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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:07 am


[url= ..http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/08/19/ted-cruz-releases-birth-certificate/?hpt=hp_t2]..What if a person born to US citiens ABROAD gets US passport - and no other passport - returns to US ?[/url]

A case in point: A chines or Arab couples with US passport having kids in China or Saudi? There are other possibilities as well.

Thot that is why the constitution clearly says that only those born in US is eligible to become Prez.

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:17 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
..What if a person born to US citiens ABROAD gets US passport - and no other passport - returns to US ?

A case in point: A chines or Arab couples with US passport having kids in China or Saudi? There are other possibilities as well.

Thot that is why the constitution clearly says that only those born in US is eligible to become Prez.
Isn't there an exception to the above?
 
For example, if the parent / parents (U.S. citizens) are in the U.S. military and stationed outside (Germany etc.) as part of their service to the country (U.S.), then doesn't a kid born to them outside the U.S.A. still qualify for the job of U.S. presidency (provided he / she hasn't taken another citizenship)?
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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:44 am

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
..What if a person born to US citiens ABROAD gets US passport - and no other passport - returns to US ?

A case in point: A chines or Arab couples with US passport having kids in China or Saudi? There are other possibilities as well.

Thot that is why the constitution clearly says that only those born in US is eligible to become Prez.
Isn't there an exception to the above?
 
For example, if the parent / parents (U.S. citizens) are in the U.S. military and stationed outside (Germany etc.) as part of their service to the country (U.S.), then doesn't a kid born to them outside the U.S.A. still qualify for the job of U.S. presidency (provided he / she hasn't taken another citizenship)?
I dont think so... Remember Simon - the Dem candidate in 88 or 92.. His parents were missionaries in China and they came to US to have the baby so that he would not be deprived of a possible presidential bid. That is the reason why ppl were hounding Obama as well.

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:31 pm

ask the donald.
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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:26 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:ask the donald.
Yes yes... If only someone could make him in-charge of INS (USDOJ), he would declare himself a foreigner.

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:44 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
..What if a person born to US citiens ABROAD gets US passport - and no other passport - returns to US ?

A case in point: A chines or Arab couples with US passport having kids in China or Saudi? There are other possibilities as well.

Thot that is why the constitution clearly says that only those born in US is eligible to become Prez.
Isn't there an exception to the above?
 
For example, if the parent / parents (U.S. citizens) are in the U.S. military and stationed outside (Germany etc.) as part of their service to the country (U.S.), then doesn't a kid born to them outside the U.S.A. still qualify for the job of U.S. presidency (provided he / she hasn't taken another citizenship)?
I dont think so... Remember Simon - the Dem candidate in 88 or 92.. His parents were missionaries in China and they came to US to have the baby so that he would not be deprived of a possible presidential bid.  That is the reason why ppl were hounding Obama as well.
American parents working privately overseas, including as religious missionaries, is probably not given the same consideration (in children getting the chance to become U.S. president) as the American parents working overseas in U.S. military forces or on military assignments.
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Post by Seva Lamberdar Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:52 pm

Here is something related to this ... John McCain (2008 presidential candidate, born in Panama Canal zone to U.S. military parents).
 
"John McCain (born 1936), who ran for the Republican party nomination in 2000 and was the Republican nominee in 2008, was born at Coco Solo Naval Air Station[61][80][81][82][83][84][85] in the Panama Canal Zone. McCain never released his birth certificate to the press or independent fact-checking organizations, but did show it to Washington Post reporter Michael Dobbs, who wrote "a senior official of the McCain campaign showed me a copy of [McCain's] birth certificate issued by the 'family hospital' in the Coco Solo submarine base".[82] A lawsuit filed by Fred Hollander in 2008 alleged that McCain was actually born in a civilian hospital in Colon City, Panama.[86][87] Dobbs wrote that in his autobiography, Faith of My Fathers, McCain wrote that he was born "in the Canal Zone" at the U.S. Naval Air Station in Coco Solo, which was under the command of his grandfather, John S. McCain Sr. "The senator's father, John S. McCain Jr., was an executive officer on a submarine, also based in Coco Solo. His mother, Roberta McCain, has said that she has vivid memories of lying in bed listening to raucous celebrations of her son's birth from the nearby officers' club. The birth was announced days later in the English-language Panamanian American newspaper."[88][89][90][91]

"The former unincorporated territory of the Panama Canal Zone and its related military facilities were not regarded as United States territory at the time,[92] but 8 U.S.C. § 1403, which became law in 1937, retroactively conferred citizenship on individuals born within the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and on individuals born in the Republic of Panama on or after that date who had at least one U.S. citizen parent employed by the U.S. government or the Panama Railway Company; 8 U.S.C. § 1403 was cited in Judge William Alsup's 2008 ruling, described below. A March 2008 paper by former Solicitor General Ted Olson and Harvard Law Professor Laurence H. Tribe opined that McCain was eligible for the Presidency.[93] In April 2008, the U.S. Senate approved a non-binding resolution recognizing McCain's status as a natural-born citizen.[94] In September 2008, U.S. District Judge William Alsup stated obiter in his ruling that it is "highly probable" that McCain is a natural-born citizen from birth by virtue of 8 U.S.C. § 1401, although he acknowledged the alternative possibility that McCain became a natural-born citizen retroactively, by way of 8 U.S.C. § 1403.[95]"  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause
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