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Post by Rishi Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:14 pm

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/345563/tamil-movie-lyricist-vaali-dead.html

http://dinamani.com/latest_news/2013/07/18/%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%88%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%9E%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B2/article1689951.ece

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaali_%28poet%29


Interesting.

The DK/DMK crowd preferred this Iyengar guy over Kannadasan a Chettiar.

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Post by Petrichor Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:19 pm

Ramanuja Kavyam on my bucket list. Trying to memorize Saatrumurai these days.

Theedhilaa NallOr ThiRaL ...


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Post by garam_kuta Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:21 pm

Rishi wrote:http://www.deccanherald.com/content/345563/tamil-movie-lyricist-vaali-dead.html

http://dinamani.com/latest_news/2013/07/18/%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%88%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%9E%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B2/article1689951.ece

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaali_%28poet%29


Interesting.

The DK/DMK crowd preferred this Iyengar guy over Kannadasan a Chettiar.

Uppili probably is the right person to provide more incisive insight into this.

actually good citizen may know more about it.

but, you are kidding right? after the dalmiapuram trauma when kanndAsan was jailed for more than 2 weeks while K'dhi walked out in 45 minutes  KannadAsan quit and calls his tenure with them as' vanavAsam' .  in baae pAndiya 'yArai engae vaippadhu endru song  is a gem, his reflection of that time in jail.

did you know that vAli wrote more number of songs for Sivaji ganesan than for MGR - not sure may be because Sivaji was in the movies for longer time.. need to normalize and check it out.. but that is what vAli said in a vairamuthu book launching vijay tv-show may be two years ago.

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Post by goodcitizn Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:42 pm

garam_kuta wrote:
actually good citizen may know more about it.

but, you are kidding right? after the dalmiapuram trauma when kanndAsan was jailed for more than 2 weeks while K'dhi walked out in 45 minutes  KannadAsan quit and calls his tenure with them as' vanavAsam' .  in baae pAndiya 'yArai engae vaippadhu endru song  is a gem, his reflection of that time in jail.

did you know that vAli wrote more number of songs for Sivaji ganesan than for MGR - not sure may be because Sivaji was in the movies for longer time.. need to normalize and check it out.. but that is what vAli said in a vairamuthu book launching vijay tv-show may be two years ago.
This might explain the rift between Kannadasan and Karunanidhi. I had received this from a friend in the cine field.

40 வருடங்களுக்கு முன்னால் கண்ணதாசனை பார்த்து "நீ கவிஞனா?" என கருணாநிதி கேட்டதற்கு கண்ணதாசன் எழுதிய கவிதை.

அஞ்சாதா சிங்கமென்றும்
அன்றெடுத்த தங்கமென்றும்
பிஞ்சான நெஞ்சினர் முன்
பேதையர் முன் ஏழையர் முன்
நெஞ்சாரப் பொய்யுரைத்து

தன்சாதி தன்குடும்பம்
தான்வாழ‌ தனியிடத்து
பஞ்சாங்கம் பார்த்திருக்கும்
பண்புடையான் கவிஞ‌னெனில்
நானோ கவிஞ‌னில்லை
என்பாட்டும் கவிதையல்ல‌

பகுத்தறிவை ஊர்க்குரைத்து
பணத்தறிவை தனக்குவைத்து
தொகுத்துரைத்த‌ பொய்களுக்கும்
சோடனைகள் செய்து வைத்து
நகத்து நுனி உண்மையின்றி
நாள்முழுதும் வேடமிட்டு
மடத்தில் உள்ள சாமிபோல்
மாமாய‌ கதையுரைத்து

வகுத்துண‌ரும் வழியறியா
மானிடத்து தலைவரென்று
பிழைத்திருக்கும் ஆண்மையில்லா
பேதையனே கவிஞ‌னெனில்
நானோ கவிஞ‌னில்லை
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Post by Rishi Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:48 pm

garam_kuta wrote:
Rishi wrote:http://www.deccanherald.com/content/345563/tamil-movie-lyricist-vaali-dead.html

http://dinamani.com/latest_news/2013/07/18/%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%88%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%9E%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B2/article1689951.ece

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaali_%28poet%29


Interesting.

The DK/DMK crowd preferred this Iyengar guy over Kannadasan a Chettiar.

Uppili probably is the right person to provide more incisive insight into this.

actually good citizen may know more about it.

but, you are kidding right? after the dalmiapuram trauma when kanndAsan was jailed for more than 2 weeks while K'dhi walked out in 45 minutes  KannadAsan quit and calls his tenure with them as' vanavAsam' .  in baae pAndiya 'yArai engae vaippadhu endru song  is a gem, his reflection of that time in jail.

did you know that vAli wrote more number of songs for Sivaji ganesan than for MGR - not sure may be because Sivaji was in the movies for longer time.. need to normalize and check it out.. but that is what vAli said in a vairamuthu book launching vijay tv-show may be two years ago.

I know that the DMK crowd fell out of favor with Kannadasan.

But I am curious as to why the Anti-Brahmin DMK liked Vaali, a brahmin. They could have found a another non-brahmin movie song writer.

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Post by Kayalvizhi Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:09 pm

DMK fell out with Kannadasan because this traitor joined Congress in 1960s and supported Hindi imposition, Indian unity and other nonsense.

Don't write nonsense like now DMK allied with Congress. We are talking 1960s.

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Post by garam_kuta Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:09 pm

Rishi wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
Rishi wrote:http://www.deccanherald.com/content/345563/tamil-movie-lyricist-vaali-dead.html

http://dinamani.com/latest_news/2013/07/18/%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%88%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%9E%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B2/article1689951.ece

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaali_%28poet%29


Interesting.

The DK/DMK crowd preferred this Iyengar guy over Kannadasan a Chettiar.

Uppili probably is the right person to provide more incisive insight into this.

actually good citizen may know more about it.

but, you are kidding right? after the dalmiapuram trauma when kanndAsan was jailed for more than 2 weeks while K'dhi walked out in 45 minutes  KannadAsan quit and calls his tenure with them as' vanavAsam' .  in baae pAndiya 'yArai engae vaippadhu endru song  is a gem, his reflection of that time in jail.

did you know that vAli wrote more number of songs for Sivaji ganesan than for MGR - not sure may be because Sivaji was in the movies for longer time.. need to normalize and check it out.. but that is what vAli said in a vairamuthu book launching vijay tv-show may be two years ago.

I know that the DMK crowd fell out of favor with Kannadasan.

But I am curious as to why the Anti-Brahmin DMK liked Vaali, a brahmin. They could have found a another non-brahmin movie song writer.

'oorukku iLaiththavan piLayAr koil aandi'- that was the strategy like anybody elses,; as Caravaka says 'labeling is so easy'... you find a simple easy victim, label and promote your agenda.. so brahmin /non-brahmin is all just of convenience- or else ramaswamy naicker would not have defended having almost exclusive brahmin tenants and hired professionals because he had total tacit trust in them.

Also hear out vAli's MGR songs.  In every movie ( almost w/o an exception, I should think) a minimum of one song would have deivam, koil, iraivan and such, although they were supposed to atheists.. it's just a farce that was so profitable.

it was all just political expediency and convenience for profit.

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Post by garam_kuta Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:16 am

goodcitizn wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
actually good citizen may know more about it.

but, you are kidding right? after the dalmiapuram trauma when kanndAsan was jailed for more than 2 weeks while K'dhi walked out in 45 minutes  KannadAsan quit and calls his tenure with them as' vanavAsam' .  in baae pAndiya 'yArai engae vaippadhu endru song  is a gem, his reflection of that time in jail.

did you know that vAli wrote more number of songs for Sivaji ganesan than for MGR - not sure may be because Sivaji was in the movies for longer time.. need to normalize and check it out.. but that is what vAli said in a vairamuthu book launching vijay tv-show may be two years ago.
This might explain the rift between Kannadasan and Karunanidhi. I had received this from a friend in the cine field.

40 வருடங்களுக்கு முன்னால் கண்ணதாசனை பார்த்து "நீ கவிஞனா?" என கருணாநிதி கேட்டதற்கு கண்ணதாசன் எழுதிய கவிதை.

அஞ்சாதா சிங்கமென்றும்
அன்றெடுத்த தங்கமென்றும்
பிஞ்சான நெஞ்சினர் முன்
பேதையர் முன் ஏழையர் முன்
நெஞ்சாரப் பொய்யுரைத்து

தன்சாதி தன்குடும்பம்
தான்வாழ‌ தனியிடத்து
பஞ்சாங்கம் பார்த்திருக்கும்
பண்புடையான் கவிஞ‌னெனில்
நானோ கவிஞ‌னில்லை
என்பாட்டும் கவிதையல்ல‌

பகுத்தறிவை ஊர்க்குரைத்து
பணத்தறிவை தனக்குவைத்து
தொகுத்துரைத்த‌ பொய்களுக்கும்
சோடனைகள் செய்து வைத்து
நகத்து நுனி உண்மையின்றி
நாள்முழுதும் வேடமிட்டு
மடத்தில் உள்ள சாமிபோல்
மாமாய‌ கதையுரைத்து

வகுத்துண‌ரும் வழியறியா
மானிடத்து தலைவரென்று
பிழைத்திருக்கும் ஆண்மையில்லா
பேதையனே கவிஞ‌னெனில்
நானோ கவிஞ‌னில்லை
என்பாட்டும் கவிதையல்ல

interesting & clever one one too..mikka nandri nanbarae!

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Post by Kayalvizhi Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:23 am

Kannadasan is the lowest of the lowest to me. Unprincipled, sellout politician. Never faced an elecxtrorate. You people praising him is ridiculous.

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