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Post by Guest Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:33 am

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-03-04/news/47895060_1_congress-leader-parimal-nathwani-bjp

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Post by smArtha Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:35 am

It has more information about how Ambani family had helped Congress for the last few decades than how it is helping Modi now. In your eagerness to throw any junk on anti-Modi, you seemed to have dug your pit further. Once in a while do have your postings reviewed by Diggy Raja or his aides.

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Post by Guest Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:55 am

smArtha wrote:It has more information about how Ambani family had helped Congress for the last few decades than how it is helping Modi now. In your eagerness to throw any junk on anti-Modi, you seemed to have dug your pit further. Once in a while do have your postings reviewed by Diggy Raja or his aides.

The article consists of two pages. You seem to be blabbering after having read only the first page.

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Post by smArtha Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:58 am

Rashmun wrote:
smArtha wrote:It has more information about how Ambani family had helped Congress for the last few decades than how it is helping Modi now. In your eagerness to throw any junk on anti-Modi, you seemed to have dug your pit further. Once in a while do have your postings reviewed by Diggy Raja or his aides.

The article consists of two pages. You seem to be blabbering after having read only the first page.

You can re-read both pages and figure out who is 'blabbering'. There is relatively little about how Ambani and Modi are working together but more about how Indira, Rajiv and even UPA-1 and mos tof UPA-2 ministers worked as directed by Ambani.

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Post by Guest Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:08 am

smArtha wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
smArtha wrote:It has more information about how Ambani family had helped Congress for the last few decades than how it is helping Modi now. In your eagerness to throw any junk on anti-Modi, you seemed to have dug your pit further. Once in a while do have your postings reviewed by Diggy Raja or his aides.

The article consists of two pages. You seem to be blabbering after having read only the first page.

You can re-read both pages and figure out who is 'blabbering'. There is relatively little about how Ambani and Modi are working together but more about how Indira, Rajiv and even UPA-1 and mos tof UPA-2 ministers worked as directed by Ambani.

Since you seem to have poor comprehension power I am giving some relevant extracts from the article for the benefit of people who might become misguided by your nonsense:

A key Congress strategist described why Nathwani became the lightning rod for Congress's increasing disaffection with RIL. "Reliance's orientation, right from the time of Dhirubhai was Congress...Dhirubhai was credited with helping Indira Gandhi come back to power...the company and its promoters were always seen to be close to the Congress leadership." "But Parimal changed all that", this strategist said.

According to him and other senior Congress leaders the party saw Nathwani as helping Modi at a difficult time for the Gujarat chief minister. These Congress leaders said the Reliance high official was a key adviser to Modi when legal issues stemming from a court monitored investigation into Gujarat riots were looming large.

Congress perceptions about RIL-BJP close relations grew stronger and stronger. "We understand businessmen have many friends and RIL was never anti-BJP but it's another thing when you are sharing a dais with someone and proclaiming him to be the future of the country," - a Congress said, explaining how from his party's point view evidence of Modi-Ambani closeness had been piling up within a year of Congress coming back to power...

Congress leaders see other demonstrations of Ambani's "pro-Modi stance". They complain about "media outfits financed by Ambani taking an aggressively pro-Modi stand". Mukesh Ambani's relationship with Modi is different because, as a Congress leader argued, "the RIL chief is actively supporting Modi's bid for PM". "Many business leaders praise Modi, but Ambani is helping him substantively", this leader said. "And it especially doesn't help when this election is being viewed as Modi vs Rahul."...

The Congress veteran quoted earlier said, "Rahul, unlike his father or even his grandmother, doesn't see the relevance of Ambani-type corporates in his politics." Another Congress leader said after the Radia tapes hit headlines, "Rahul and his team were surprised to see how many people were lobbying for Ambani within the government and party." "His team told him corporates have been running the government... Gandhi has never had warm relations with either of the Ambanis. He is very wary of them," this leader said. "The few meetings between Rahul and Mukesh over the last few years have been short and devoid of warmth"....

Sandeep Dikshit, Congress MP and widely seen in the party as being close to the vice-president, told ET, "Rahul's politics doesn't depend on building personal relations with corporates".

"He (Rahul Gandhi) has no personal, ideological bias against them. He isn't anti industry. He is just a bit circumspect when it comes to corporates and likes to maintain an honorable distance from them," Dikshit said.

Dikshit also gave his point of view on Ambani: "Mukesh Ambani has made his personal and political choices quite clear...it's clear who he is supporting. He isn't a Congress supporter so Kejriwal or anyone else's allegation of Congress being his "dukaan" is complete bunkum."


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Post by smArtha Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:25 am

Rashmun wrote:Since you seem to have poor comprehension power I am giving some relevant extracts from the article for the benefit of people who might become misguided by your nonsense:

A key Congress strategist described why Nathwani became the lightning rod for Congress's increasing disaffection with RIL. "Reliance's orientation, right from the time of Dhirubhai was Congress...Dhirubhai was credited with helping Indira Gandhi come back to power...the company and its promoters were always seen to be close to the Congress leadership." "But Parimal changed all that", this strategist said.

According to him and other senior Congress leaders the party saw Nathwani as helping Modi at a difficult time for the Gujarat chief minister. These Congress leaders said the Reliance high official was a key adviser to Modi when legal issues stemming from a court monitored investigation into Gujarat riots were looming large.

Congress perceptions about RIL-BJP close relations grew stronger and stronger. "We understand businessmen have many friends and RIL was never anti-BJP but it's another thing when you are sharing a dais with someone and proclaiming him to be the future of the country," - a Congress said, explaining how from his party's point view evidence of Modi-Ambani closeness had been piling up within a year of Congress coming back to power...

Congress leaders see other demonstrations of Ambani's "pro-Modi stance". They complain about "media outfits financed by Ambani taking an aggressively pro-Modi stand". Mukesh Ambani's relationship with Modi is different because, as a Congress leader argued, "the RIL chief is actively supporting Modi's bid for PM". "Many business leaders praise Modi, but Ambani is helping him substantively", this leader said. "And it especially doesn't help when this election is being viewed as Modi vs Rahul."...

The Congress veteran quoted earlier said, "Rahul, unlike his father or even his grandmother, doesn't see the relevance of Ambani-type corporates in his politics." Another Congress leader said after the Radia tapes hit headlines, "Rahul and his team were surprised to see how many people were lobbying for Ambani within the government and party." "His team told him corporates have been running the government... Gandhi has never had warm relations with either of the Ambanis. He is very wary of them," this leader said. "The few meetings between Rahul and Mukesh over the last few years have been short and devoid of warmth"....

Sandeep Dikshit, Congress MP and widely seen in the party as being close to the vice-president, told ET, "Rahul's politics doesn't depend on building personal relations with corporates".

"He (Rahul Gandhi) has no personal, ideological bias against them. He isn't anti industry. He is just a bit circumspect when it comes to corporates and likes to maintain an honorable distance from them," Dikshit said.

Dikshit also gave his point of view on Ambani: "Mukesh Ambani has made his personal and political choices quite clear...it's clear who he is supporting. He isn't a Congress supporter so Kejriwal or anyone else's allegation of Congress being his "dukaan" is complete bunkum."


Even within your 'select' and 'relevant' extracts I could highlight enough statements that gave away that Indira, Rajiv, Sonia (UPA-1 and part of UPA-2) were hand-in-glove with Ambani. The last highlighted statement also indicates that Mukesh and Rahul did have few meetings and Ambani was not impressed by the heir-incumbent and had to shift his loyalties. So much for your reading comprehension 'capabilities'

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Post by Guest Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:29 am

smArtha wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Since you seem to have poor comprehension power I am giving some relevant extracts from the article for the benefit of people who might become misguided by your nonsense:

A key Congress strategist described why Nathwani became the lightning rod for Congress's increasing disaffection with RIL. "Reliance's orientation, right from the time of Dhirubhai was Congress...Dhirubhai was credited with helping Indira Gandhi come back to power...the company and its promoters were always seen to be close to the Congress leadership." "But Parimal changed all that", this strategist said.

According to him and other senior Congress leaders the party saw Nathwani as helping Modi at a difficult time for the Gujarat chief minister. These Congress leaders said the Reliance high official was a key adviser to Modi when legal issues stemming from a court monitored investigation into Gujarat riots were looming large.

Congress perceptions about RIL-BJP close relations grew stronger and stronger. "We understand businessmen have many friends and RIL was never anti-BJP but it's another thing when you are sharing a dais with someone and proclaiming him to be the future of the country," - a Congress said, explaining how from his party's point view evidence of Modi-Ambani closeness had been piling up within a year of Congress coming back to power...

Congress leaders see other demonstrations of Ambani's "pro-Modi stance". They complain about "media outfits financed by Ambani taking an aggressively pro-Modi stand". Mukesh Ambani's relationship with Modi is different because, as a Congress leader argued, "the RIL chief is actively supporting Modi's bid for PM". "Many business leaders praise Modi, but Ambani is helping him substantively", this leader said. "And it especially doesn't help when this election is being viewed as Modi vs Rahul."...

The Congress veteran quoted earlier said, "Rahul, unlike his father or even his grandmother, doesn't see the relevance of Ambani-type corporates in his politics." Another Congress leader said after the Radia tapes hit headlines, "Rahul and his team were surprised to see how many people were lobbying for Ambani within the government and party." "His team told him corporates have been running the government... Gandhi has never had warm relations with either of the Ambanis. He is very wary of them," this leader said. "The few meetings between Rahul and Mukesh over the last few years have been short and devoid of warmth"....

Sandeep Dikshit, Congress MP and widely seen in the party as being close to the vice-president, told ET, "Rahul's politics doesn't depend on building personal relations with corporates".

"He (Rahul Gandhi) has no personal, ideological bias against them. He isn't anti industry. He is just a bit circumspect when it comes to corporates and likes to maintain an honorable distance from them," Dikshit said.

Dikshit also gave his point of view on Ambani: "Mukesh Ambani has made his personal and political choices quite clear...it's clear who he is supporting. He isn't a Congress supporter so Kejriwal or anyone else's allegation of Congress being his "dukaan" is complete bunkum."


Even within your 'select' and 'relevant' extracts I could highlight enough statements that gave away that Indira, Rajiv, Sonia (UPA-1 and part of UPA-2) were hand-in-glove with Ambani. The last highlighted statement also indicates that Mukesh and Rahul did have few meetings and Ambani was not impressed by the heir-incumbent and had to shift his loyalties. So much for your reading comprehension 'capabilities'

Even a _ should be able to make out that as per the article it was Rahul who decided to keep Ambani at a distance and not the other way round. I am astonished by your poor comprehension power.

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Post by smArtha Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:37 am

Rashmun wrote:Even a _ should be able to make out that as per the article it was Rahul who decided to keep Ambani at a distance and not the other way round. I am astonished by your poor comprehension power.

Let's see. Your comprehension power rests in nodding in agreement like a 'gangireddu' to the congress spokespersons and their spin or analysis. Mine rests in just reading the events and facts and making my own analysis. You can keep yours and I'm happy with mine. Anyone 5th grader knows that if Rahul and Ambani meet who gets to judge who?

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Post by Guest Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:41 am

smArtha wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Even a _ should be able to make out that as per the article it was Rahul who decided to keep Ambani at a distance and not the other way round. I am astonished by your poor comprehension power.

Let's see. Your comprehension power rests in nodding in agreement like a 'gangireddu' to the congress spokespersons and their spin or analysis. Mine rests in just reading the events and facts and making my own analysis. You can keep yours and I'm happy with mine. Anyone 5th grader knows that if Rahul and Ambani meet who gets to judge who?

Even a gangireddu knows that businessmen cultivate politicians because the latter can help them in various ways. This phenomenon exists all over the world. Moreover the article is explicitly saying that it was Rahul who decided to keep Ambani at a distance. So your nonsense is exposed once again.

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Post by smArtha Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:32 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Even a gangireddu knows that businessmen cultivate politicians because the latter can help them in various ways. This phenomenon exists all over the world. Moreover the article is explicitly saying that it was Rahul who decided to keep Ambani at a distance. So your nonsense is exposed once again.

Yes and we'll buy that just as we did with Rahul deciding not to be in the PM race. Please do hold on to your Gangireddu powers if they so appeal to you. We have no issues with it. Besides,  you are not the first and unfortunately will not be the last of such Congress supporters.

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Post by Guest Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:04 pm

smArtha wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Even a gangireddu knows that businessmen cultivate politicians because the latter can help them in various ways. This phenomenon exists all over the world. Moreover the article is explicitly saying that it was Rahul who decided to keep Ambani at a distance. So your nonsense is exposed once again.

Yes and we'll buy that just as we did with Rahul deciding not to be in the PM race. Please do hold on to your Gangireddu powers if they so appeal to you. We have no issues with it. Besides,  you are not the first and unfortunately will not be the last of such Congress supporters.

The article says Reliance officials were having a difficult time getting appointments from govt officials. It also mentions the fact that Murli Deora ( considered as Ambani's favorite) was removed as Petroleum Minister. It can be seen from this which one of us has Gangireddu powers.

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Post by b_A Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:18 pm

Rashmun ,
Pray that your fanboy Sidharth varadarajan doesn't come across this thread.
PS: time to recycle that gulti does ulti posts.

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Post by Guest Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:20 pm

b_A wrote:Rashmun ,
Pray that your fanboy Sidharth varadarajan doesn't come across this thread.
PS: time to recycle that gulti does ulti posts.

Are you responding to my question (which I asked you in the other thread): what is your reaction to Rahul Gandhi's claim that he will obliterate the BJP "with love"?

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