact that it is unpalatable to vegetarians.

I enjoyed this comment more than seeing Tendulkar score another century!

[Idéfix]

The "Rashtriya bhasa" thing is as idiotic as declaring chicken curry the national dish disregarding the fact that it is unpalatable to vegetarians.

I am going to start a Dakshin Bharat Wheat (Genhu) Prachar Sabha. Half (or more) of India's people eat wheat products; it is time the others started eating it for patriotic reasons. Also, in terms of production tonnage, wheat is the world's second most popular cereal. Why would anyone not wish to eat the world's second most popular cereal?

[goodcitizn]

I doubt English would have just disappeared upon imposition of Hindi as the sole official language. Maybe there would be fewer English knowing people but with the size of population India has, there would be enough people to fill all call center jobs and then some.

But anyways, I wholeheartedly support Tamils' opposition to forceful imposition of Hindi. The "Rashtriya bhasa" thing is as idiotic as declaring chicken curry the national dish disregarding the fact that it is unpalatable to vegetarians.

BTW, there is an app for the Indian constitution.. PART XVII is very interesting reading. First it says:

343. Official language of the Union.—(1) The official language of the Union shall be Hindi in Devanagari script.
The form of numerals to be used for the official purposes of the Union shall be the international form of Indian numerals.
(2) Notwithstanding anything in clause (1), for a period of fifteen years from the commencement of this Constitution, the English language shall continue to be used for all the official purposes of the Union for which it was being used immediately before such commencement:
Provided that the President may, during the said period, by order authorise the use of the Hindi language in addition to the English language and of the Devanagari form of numerals in addition to the international form of Indian numerals for any of the official purposes of the Union.
(3) Notwithstanding anything in this article, Parliament may by law provide for the use, after the said period of fifteen years, of—
(a) the English language, or
(b) the Devanagari form of numerals,
for such purposes as may be specified in the law.

Then it says:

CHAPTER III.—LANGUAGE OF THE SUPREME COURT,
HIGH COURTS, ETC.
348. Language to be used in the Supreme Court and in the High Courts and for Acts, Bills, etc.—(1) Notwithstanding anything in the foregoing provisions of this Part, until Parliament by law otherwise provides—
(a) all proceedings in the Supreme Court and in every High Court,
(b) the authoritative texts—
(i) of all Bills to be introduced or amendments thereto to be moved in either House of Parliament or in the House or either House of the Legislature of a State,
(ii) of all Acts passed by Parliament or the Legislature of a State and of all Ordinances promulgated by the President or the Governor of a State, and
(iii) of all orders, rules, regulations and bye-laws issued under this Constitution or under any law made by Parliament or the Legislature of a State,
shall be in the English language.

And, of course, the air traffic control personnel and the pilots communicate in English!

[Kris]

I doubt English would have just disappeared upon imposition of Hindi as the sole official language. Maybe there would be fewer English knowing people but with the size of population India has, there would be enough people to fill all call center jobs and then some.

But anyways, I wholeheartedly support Tamils' opposition to forceful imposition of Hindi. The "Rashtriya bhasa" thing is as idiotic as declaring chicken curry the national dish disregarding the fact that it is unpalatable to vegetarians.

>>>>Probably not disappeared, but would have taken a severe beating. I think this is playing with fire, when you look at the mental midgets that populate the political establishment in India. The furore over Deve Gowda not knowing Hindi is a case in point.

[Vakavaka Pakapaka]

Yep. Bengalis, gujjus, marathis, and punjus, they just learned Hindi and moved on. Maybe even many telugus. But none will stand up to fight for Hindi, if not against it. Bimaru is on its own here.

You're right. A.P never stood up against Hindi imposition in fact, A.P state board curriculum always had Hindi as one of the subjects so most of the High school graduates can read and write Hindi script, if you leave, how much of it is understood, part alone. I believe the same holds true for Kannadigas.

JM was always right. the kannadigas and the gults (in that bamboo or order or chart described by JM once) are shamelessly ingratiating to the NIs. JM states the reality but we mere mortals have no fondness for the truth.

LOL @ bamboo. Now, a question for you. Has a TS become a southindian? https://such.forumotion.com/t10959p50-why-i-am-not-an-atheist#85272

Seriously, I don't think Telugus have opposed Hindi imposition as much as they ought to. If not for the Tamilians who fought imposition vigorously in the '60s, India would have missed the outsourcing opportunity; all other non-Hindians looked the other way leaving the Tamilians to fight that battle pretty much alone. I am glad they won. The consequences would have been disastrous otherwise. On the much smaller scale of SuCH, I sincerely thank Rashmun for creating the conditions for Telugus to unite among themselves and with other SIs on this matter.

Not quite! Telugus can easily unite with the rest of SI. Uppili will be very happy if people of Chittor stopped speaking Telungu with a Tamil accent and start saying vanakkam to Ammaaaa. However, the Dakhin-speaking Telanganites will only unite with Naxalites!

[Idéfix]

Yep. Bengalis, gujjus, marathis, and punjus, they just learned Hindi and moved on. Maybe even many telugus. But none will stand up to fight for Hindi, if not against it. Bimaru is on its own here.

You're right. A.P never stood up against Hindi imposition in fact, A.P state board curriculum always had Hindi as one of the subjects so most of the High school graduates can read and write Hindi script, if you leave, how much of it is understood, part alone. I believe the same holds true for Kannadigas.

JM was always right. the kannadigas and the gults (in that bamboo or order or chart described by JM once) are shamelessly ingratiating to the NIs. JM states the reality but we mere mortals have no fondness for the truth.

LOL @ bamboo. Now, a question for you. Has a TS become a southindian? https://such.forumotion.com/t10959p50-why-i-am-not-an-atheist#85272

Seriously, I don't think Telugus have opposed Hindi imposition as much as they ought to. If not for the Tamilians who fought imposition vigorously in the '60s, India would have missed the outsourcing opportunity; all other non-Hindians looked the other way leaving the Tamilians to fight that battle pretty much alone. I am glad they won. The consequences would have been disastrous otherwise. On the much smaller scale of SuCH, I sincerely thank Rashmun for creating the conditions for Telugus to unite among themselves and with other SIs on this matter.

Not quite! Telugus can easily unite with the rest of SI. Uppili will be very happy if people of Chittor stopped speaking Telungu with a Tamil accent and start saying vanakkam to Ammaaaa. However, the Dakhin-speaking Telanganites will only unite with Naxalites!

Guruvu-gaaru, I am going to file this post for further meditation when I have several hours to ponder its meaning.

[Merlot Daruwala]

The "Rashtriya bhasa" thing is as idiotic as declaring chicken curry the national dish disregarding the fact that it is unpalatable to vegetarians.

I am going to start a Dakshin Bharat Wheat (Genhu) Prachar Sabha. Half (or more) of India's people eat wheat products; it is time the others started eating it for patriotic reasons. Also, in terms of production tonnage, wheat is the world's second most popular cereal. Why would anyone not wish to eat the world's second most popular cereal?

[Petrichor]

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