Should India claim Gilgit Baltistan on account of its Shia population ??

ashdoc wrote:The Shia population of Gilgit Baltistan faces the problem of discrimination by Pakistani authorities---a problem that can be solved by the integration of that part in secular India .

Gilgit Baltistan will feel more secure in secular India and might give its loyalty to India . Integration of sunni majority areas of pak is not a practical idea because the sunnis are likely to hate India unlike Shias . Besides India already claims Gilgit baltistan as it territory on the maps . On the other hand it does not claim other parts of Pakistan .

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

ashdoc wrote:The Shia population of Gilgit Baltistan faces the problem of discrimination by Pakistani authorities---a problem that can be solved by the integration of that part in secular India .

Gilgit Baltistan will feel more secure in secular India and might give its loyalty to India . Integration of sunni majority areas of pak is not a practical idea because the sunnis are likely to hate India unlike Shias . Besides India already claims Gilgit baltistan as it territory on the maps . On the other hand it does not claim other parts of Pakistan .

Shuia and Sunnis may fight each other, but when its against India they join forces. Same thing used to be said about Kshmiri Sufis.

ashdoc wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

ashdoc wrote:The Shia population of Gilgit Baltistan faces the problem of discrimination by Pakistani authorities---a problem that can be solved by the integration of that part in secular India .

Gilgit Baltistan will feel more secure in secular India and might give its loyalty to India . Integration of sunni majority areas of pak is not a practical idea because the sunnis are likely to hate India unlike Shias . Besides India already claims Gilgit baltistan as it territory on the maps . On the other hand it does not claim other parts of Pakistan .

Shuia and Sunnis may fight each other, but when its against India they join forces. Same thing used to be said about Kshmiri Sufis.

recent events like sustained sunni attacks on shias in pakistan have changed shia perceptions . the shias in kargil ( kargil has a substantial shia population ) did not support pakistan in its kargil adventure .

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

ashdoc wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

ashdoc wrote:The Shia population of Gilgit Baltistan faces the problem of discrimination by Pakistani authorities---a problem that can be solved by the integration of that part in secular India .

Gilgit Baltistan will feel more secure in secular India and might give its loyalty to India . Integration of sunni majority areas of pak is not a practical idea because the sunnis are likely to hate India unlike Shias . Besides India already claims Gilgit baltistan as it territory on the maps . On the other hand it does not claim other parts of Pakistan .

Shuia and Sunnis may fight each other, but when its against India they join forces. Same thing used to be said about Kshmiri Sufis.

recent events like sustained sunni attacks on shias in pakistan have changed shia perceptions . the shias in kargil ( kargil has a substantial shia population ) did not support pakistan in its kargil adventure .

People's memory is short - language, religion, land, etc...trump everything else over time. Bangla was all Pro India in the 70s and quickly became anti-India in the 80s. One can blame Zia-ur Rahman for that but the fact remains it takes only a catalyst to turn people's opinion towards religion, language, and caste.

ashdoc wrote:

i feel these anti shia attacks in pakistan are going to keep on happening . so shias are going to be increasingly disenchanted with pakistan .

ashdoc wrote:The Shia population of Gilgit Baltistan faces the problem of discrimination by Pakistani authorities---a problem that can be solved by the integration of that part in secular India .

Gilgit Baltistan will feel more secure in secular India and might give its loyalty to India . Integration of sunni majority areas of pak is not a practical idea because the sunnis are likely to hate India unlike Shias . Besides India already claims Gilgit baltistan as it territory on the maps . On the other hand it does not claim other parts of Pakistan .

Kris wrote:

ashdoc wrote:The Shia population of Gilgit Baltistan faces the problem of discrimination by Pakistani authorities---a problem that can be solved by the integration of that part in secular India .

Gilgit Baltistan will feel more secure in secular India and might give its loyalty to India . Integration of sunni majority areas of pak is not a practical idea because the sunnis are likely to hate India unlike Shias . Besides India already claims Gilgit baltistan as it territory on the maps . On the other hand it does not claim other parts of Pakistan .

>>>I know this is probably some off-the-cuff musing, but in seriousness this will result in disaster. Shias and Sunnis may fight each other, but in the end their world-views are not that different when it comes to non-islamists ('infidels', in other words)

ashdoc wrote:

Kris wrote:

ashdoc wrote:The Shia population of Gilgit Baltistan faces the problem of discrimination by Pakistani authorities---a problem that can be solved by the integration of that part in secular India .

Gilgit Baltistan will feel more secure in secular India and might give its loyalty to India . Integration of sunni majority areas of pak is not a practical idea because the sunnis are likely to hate India unlike Shias . Besides India already claims Gilgit baltistan as it territory on the maps . On the other hand it does not claim other parts of Pakistan .

>>>I know this is probably some off-the-cuff musing, but in seriousness this will result in disaster. Shias and Sunnis may fight each other, but in the end their world-views are not that different when it comes to non-islamists ('infidels', in other words)

what disaster....???

gilgit baltistan is a low density of population area , and addition of it will not significantly increase the muslim population in india .

on the other hand we will get a strategic region through which the karakoram highway passes from pak to china , thus cutting off communications between them .

ashdoc wrote:

Kris wrote:

ashdoc wrote:The Shia population of Gilgit Baltistan faces the problem of discrimination by Pakistani authorities---a problem that can be solved by the integration of that part in secular India .

Gilgit Baltistan will feel more secure in secular India and might give its loyalty to India . Integration of sunni majority areas of pak is not a practical idea because the sunnis are likely to hate India unlike Shias . Besides India already claims Gilgit baltistan as it territory on the maps . On the other hand it does not claim other parts of Pakistan .

>>>I know this is probably some off-the-cuff musing, but in seriousness this will result in disaster. Shias and Sunnis may fight each other, but in the end their world-views are not that different when it comes to non-islamists ('infidels', in other words)

what disaster....???

gilgit baltistan is a low density of population area , and addition of it will not significantly increase the muslim population in india .

on the other hand we will get a strategic region through which the karakoram highway passes from pak to china , thus cutting off communications between them .

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