The idea of India according to RSS and BJP
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The idea of India according to RSS and BJP
Unlike other political parties, the BJP runs an online book shop, which offers a variety of books espousing its viewpoint at attractive discount prices. As far as I have been able to determine, this is a first in India. There is the caveat that the Irish political party Sinn Fein has an online bookshop, and the Croydon branch of the British Labour Party has signed up to be a member of the Amazon Affiliate Programme, allowing it to collect 15% of the cut on books sold through its site).
The party seems to know how to offer an attractive bargain. The most expensive item in the store, a three volume work by Shri Atal Behari Vajpayee is on offer at a huge 25% discount (Rs 1500/- marked down from Rs 2000/-). But this storehouse of knowledge tells more about the BJP than just its business sense.
That Bible of the RSS, the "Bunch of Thoughts" by "Guruji" M.S. Golwalkar, the second Sar Sanghachalak (supreme leader) of the RSS, is on sale (though not at a discount). Funnily enough, though, Golwalkar's 1939 work, "We, or Our Nationhood Defined", is missing.
Both "Bunch of Thoughts" and "We" are infamous for their racist views. In "Bunch of Thoughts", the Sar Sanghachalak expounds on his opinion that Muslims and Christians are unpatriotic and lack "love and devotion for the nation". His hatred ranges farther afield. He describes the Chinese people in these terms: "They eat rats, pigs, dogs, serpents, cockroaches, and everything. Such men cannot be expected to have human qualities."
The missing "We" is particularly juicy: in it the author lavishes praise on the atrocious Nazi campaign that had gone on in Germany, for most of the 1930s, against Jews and Gypsies. "There are only two courses open to these foreign elements," Golwalkar explained, "either to merge themselves in the national race and adopt its culture or to live at its mercy so long as the national race may allow them to do so and quit the country at the sweet will of the national race". He added that this was "a good lesson for us in Hindusthan to learn and profit by".
The absence of "We" calls to mind a Rajya Sabha debate of last year, at the time of the Gujarat government's decision to allow government servants to be members of the RSS. Kapil Sibal tried to read out a study quoting from "We", and was repeatedly heckled and shouted down by BJP members. These worthies decided that since Sibal was not reading directly from "We", but rather from a book which quoted "We", he was not quoting authentic RSS sources. "He is misleading the nation!" shouted the fervid BJP member T.N.
Chaturvedi.
Perhaps "We" is missing to prevent anyone reading directly from it in Parliament, and thereby doing away with that silly objection...
http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?211728
The party seems to know how to offer an attractive bargain. The most expensive item in the store, a three volume work by Shri Atal Behari Vajpayee is on offer at a huge 25% discount (Rs 1500/- marked down from Rs 2000/-). But this storehouse of knowledge tells more about the BJP than just its business sense.
That Bible of the RSS, the "Bunch of Thoughts" by "Guruji" M.S. Golwalkar, the second Sar Sanghachalak (supreme leader) of the RSS, is on sale (though not at a discount). Funnily enough, though, Golwalkar's 1939 work, "We, or Our Nationhood Defined", is missing.
Both "Bunch of Thoughts" and "We" are infamous for their racist views. In "Bunch of Thoughts", the Sar Sanghachalak expounds on his opinion that Muslims and Christians are unpatriotic and lack "love and devotion for the nation". His hatred ranges farther afield. He describes the Chinese people in these terms: "They eat rats, pigs, dogs, serpents, cockroaches, and everything. Such men cannot be expected to have human qualities."
The missing "We" is particularly juicy: in it the author lavishes praise on the atrocious Nazi campaign that had gone on in Germany, for most of the 1930s, against Jews and Gypsies. "There are only two courses open to these foreign elements," Golwalkar explained, "either to merge themselves in the national race and adopt its culture or to live at its mercy so long as the national race may allow them to do so and quit the country at the sweet will of the national race". He added that this was "a good lesson for us in Hindusthan to learn and profit by".
The absence of "We" calls to mind a Rajya Sabha debate of last year, at the time of the Gujarat government's decision to allow government servants to be members of the RSS. Kapil Sibal tried to read out a study quoting from "We", and was repeatedly heckled and shouted down by BJP members. These worthies decided that since Sibal was not reading directly from "We", but rather from a book which quoted "We", he was not quoting authentic RSS sources. "He is misleading the nation!" shouted the fervid BJP member T.N.
Chaturvedi.
Perhaps "We" is missing to prevent anyone reading directly from it in Parliament, and thereby doing away with that silly objection...
http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?211728
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Re: The idea of India according to RSS and BJP
why is gowalkar spelling hindustan with an h after the t, as in hindusthan?
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Re: The idea of India according to RSS and BJP
he wants his ass handed down to him
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Re: The idea of India according to RSS and BJP
May have been a typo.MaxEntropy_Man wrote:why is gowalkar spelling hindustan with an h after the t, as in hindusthan?
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Southie influenceMaxEntropy_Man wrote:why is gowalkar spelling hindustan with an h after the t, as in hindusthan?
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this picture:
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that's a very odd and telling typo i think!Rashmun wrote:May have been a typo.MaxEntropy_Man wrote:why is gowalkar spelling hindustan with an h after the t, as in hindusthan?
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I would compare M.S Gowalker to Velupillai Pirabakaran.
Hindus had been enslaved for more than 1000 years. They needed an organization to unite them so that they will not be pushed around anymore. But they ended up with the wrong organization and a crackpot as the leader,
The same way the Tamils in Sri Lanka needed some one to lead their fight for first class citizenship. But what got was LTTE and megalomaniac Pirabakaran.
Hindus had been enslaved for more than 1000 years. They needed an organization to unite them so that they will not be pushed around anymore. But they ended up with the wrong organization and a crackpot as the leader,
The same way the Tamils in Sri Lanka needed some one to lead their fight for first class citizenship. But what got was LTTE and megalomaniac Pirabakaran.
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gowalkar sounds increasingly like roderick spode.
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Of course...for you guys no one can beat MT Sonia Mata and it shows... Not a whisper from any of the PiSS group about her - the root cause of all the ills in India today.MaxEntropy_Man wrote:gowalkar sounds increasingly like roderick spode.
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she sounds like aunt agatha. happy now?Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Of course...for you guys no one can beat MT Sonia Mata and it shows... Not a whisper from any of the PiSS group about her - the root cause of all the ills in India today.MaxEntropy_Man wrote:gowalkar sounds increasingly like roderick spode.
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Does this mean ..... Max thinks that he belongs to the PiSS group?MaxEntropy_Man wrote:she sounds like aunt agatha. happy now?Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Of course...for you guys no one can beat MT Sonia Mata and it shows... Not a whisper from any of the PiSS group about her - the root cause of all the ills in India today.MaxEntropy_Man wrote:gowalkar sounds increasingly like roderick spode.
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The complete text of Golwalkar's "We, or our nationhood defined":
http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/95053816#fullscreen
Sandilya and Uppili, go knock yourself out reading the views of the intellectual you admire.
http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/95053816#fullscreen
Sandilya and Uppili, go knock yourself out reading the views of the intellectual you admire.
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No cut/paste 100 lines ? Just the link ?Rashmun wrote:The complete text of Golwalkar's "We, or our nationhood defined":
http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/95053816#fullscreen
Sandilya and Uppili, go knock yourself out reading the views of the intellectual you admire.
What is happening to you ? you ok...start recycling all cut/paste and bring orgasm to the PiSS group.
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Re: The idea of India according to RSS and BJP
It is in a format that does not allow me to cut and paste otherwise I would have given you some of the more juicy extracts.Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:No cut/paste 100 lines ? Just the link ?Rashmun wrote:The complete text of Golwalkar's "We, or our nationhood defined":
http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/95053816#fullscreen
Sandilya and Uppili, go knock yourself out reading the views of the intellectual you admire.
What is happening to you ? you ok...start recycling all cut/paste and bring orgasm to the PiSS group.
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Re: The idea of India according to RSS and BJP
None of you know history.
Here is the truth
"
The British conquered the various kingdoms in the Indian subcontinent one by one. Then, for ease of administering (ruling) the conquered territories, the British set up an administrative unit called India. A country or administrative unit called India (or by any other name), comprising of the current territories of India, never existed in all known history, before the British conquest and consolidation."
Excerpted from
http://www.tamiltribune.com//99/0402-why-tamil-nadu-independence.html
Here is the truth
"
The British conquered the various kingdoms in the Indian subcontinent one by one. Then, for ease of administering (ruling) the conquered territories, the British set up an administrative unit called India. A country or administrative unit called India (or by any other name), comprising of the current territories of India, never existed in all known history, before the British conquest and consolidation."
Excerpted from
http://www.tamiltribune.com//99/0402-why-tamil-nadu-independence.html
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How many times have I told you, explained to you and challenged you?Kayalvizhi wrote:None of you know history.
Here is the truth
"
The British conquered the various kingdoms in the Indian subcontinent one by one. Then, for ease of administering (ruling) the conquered territories, the British set up an administrative unit called India. A country or administrative unit called India (or by any other name), comprising of the current territories of India, never existed in all known history, before the British conquest and consolidation."
Excerpted from
http://www.tamiltribune.com//99/0402-why-tamil-nadu-independence.html
Repeat after me:
There has been no entity called "T A M I L N A D U" which has ever been ruled by a king ever in the past.
You are demanding free Tamil Nadu based on the exact boundary drawn by the very same Brits for their administrative convenience in your own words.
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>> You are demanding free Tamil Nadu based on the exact boundary drawn by the very same Brits for their administrative convenience in your own words.
NO.
NO.
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Re: The idea of India according to RSS and BJP
Megasthanes had written his book Indica, about the Indian sub-continent and the culture of its people, more than two thousand years ago.
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Uppili is correct. KV's knowledge of history seems to be nill.Kayalvizhi wrote:>> You are demanding free Tamil Nadu based on the exact boundary drawn by the very same Brits for their administrative convenience in your own words.
NO.
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You are wrong....KV has "Brainwashed knowledge of history"...which appears to him as facts and truths while the whole world knows they are not.Rashmun wrote:Uppili is correct. KV's knowledge of history seems to be nill.Kayalvizhi wrote:>> You are demanding free Tamil Nadu based on the exact boundary drawn by the very same Brits for their administrative convenience in your own words.
NO.
Of course, you MUST know about this mental illness....
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If your knowledge of history is nill, or if you have a brainwashed knowledge of history, it amounts to the same thing. So I am right about KV.Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:You are wrong....KV has "Brainwashed knowledge of history"...which appears to him as facts and truths while the whole world knows they are not.Rashmun wrote:Uppili is correct. KV's knowledge of history seems to be nill.Kayalvizhi wrote:>> You are demanding free Tamil Nadu based on the exact boundary drawn by the very same Brits for their administrative convenience in your own words.
NO.
Of course, you MUST know about this mental illness....
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Like I said you know it best...Rashmun wrote:If your knowledge of history is nill, or if you have a brainwashed knowledge of history, it amounts to the same thing. So I am right about KV.Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:You are wrong....KV has "Brainwashed knowledge of history"...which appears to him as facts and truths while the whole world knows they are not.Rashmun wrote:Uppili is correct. KV's knowledge of history seems to be nill.Kayalvizhi wrote:>> You are demanding free Tamil Nadu based on the exact boundary drawn by the very same Brits for their administrative convenience in your own words.
NO.
Of course, you MUST know about this mental illness....
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