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Post by confuzzled dude Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:24 pm

Some interesting ones

7. How countries compare on economic inequality
Yes, the United States has worse income inequality than Nigeria. That's according to a metric called the Palma Ratio that measures economic inequality.

15. The 17 countries that could have housing bubbles
According to a recent economic estimate, a full 17 countries could face potential housing bubbles today. Alarmingly, that includes China, the world's second-largest economy

16. The happiest and least happy countries
Some of the results are unsurprising: wealth, health, political stability and economic equality all appear to coincide with happiness. But there are some real surprises in the data. Latin America and the Caribbean are, by this measure, the happiest on average in the world.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/01/13/40-more-maps-that-explain-the-world/?hpid=z3

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Post by smArtha Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:34 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:Some interesting ones

7. How countries compare on economic inequality
Yes, the United States has worse income inequality than Nigeria. That's according to a metric called the Palma Ratio that measures economic inequality.

15. The 17 countries that could have housing bubbles
According to a recent economic estimate, a full 17 countries could face potential housing bubbles today. Alarmingly, that includes China, the world's second-largest economy

16. The happiest and least happy countries
Some of the results are unsurprising: wealth, health, political stability and economic equality all appear to coincide with happiness. But there are some real surprises in the data. Latin America and the Caribbean are, by this measure, the happiest on average in the world.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/01/13/40-more-maps-that-explain-the-world/?hpid=z3

India ranks one notch above US in terms of income inequality

India has 1.1% of slaves/bonded labor? Is that true?

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Post by confuzzled dude Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:45 pm

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India ranks one notch above US in terms of income inequality

India has 1.1% of slaves/bonded labor? Is that true?[/quote]

Yes 14 million out 30 million are in India. But the definition slavery is broad.

"There are 30 million people living today as forced laborers, forced prostitutes, child soldiers, child brides in forced marriages or other forms of property."

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Post by Hellsangel Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:52 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Yes 14 million out 30 million are in India. But the definition slavery is broad.

"There are 30 million people living today as forced laborers, forced prostitutes, child soldiers, child brides in forced marriages or other forms of property."
This is not some soft, liberal, by-modern-standards definition of slavery. This is slavery. There are 30 million people living today as forced laborers, forced prostitutes, child soldiers, child brides in forced marriages or other forms of property. There are 60,000 right here in the United States – yes, really. This map shows the proportion of each country that is enslaved. It's highest in Mauritania, a shocking four percent, due in part to social norms tolerating the practice. A little more than one percent of people in India are enslaved, which translates to 14 million Indians living as slaves today. You can see the breakdown by numbers of slaves here.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/10/17/this-map-shows-where-the-worlds-30-million-slaves-live-there-are-60000-in-the-u-s/
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Post by confuzzled dude Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:56 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Yes 14 million out 30 million are in India. But the definition slavery is broad.

"There are 30 million people living today as forced laborers, forced prostitutes, child soldiers, child brides in forced marriages or other forms of property."
This is not some soft, liberal, by-modern-standards definition of slavery. This is slavery. There are 30 million people living today as forced laborers, forced prostitutes, child soldiers, child brides in forced marriages or other forms of property. There are 60,000 right here in the United States – yes, really. This map shows the proportion of each country that is enslaved. It's highest in Mauritania, a shocking four percent, due in part to social norms tolerating the practice. A little more than one percent of people in India are enslaved, which translates to 14 million Indians living as slaves today. You can see the breakdown by numbers of slaves here.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/10/17/this-map-shows-where-the-worlds-30-million-slaves-live-there-are-60000-in-the-u-s/

If they add code coolies in the US who aren't treated that much better either to the list (ask Rishi), I'm sure that number will be even higher Razz

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Post by Hellsangel Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:06 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Yes 14 million out 30 million are in India. But the definition slavery is broad.

"There are 30 million people living today as forced laborers, forced prostitutes, child soldiers, child brides in forced marriages or other forms of property."
This is not some soft, liberal, by-modern-standards definition of slavery. This is slavery. There are 30 million people living today as forced laborers, forced prostitutes, child soldiers, child brides in forced marriages or other forms of property. There are 60,000 right here in the United States – yes, really. This map shows the proportion of each country that is enslaved. It's highest in Mauritania, a shocking four percent, due in part to social norms tolerating the practice. A little more than one percent of people in India are enslaved, which translates to 14 million Indians living as slaves today. You can see the breakdown by numbers of slaves here.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/10/17/this-map-shows-where-the-worlds-30-million-slaves-live-there-are-60000-in-the-u-s/

If they add code coolies in the US who aren't treated that much better either to the list (ask Rishi), I'm sure that number will be even higher Razz

Are you a code-coolie foreman, Comrade? Do you treat your charges well?
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Post by Seva Lamberdar Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:46 pm

The number (2) map, "How humans spread across the world" (according to the spurious Out of Africa Theory), has little basis. There is a greater chance that humans might have originated in other places and then spread around the world, including very likely originating in India and then spreading from India westward, northward and eastward.  Check out the following,
http://lamberdar.hubpages.com/hub/genetic-testing_population-migrations
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Post by Hellsangel Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:55 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:The number (2) map, "How humans spread across the world" (according to the spurious Out of Africa Theory), has little basis. There is a greater chance that humans might have originated in other places and then spread around the world, including very likely originating in India and then spreading from India westward, northward and eastward.  Check out the following,
http://lamberdar.hubpages.com/hub/genetic-testing_population-migrations

That is right, Sevaji. Even Galileo was mocked at first for his theories. One day the world will discover the truth in what you say.
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Post by truthbetold Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:49 am

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Thanks for posting these links. It is a treasure trove of data. The toilet map of India is a great indicator of the Indian development divide. I will be going through these maps few more times.

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:28 am

Hellsangel wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:The number (2) map, "How humans spread across the world" (according to the spurious Out of Africa Theory), has little basis. There is a greater chance that humans might have originated in other places and then spread around the world, including very likely originating in India and then spreading from India westward, northward and eastward.  Check out the following,
http://lamberdar.hubpages.com/hub/genetic-testing_population-migrations

That is right, Sevaji. Even Galileo was mocked at first for his theories. One day the world will discover the truth in what you say.

Yeah.  The Out of Africa Theory (claiming that humans originated in Africa and then spread to other places, based on a few findings of fossil and early human skeletal remains in Africa) is as "logical" and "firm-footed" as claiming that Shiva-linga represents Lord's phallus because it looks like a penis and some people (e.g. Hindus) venerate it.
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Post by truthbetold Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:22 am

Sevaji
vague general rejection statements do not make science. out if Africa is a widely agreed to theory. you have the responsibility to counter ire with facts if you.disagree with it. of course you can philosophically disagree without proof.

one may surmise , due to your inability to provide data, that your opposition is based on unsubstantiated religious belief system.

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Post by smArtha Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:56 pm

truthbetold wrote:one may surmise , due to your inability to provide data, that your opposition is based on unsubstantiated religious belief system.

Google : out of africa theory debunked. You'll get references. 

When it comes to history and science no find is absolute set in stone for eternity. So our inferences and extensions should always be based on the awareness of that limitation. 
Of course this is not to side with Seva whose publishings I generally ignore as I have no patience to go through the self-referential graph.

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Post by truthbetold Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:00 pm

Smartha
why do you think your remark is required is required in this discussion? is it not possible that the earlier post was made with the knowledge of the point you are making?

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Post by smArtha Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:41 pm

truthbetold wrote:Smartha
why do you think your remark is required is required in this discussion? is it not possible that the earlier post was made with the knowledge of the point you are making?

"out if Africa is a widely agreed to theory. you have the responsibility to counter ire with facts if you disagree with it."


This gave an impression you are implying there are no 'facts' to counter out-of-africa theory. If you are already aware of that then no issues. 

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:46 pm

truthbetold wrote:Sevaji
vague general rejection statements do not make science. out if Africa is a widely agreed to theory. you have the responsibility to counter ire with facts if you.disagree with it. of course you can philosophically disagree without proof.

one may surmise , due to your inability to provide data, that your opposition is based on unsubstantiated religious belief system.

TBT, it's not a religious belief system on my part to debunk the OAT (read my earlier reference ...  http://lamberdar.hubpages.com/hub/genetic-testing_population-migrations)

OAT or out of Africa theory is a kiddie science -- getting one point on the 'world' plot (corresponding to where ancient human skeletal remains were discovered / found in the barren lands of Africa), assume it to be the origin (as point 0,0) on the world plot / page and then draw arbitrary lines out of that that point (origin 0,0) as the migrational routes for humans to other places from Africa.

It's just a coincidence that the so-called "most ancient" human skeletal remains were dug up in the barren lands of Africa, where the soil might not have have been disturbed for several millennia due to lack of human activity and desert like conditons. Naturally, similar ancient human remains (at least as old that found in Africa) have not been discovered in Asia (India etc.) and Europe so far, because Asia and Europe had much human population and activity over the several millennia (more than Africa, including more agriculture and constructions etc. in Asia and Europe) leading to any ancient humans remains getting lost and destroyed there (in India etc.).

The most significant outcome of the discovery of the "ancient" human remains in Africa is that it gives the idea that humans are at least as old as the age of these remains (assessed through their carbon dating etc.), and not that humans originated in africa and moved to other places (where similar "ancient" remains have not been found so far).
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Post by Seva Lamberdar Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:49 pm

smArtha wrote:
truthbetold wrote:one may surmise , due to your inability to provide data, that your opposition is based on unsubstantiated religious belief system.

Google : out of africa theory debunked. You'll get references. 

When it comes to history and science no find is absolute set in stone for eternity. So our inferences and extensions should always be based on the awareness of that limitation. 
Of course this is not to side with Seva whose publishings I generally ignore as I have no patience to go through the self-referential graph.

Read my response to TBT and think about it
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Post by confuzzled dude Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:20 am

Hellsangel wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Yes 14 million out 30 million are in India. But the definition slavery is broad.

"There are 30 million people living today as forced laborers, forced prostitutes, child soldiers, child brides in forced marriages or other forms of property."
This is not some soft, liberal, by-modern-standards definition of slavery. This is slavery. There are 30 million people living today as forced laborers, forced prostitutes, child soldiers, child brides in forced marriages or other forms of property. There are 60,000 right here in the United States – yes, really. This map shows the proportion of each country that is enslaved. It's highest in Mauritania, a shocking four percent, due in part to social norms tolerating the practice. A little more than one percent of people in India are enslaved, which translates to 14 million Indians living as slaves today. You can see the breakdown by numbers of slaves here.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/10/17/this-map-shows-where-the-worlds-30-million-slaves-live-there-are-60000-in-the-u-s/

If they add code coolies in the US who aren't treated that much better either to the list (ask Rishi), I'm sure that number will be even higher Razz

Are you a code-coolie foreman, Comrade? Do you treat your charges well?

Nope just a lowly peon on the receiving end all the time.

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:49 am

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Sevaji
vague general rejection statements do not make science. out if Africa is a widely agreed to theory. you have the responsibility to counter ire with facts if you.disagree with it. of course you can philosophically disagree without proof.

one may surmise , due to your inability to provide data, that your opposition is based on unsubstantiated religious belief system.

TBT, it's not a religious belief system on my part to debunk the OAT (read my earlier reference ...  http://lamberdar.hubpages.com/hub/genetic-testing_population-migrations)

OAT or out of Africa theory is a kiddie science -- getting one point on the 'world' plot (corresponding to where ancient human skeletal remains were discovered / found in the barren lands of Africa), assume it to be the origin (as point 0,0) on the world plot / page and then draw arbitrary lines out of that that point (origin 0,0) as the migrational routes for humans to other places from Africa.

It's just a coincidence that the so-called "most ancient" human skeletal remains were dug up in the barren lands of Africa, where the soil might not have have been disturbed for several millennia due to lack of human activity and desert like conditons. Naturally, similar ancient human remains (at least as old that found in Africa) have not been discovered in Asia (India etc.) and Europe so far, because Asia and Europe had much human population and activity over the several millennia (more than Africa, including more agriculture and constructions etc. in Asia and Europe) leading to any ancient humans remains getting lost and destroyed there (in India etc.).

The most significant outcome of the discovery of the "ancient" human remains in Africa is that it gives the idea that humans are at least as old as the age of these remains (assessed through their carbon dating etc.), and not that humans originated in africa and moved to other places (where similar "ancient" remains have not been found so far).

So, what is the verdict --- do Smartha and TBT now agree that the Out of Africa Theory (OAT) has more holes than the Swiss cheese and therefore it has little real scientific value?

If they still have any doubts about OAT, they should at least read section (b) on OAT in the link I posted here earlier (http://lamberdar.hubpages.com/hub/genetic-testing_population-migrations)
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Post by smArtha Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:58 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:So, what is the verdict --- do Smartha and TBT now agree that the Out of Africa Theory (OAT) has more holes than the Swiss cheese and therefore it has little real scientific value?

If they still have any doubts about OAT, they should at least read section (b) on OAT in the link I posted here earlier (http://lamberdar.hubpages.com/hub/genetic-testing_population-migrations)

Firstly, I didn't support the Out of Africa theory and did alert TBT that this theory has its contestants in the serious academic/research circles. 
Lastly and this is really Ultimately, I had resolved to never make any effort to read/understand your 'self-annotated, self-referenced research blogs/works'. 
The only allowance I gave myself is to read your points in a discussion as long as they don't require me to refer to your works/blogs.
If you so much care, then I can keep you posted, if and when, I break that resolution.

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:18 pm

smArtha wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:So, what is the verdict --- do Smartha and TBT now agree that the Out of Africa Theory (OAT) has more holes than the Swiss cheese and therefore it has little real scientific value?

If they still have any doubts about OAT, they should at least read section (b) on OAT in the link I posted here earlier (http://lamberdar.hubpages.com/hub/genetic-testing_population-migrations)

Firstly, I didn't support the Out of Africa theory and did alert TBT that this theory has its contestants in the serious academic/research circles. 
Lastly and this is really Ultimately, I had resolved to never make any effort to read/understand your 'self-annotated, self-referenced research blogs/works'. 
The only allowance I gave myself is to read your points in a discussion as long as they don't require me to refer to your works/blogs.
If you so much care, then I can keep you posted, if and when, I break that resolution.

LOL. It matters little to me whether, or not, you read my blogs / writings.
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Post by truthbetold Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:16 pm

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time. i will continue the discussion when i can spend few extra minutes.

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