The last time there was a government shutdown

by Hellsangel Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:12 pm

Bill Clinton met Monica Lewinsky.

by Idéfix Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:55 pm

And the speaker lost his job.

by Hellsangel Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:18 pm

Idéfix wrote:And the speaker lost his job.

And which one is remembered better?

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:39 pm

the shutdown has negative consequences for me. still i don't want obama to cave on this. it's worth putting up a fight to uphold the principle that it is right to fund a properly passed piece of legislation. if you don't like it, then repeal it through the normal legislative process -- talk to people, get them on your side, win them over through rational arguments, and gather the requisite votes. don't act like somali pirates and hold up the country because you couldn't win legislatively.

by Idéfix Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:48 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
Idéfix wrote:And the speaker lost his job.
And which one is remembered better?

Yes, Clinton is remembered more fondly by Americans than Newt. Thanks for pointing that out.

by Idéfix Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:48 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:the shutdown has negative consequences for me. still i don't want obama to cave on this. it's worth putting up a fight to uphold the principle that it is right to fund a properly passed piece of legislation. if you don't like it, then repeal it through the normal legislative process -- talk to people, get them on your side, win them over through rational arguments, and gather the requisite votes. don't act like somali pirates and hold up the country because you couldn't win legislatively.

+1. Let the government stay closed until the GOP caves. Obama has more leverage today than he did yesterday. And he ought to use it.

by Hellsangel Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:52 pm

Idéfix wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Idéfix wrote:And the speaker lost his job.
And which one is remembered better?
Yes, Clinton is remembered more fondly by ~~Americans~~ partisan libbies than Newt. Thanks for pointing that out.

*Fixed*

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:55 pm

Idéfix wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:the shutdown has negative consequences for me. still i don't want obama to cave on this. it's worth putting up a fight to uphold the principle that it is right to fund a properly passed piece of legislation. if you don't like it, then repeal it through the normal legislative process -- talk to people, get them on your side, win them over through rational arguments, and gather the requisite votes. don't act like somali pirates and hold up the country because you couldn't win legislatively.
+1. Let the government stay closed until the GOP caves. Obama has more leverage today than he did yesterday. And he ought to use it.

if boehner puts up the senate version of the appropriations bill for a vote today it WILL pass without any problems. it's his primeval fear of the tealiban that's the source of this mess. i had forgotten that there are normal human beings in the GoP until i heard PA congressman charlie dent on NPR today.

by Idéfix Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:02 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Idéfix wrote:And the speaker lost his job.
And which one is remembered better?
Yes, Clinton is remembered more fondly by ~~Americans~~ partisan libbies than Newt. Thanks for pointing that out.
*Fixed*

Two-thirds of Americans -- 66% -- have a favorable opinion of former U.S. President Bill Clinton, tying his record-high favorability rating recorded at the time of his inauguration in January 1993.

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http://www.gallup.com/poll/156362/bill-clinton-popular.aspx

Last I checked, "partisan libbies" did not account for 66% of the American population.

by Idéfix Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:04 pm

Over 40% of Republicans have a favorable opinion of Clinton. That's more Republicans than voted for Newt in the primaries Smile

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by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:11 pm

data is a bitch.

by bw Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:17 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:data is a bitch.

hmmm.

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:26 pm

bw wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:data is a bitch.
hmmm.

touché! fair and square.

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:32 pm

language is an entrenched dick.

by garam_kuta Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:28 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:language is an entrenched dick.

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not withstanding the wussy iyer whining to come anytime soon on the 'tóuche, fair and square', this one on the devil is in the details dick is a good one, max! clap

by Hellsangel Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:37 pm

Ha ha ha. Typical management consultant tactics. Try talking to a few people who actually vote the other way.

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:17 pm

garam_kuta wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:language is an entrenched dick.
'

not withstanding the wussy iyer whining to come anytime soon on the 'tóuche, fair and square', this one on the devil is in the details dick is a good one, max!

airE, konjam edhavdhu purIramAri sollu airE! nI inglipIs ezhuthumpOthellam oru maryirum puriyala. thUkku potNu sAvalam pola kIdhu.

by Hellsangel Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:23 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:language is an entrenched dick.
'

not withstanding the wussy iyer whining to come anytime soon on the 'tóuche, fair and square', this one on the devil is in the details dick is a good one, max!
airE, konjam edhavdhu purIramAri sollu airE! nI inglipIs ezhuthumpOthellam oru maryirum puriyala. thUkku potNu sAvalam pola kIdhu.

Ha ha ha. No one else can speak kokkee-speak save kokkee and his alter ego.

by bw Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:13 pm

Idéfix wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Idéfix wrote:And the speaker lost his job.
And which one is remembered better?
Yes, Clinton is remembered more fondly by Americans than Newt. Thanks for pointing that out.

gussie fink-nottle will fancy newt more.

by garam_kuta Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:00 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:language is an entrenched dick.
'

not withstanding the wussy iyer whining to come anytime soon on the 'tóuche, fair and square', this one on the devil is in the details dick is a good one, max!
airE, konjam edhavdhu purIramAri sollu airE! nI inglipIs ezhuthumpOthellam oru maryirum puriyala. thUkku potNu sAvalam pola kIdhu.

aiyae ! idhoda! ippa kandukiniyA..nambO sonnA mAdhiriyae iyerungalai paththi penAthara somAri vantAnA..iththaithAn sonaen nainA..kandukka inimaelaeyAvadhu

athai vudu.. aamA...adhu yAru mary? puchchAkeedhu..enakum puriyalai kannu all in good spirits, i take it drunken

by garam_kuta Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:02 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:language is an entrenched dick.
'

not withstanding the wussy iyer whining to come anytime soon on the 'tóuche, fair and square', this one on the devil is in the details dick is a good one, max!
airE, konjam edhavdhu purIramAri sollu airE! nI inglipIs ezhuthumpOthellam oru maryirum puriyala. thUkku potNu sAvalam pola kIdhu.
Ha ha ha. No one else can speak kokkee-speak save kokkee and his alter ego.

and the converse, nike, adidas, bata etc., rofl

by garam_kuta Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:29 am

[quote="garam_kuta"]

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:language is an entrenched dick.
'

not withstanding the wussy iyer whining to come anytime soon on the 'tóuche, fair and square', this one on the devil is in the details dick is a good one, max!
airE, konjam edhavdhu purIramAri sollu airE! nI inglipIs ezhuthumpOthellam oru maryirum puriyala. thUkku potNu sAvalam pola kIdhu.

actually, mea culpa on the bolded -it's misleading & not meant for you ...apologies

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