Rashmun, do you agree with this Pakistani guy?

Rashmun wrote:He is talking rubbish. First, he is wrong when he says that Muslims would go to another country and always settle down in that country. He compares this to colonial rule where the colonial rulers would not settle down in the country they were ruling. The early Muslim invaders would come to India, loot, and then return to their homeland. For instance, Timur or Tamerlane invaded and plundered Delhi. It should be noted that prior to plundering Delhi, Timur had plundered Baghdad. So the idea was to obtain wealth, and not spreading a religion.

Second, he is wrong when he says Muslims who would settle down in a country would not think of the country where they lived as their motherland. There is sufficient evidence that kings like Akbar and Jahangir considered India their motherland.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Rashmun wrote:He is talking rubbish. First, he is wrong when he says that Muslims would go to another country and always settle down in that country. He compares this to colonial rule where the colonial rulers would not settle down in the country they were ruling. The early Muslim invaders would come to India, loot, and then return to their homeland. For instance, Timur or Tamerlane invaded and plundered Delhi. It should be noted that prior to plundering Delhi, Timur had plundered Baghdad. So the idea was to obtain wealth, and not spreading a religion.

Second, he is wrong when he says Muslims who would settle down in a country would not think of the country where they lived as their motherland. There is sufficient evidence that kings like Akbar and Jahangir considered India their motherland.

forget the kings. the arab traders who came to kerala and TN settled there, married the local women and in fact in kerala came to be known as the mappilla muslims.

Rashmun wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Rashmun wrote:He is talking rubbish. First, he is wrong when he says that Muslims would go to another country and always settle down in that country. He compares this to colonial rule where the colonial rulers would not settle down in the country they were ruling. The early Muslim invaders would come to India, loot, and then return to their homeland. For instance, Timur or Tamerlane invaded and plundered Delhi. It should be noted that prior to plundering Delhi, Timur had plundered Baghdad. So the idea was to obtain wealth, and not spreading a religion.

Second, he is wrong when he says Muslims who would settle down in a country would not think of the country where they lived as their motherland. There is sufficient evidence that kings like Akbar and Jahangir considered India their motherland.

forget the kings. the arab traders who came to kerala and TN settled there, married the local women and in fact in kerala came to be known as the mappilla muslims.

That may be so but the moplah Muslims together with all other South Indian Muslims have a special reverence for the North Indian Sufi saint Gisu Daraz. They throng enthusiastically to pay their respects at the tomb of this northindian, I mean North Indian.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Rashmun wrote:He is talking rubbish. First, he is wrong when he says that Muslims would go to another country and always settle down in that country. He compares this to colonial rule where the colonial rulers would not settle down in the country they were ruling. The early Muslim invaders would come to India, loot, and then return to their homeland. For instance, Timur or Tamerlane invaded and plundered Delhi. It should be noted that prior to plundering Delhi, Timur had plundered Baghdad. So the idea was to obtain wealth, and not spreading a religion.

Second, he is wrong when he says Muslims who would settle down in a country would not think of the country where they lived as their motherland. There is sufficient evidence that kings like Akbar and Jahangir considered India their motherland.

forget the kings. the arab traders who came to kerala and TN settled there, married the local women and in fact in kerala came to be known as the mappilla muslims.

That may be so but the moplah Muslims together with all other South Indian Muslims have a special reverence for the North Indian Sufi saint Gisu Daraz. They throng enthusiastically to pay their respects at the tomb of this northindian, I mean North Indian.

irrelevant. this thread is about muslims never settling down and becoming part of the local citizenry.

Rashmun wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Rashmun wrote:He is talking rubbish. First, he is wrong when he says that Muslims would go to another country and always settle down in that country. He compares this to colonial rule where the colonial rulers would not settle down in the country they were ruling. The early Muslim invaders would come to India, loot, and then return to their homeland. For instance, Timur or Tamerlane invaded and plundered Delhi. It should be noted that prior to plundering Delhi, Timur had plundered Baghdad. So the idea was to obtain wealth, and not spreading a religion.

Second, he is wrong when he says Muslims who would settle down in a country would not think of the country where they lived as their motherland. There is sufficient evidence that kings like Akbar and Jahangir considered India their motherland.

forget the kings. the arab traders who came to kerala and TN settled there, married the local women and in fact in kerala came to be known as the mappilla muslims.

That may be so but the moplah Muslims together with all other South Indian Muslims have a special reverence for the North Indian Sufi saint Gisu Daraz. They throng enthusiastically to pay their respects at the tomb of this northindian, I mean North Indian.

irrelevant. this thread is about muslims never settling down and becoming part of the local citizenry.

Not quite. It is also about the claim that Muslims who settle down in India do not regard themselves as Indians but consider the place where they or their ancestors had migrated from as their homeland.

Since the most revered figure of South Indian Muslims is a northindian I mean North Indian this second claim is shown to be false.