NI Vs SI fights

by Silly Point Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:41 pm

I have been around this forum for years and I can't understand this Fight between NI and SI...
Maybe having grown up in Hong Kong my identity was always INDIAN, not South Indian or North Indian..

So i don't get it ...

I am asking not to be funny, I am asking to understand..

by Guest Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:43 pm

when i was new here, i simply mentioned the word lungi and...

by Silly Point Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:44 pm

aaah the super comfy lungi..

and what happened?

by Guest Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:45 pm

Silly Point wrote:aaah the super comfy lungi..

and what happened?

got pages long lecture on lungi vs veshti.

by Seva Lamberdar Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:46 pm

Silly Point wrote:I have been around this forum for years and I can't understand this Fight between NI and SI...
Maybe having grown up in Hong Kong my identity was always INDIAN, not South Indian or North Indian..

So i don't get it ...

I am asking not to be funny, I am asking to understand..

If you grew up in Hong Kong, why is / was your identity always Indian, not Chineses or HongKonger?

just asking to understand..

by Silly Point Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:53 pm

i was raised to be proud of my heritage, my identity was linked to my heritage.. Identity is closed linked to your culture, i grew up with India in the house, indian food, tamil and malayalam being spoken in the house. When asked I was always from India.. I can't reject that to call myself Chinese or Hong Konger..

PS if you need a longer explanation of Identity Formation in children lemme know.. will draft something for you

PPS: the veshti on the right man.. is sexy!!

Krithi

by Guest Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:59 pm

veshti (or lungi) + hairy legs + black socks = disaster!!

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:02 pm

Tracy Whitney wrote:veshti (or lungi) + hairy legs + black socks = disaster!!

a veshti does not reveal any legs hairy or otherwise unless it is a dabbA-kattu. synthu-time:

NI Vs SI fights Veshti080210_1

by Silly Point Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:06 pm

Dabba Kutthu.. is for lungis...

Veshti madhichu katti.. is for fighting.. Mohanlal ishtyle..

Sorry just watched Jilla last night.. so am totally in the mind-set Very Happy

*sigh*
Krithi

by Guest Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:06 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:veshti (or lungi) + hairy legs + black socks = disaster!!

a veshti does not reveal any legs hairy or otherwise unless it is a dabbA-kattu. synthu-time:

what?

by Silly Point Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:07 pm

Tracy Whitney wrote:veshti (or lungi) + hairy legs + black socks = disaster!!

who wear Veshti with black socks.. that is a Fashion Disaster...

*what no to wear*

Krithi

by Guest Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:09 pm

Silly Point wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:veshti (or lungi) + hairy legs + black socks = disaster!!
who wear Veshti with black socks.. that is a Fashion Disaster...

*what no to wear*

Krithi

i mix up the two all the time. Seen pandits in the temples here, i think. But I have a bad memory.

by Silly Point Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:11 pm

here is the dubba kutthu with lungi

by Guest Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:12 pm

was googling veshti + black socks and found this pic...

(btw i might also be thinking of dhoti with hairy legs and socks - equally *shudder*)

NI Vs SI fights Ajith%2Bveeram%2Bveshti

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:13 pm

Tracy Whitney wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:veshti (or lungi) + hairy legs + black socks = disaster!!

a veshti does not reveal any legs hairy or otherwise unless it is a dabbA-kattu. synthu-time:

what?

i was attempting to do synthesis, hence synthu-time.

dabbA-kattu is a style of wearing a vEshti designed to maintain the family jewels at an optimum temperature while running the risk of giving offense by exposing hairy legs. like so:

NI Vs SI fights 11TH_MODESTY_COL_948097e

NI Vs SI fights 11TH_MODESTY_COL_948097e

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:15 pm

Silly Point wrote:
here is the dubba kutthu with lungi

you are confusing dappAnkoothu the folk dance with dabbA-kattu a style of wearing the vEshti folded up at the knees, a style popular with middle aged brahmin gents serving sAmbAr out of a bucket at mAtungA restaurants or weddings at ahObila matam (banian optional).

by Silly Point Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:16 pm

Tracy Whitney wrote:was googling veshti + black socks and found this pic...

(btw i might also be thinking of dhoti with hairy legs and socks - equally *shudder*)

*Feeling Shy*

That is my Husband Ajith.. *feeling sky*

He is Half NI and Half Palghat Iyer..
brings the whole story full circle

*sigh*
Krithi

by Silly Point Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:19 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Silly Point wrote:
here is the dubba kutthu with lungi

you are confusing dappAnkoothu the folk dance with dabbA-kattu a style of wearing the vEshti folded up at the knees, a style popular with middle aged brahmin gents serving sAmbAr out of a bucket at mAtungA restaurants or weddings at ahObila matam (banian optional).

We call it madichu Veshti.. or Kuthiya Veshti.. never heard it called dabba kattu..

*many sorries*

Krithi

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:22 pm

Silly Point wrote:
We call it madichu Veshti.. or Kuthiya Veshti.. never heard it called dabba kattu..

*many sorries*

Krithi

well you palghat sub-species always had some funny terminology. it's not mainstream though.

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:26 pm

boys these days i say:

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/modesty-of-dress-and-indian-culture/article2982283.ece

by Silly Point Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:28 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Silly Point wrote:
We call it madichu Veshti.. or Kuthiya Veshti.. never heard it called dabba kattu..

*many sorries*

Krithi

well you palghat sub-species always had some funny terminology. it's not mainstream though.

LOL... yes we do.. i think our versions sound better than the mainstream versions..

Krithi *mantunga* Iyer

Smile

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:35 pm

btw, there are certain (south?) indian words whose origin i have not been able to figure out with certainty to this day. here are a few.

the common vest undershirt called banian (buni-yan in tamil) is common everywhere, except in the north it is referred to as bunyaaan.

chaddi for underwear.

and i am going to make some tamilians cringe, the word kakkoos for toilet and also the act of toileting. in my grandparents' generation this was said with aplomb, now it has become a cringeworthy word. i have no idea where this came from.

brinjals for egglplant - presumably for aubergines.

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:43 pm

google aNNathai is telling me kakkoos is from the dutch kakhuis which came to india through the dutch east india company.

by Silly Point Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:53 pm

WikkiPidya is telling me Brinjal name has a Portuguese Origin.. maybe the Pondicherry connection...

*research is fun*

Krithi

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:56 pm

another obscure one -- till the eighties, in my mom's native village near tirunelveli a car used to be referred to as something that sounded to my ears like 'plessar'.

by Silly Point Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:57 pm

you a tirunelvelli maama huh??

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:02 pm

Silly Point wrote:you a tirunelvelli maama huh??

no no pyOOr thanjAvur only -- land of carnatic music, BN, heroic chozhans and majestic temples. tirunelveli is on mother's side.

by Silly Point Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:04 pm

so as my grandmum used to say "nee thatapuutu thanjavoor aa
Very Happy

Krithi..
*i didn't say it my ammamma did*

by FluteHolder Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:40 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:another obscure one -- till the eighties, in my mom's native village near tirunelveli a car used to be referred to as something that sounded to my ears like 'plessar'.

It refers to as 'Pleasure' indicating the joy ride may be. I remember this usage in Tirunelveli. (my dad from there and mom from Thanjavoor). On my recent travel, visited some old towns in Tirunelveli.

Since all are in for dabbankutthu songs...

by Rishi Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:45 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:veshti (or lungi) + hairy legs + black socks = disaster!!

a veshti does not reveal any legs hairy or otherwise unless it is a dabbA-kattu. synthu-time:

>>>How did this UPwallah end up wearing veshti?

by Kris Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:57 pm

Silly Point wrote:I have been around this forum for years and I can't understand this Fight between NI and SI...

>>What?! Are you questioning the very raison d'etre of this forum?

by Merlot Daruwala Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:59 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:btw, there are certain (south?) indian words whose origin i have not been able to figure out with certainty to this day. here are a few.

the common vest undershirt called banian (buni-yan in tamil) is common everywhere, except in the north it is referred to as bunyaaan.

chaddi for underwear.

and i am going to make some tamilians cringe, the word kakkoos for toilet and also the act of toileting. in my grandparents' generation this was said with aplomb, now it has become a cringeworthy word. i have no idea where this came from.

brinjals for egglplant - presumably for aubergines.

Banian is from northindian bania, but via a circuitous journey: http://amitavghosh.com/blog/?p=5101

by Silly Point Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:00 pm

Kris,
Yes I am Smile

as an iyer aatha maama can u esplain?

by Kris Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:03 pm

Silly Point wrote:Kris,
Yes I am

as an iyer aatha maama can u esplain?

>>>No, still scratching my head myself. Smile

by Silly Point Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:09 pm

haha.. so it that elusive huh?? sent you a PM ages ago did you get it??

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:10 pm

Merlot Daruwala wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:btw, there are certain (south?) indian words whose origin i have not been able to figure out with certainty to this day. here are a few.

the common vest undershirt called banian (buni-yan in tamil) is common everywhere, except in the north it is referred to as bunyaaan.

chaddi for underwear.

and i am going to make some tamilians cringe, the word kakkoos for toilet and also the act of toileting. in my grandparents' generation this was said with aplomb, now it has become a cringeworthy word. i have no idea where this came from.

brinjals for egglplant - presumably for aubergines.

Banian is from northindian bania, but via a circuitous journey: http://amitavghosh.com/blog/?p=5101

thanks! ghosh as always throwing light on obscure corners of subcontinental trivia. what a mind!

by Kris Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:12 pm

Silly Point wrote:haha.. so it that elusive huh?? sent you a PM ages ago did you get it??

>>When? During Sulekha days, before you drooped off the face of the earth? Smile

I don't remember seeing it.

by Silly Point Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:14 pm

No, last week i think? i can't expect you to remember anything from our youth Very Happy

by Kris Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:20 pm

Silly Point wrote:No, last week i think? i can't expect you to remember anything from our youth

>>oh, just saw it and responded.

by Silly Point Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:25 pm

just saw your response and responded back

Krithi

by southindian Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:57 pm

Silly Point wrote:I have been around this forum for years and I can't understand this Fight between NI and SI...
Maybe having grown up in Hong Kong my identity was always INDIAN, not South Indian or North Indian..

So i don't get it ...

I am asking not to be funny, I am asking to understand..

Southindians are the best. Southindia is only the headquarters of fixing cricket and porn, but northindia is rape center.

by Silly Point Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:21 pm

*slap*
abbe dakkan.. who asked you??

its people like you that start shyt up

I hereby revoke your south indianess.. and also your indianess

*anudder slap*

just coz

Krithi

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:30 pm

southindians go kakhuis. northindians go sandaaz.

by Guest Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:42 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:btw, there are certain (south?) indian words whose origin i have not been able to figure out with certainty to this day. here are a few.

the common vest undershirt called banian (buni-yan in tamil) is common everywhere, except in the north it is referred to as bunyaaan.

chaddi for underwear.

and i am going to make some tamilians cringe, the word kakkoos for toilet and also the act of toileting. in my grandparents' generation this was said with aplomb, now it has become a cringeworthy word. i have no idea where this came from.

brinjals for egglplant - presumably for aubergines.

Corresponding to the tamil word Kakkoos is the Hindi word Kakka although there is another ( more refined) word for the same thing and that is Pakhaana. I presume that when you say toilet or going to toilet you actually mean shitting and not pissing. For pissing the words are pishaab ( more refined) and also su-su in Hindi. In colloquial hindi another word for shitting is hagnaa, while another word for pissing is mootna.

by Guest Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:44 pm

rashmun, please tell me you had a straight face when typing all that.

by Silly Point Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:46 pm

LOL..

by Guest Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:46 pm

Tracy Whitney wrote:rashmun, please tell me you had a straight face when typing all that.

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