Nigerian Schoolgirls & Boko Haram - Informational

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
No one knows for sure, but many fear the worst. It's been rumored the Christian girls in the group were forced to convert to Islam. A video released this week appears to show Boko Haram's leader, Abubakar Shekau, declaring that the girls will be sold as brides -- in effect, made into sex slaves. "God instructed me to sell them; they are his properties, and I will carry out his instructions," says Shekau in the video. It's unclear when the footage was shot.
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A great opportunity for the "moderate muslims" and the apologists to rise up against their religious brethren.

Trust is running in Goodluck and Patience.

indophile wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
No one knows for sure, but many fear the worst. It's been rumored the Christian girls in the group were forced to convert to Islam. A video released this week appears to show Boko Haram's leader, Abubakar Shekau, declaring that the girls will be sold as brides -- in effect, made into sex slaves. "God instructed me to sell them; they are his properties, and I will carry out his instructions," says Shekau in the video. It's unclear when the footage was shot.
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A great opportunity for the "moderate muslims" and the apologists to rise up against their religious brethren.

Trust is running in Goodluck and Patience.

See the comments below the story. They raise some of the same questions ("where is the muslim outrage?" etc.)

confuzzled dude wrote:

indophile wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
No one knows for sure, but many fear the worst. It's been rumored the Christian girls in the group were forced to convert to Islam. A video released this week appears to show Boko Haram's leader, Abubakar Shekau, declaring that the girls will be sold as brides -- in effect, made into sex slaves. "God instructed me to sell them; they are his properties, and I will carry out his instructions," says Shekau in the video. It's unclear when the footage was shot.
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A great opportunity for the "moderate muslims" and the apologists to rise up against their religious brethren.

Trust is running in Goodluck and Patience.

See the comments below the story. They raise some of the same questions ("where is the muslim outrage?" etc.)

Were similar questions raised when US invaded Iraq?

indophile wrote:Has any "moderate muslim country" or moderate muslims in either "moderate" or "not so moderate" countries condemn this Boko Haram character and/or offer any assistance?

indophile wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
No one knows for sure, but many fear the worst. It's been rumored the Christian girls in the group were forced to convert to Islam. A video released this week appears to show Boko Haram's leader, Abubakar Shekau, declaring that the girls will be sold as brides -- in effect, made into sex slaves. "God instructed me to sell them; they are his properties, and I will carry out his instructions," says Shekau in the video. It's unclear when the footage was shot.
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A great opportunity for the "moderate muslims" and the apologists to rise up against their religious brethren.

Trust is running in Goodluck and Patience.

See the comments below the story. They raise some of the same questions ("where is the muslim outrage?" etc.)

indophile wrote:Has any "moderate muslim country" or moderate muslims in either "moderate" or "not so moderate" countries condemn this Boko Haram character and/or offer any assistance?

Idéfix wrote:

indophile wrote:Has any "moderate muslim country" or moderate muslims in either "moderate" or "not so moderate" countries condemn this Boko Haram character and/or offer any assistance?

First few links if you google your question...

http://www.lfpress.com/2014/05/06/london-muslims-condemn-nigeria-kidnappings

http://www.onislam.net/english/news/americas/472177-us-muslims-slam-un-islamic-boko-haram.html

http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/american-muslim-organizations-condemn-boko-haram/0020173

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/05/06/hey-boko-haram-pick-up-a-quran/

Idéfix wrote:

indophile wrote:Has any "moderate muslim country" or moderate muslims in either "moderate" or "not so moderate" countries condemn this Boko Haram character and/or offer any assistance?

First few links if you google your question...

http://www.lfpress.com/2014/05/06/london-muslims-condemn-nigeria-kidnappings

http://www.onislam.net/english/news/americas/472177-us-muslims-slam-un-islamic-boko-haram.html

http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/american-muslim-organizations-condemn-boko-haram/0020173

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/05/06/hey-boko-haram-pick-up-a-quran/

indophile wrote:

Idéfix wrote:

indophile wrote:Has any "moderate muslim country" or moderate muslims in either "moderate" or "not so moderate" countries condemn this Boko Haram character and/or offer any assistance?

First few links if you google your question...

http://www.lfpress.com/2014/05/06/london-muslims-condemn-nigeria-kidnappings

http://www.onislam.net/english/news/americas/472177-us-muslims-slam-un-islamic-boko-haram.html

http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/american-muslim-organizations-condemn-boko-haram/0020173

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/05/06/hey-boko-haram-pick-up-a-quran/

Good that these muslim organizations in U.S and England are saying something about it. Are there also any statements from muslims in any "moderate" or "not so moderate" muslim countries?

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

indophile wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
No one knows for sure, but many fear the worst. It's been rumored the Christian girls in the group were forced to convert to Islam. A video released this week appears to show Boko Haram's leader, Abubakar Shekau, declaring that the girls will be sold as brides -- in effect, made into sex slaves. "God instructed me to sell them; they are his properties, and I will carry out his instructions," says Shekau in the video. It's unclear when the footage was shot.
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A great opportunity for the "moderate muslims" and the apologists to rise up against their religious brethren.

Trust is running in Goodluck and Patience.

See the comments below the story. They raise some of the same questions ("where is the muslim outrage?" etc.)

Were similar questions raised when US invaded Iraq?

STICK to the current issue.

Hellsangel wrote:

indophile wrote:

Idéfix wrote:

indophile wrote:Has any "moderate muslim country" or moderate muslims in either "moderate" or "not so moderate" countries condemn this Boko Haram character and/or offer any assistance?

First few links if you google your question...

http://www.lfpress.com/2014/05/06/london-muslims-condemn-nigeria-kidnappings

http://www.onislam.net/english/news/americas/472177-us-muslims-slam-un-islamic-boko-haram.html

http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/american-muslim-organizations-condemn-boko-haram/0020173

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/05/06/hey-boko-haram-pick-up-a-quran/

Good that these muslim organizations in U.S and England are saying something about it. Are there also any statements from muslims in any "moderate" or "not so moderate" muslim countries?

England? That is London, Ontario. Britain has lost its war on radical Islam within the country a long time back.

Idéfix wrote:Google is your friend. Condemnations from Iran and OIC.

http://www.islamicinvitationturkey.com/2014/05/07/iran-condemns-abduction-of-nigerian-girls-by-the-governments-shadow-boko-haram/

http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2014/04/africa/oic-calls-for-release-of-abducted-girls-in-nigeria

Idéfix wrote:

indophile wrote:Has any "moderate muslim country" or moderate muslims in either "moderate" or "not so moderate" countries condemn this Boko Haram character and/or offer any assistance?

First few links if you google your question...

http://www.lfpress.com/2014/05/06/london-muslims-condemn-nigeria-kidnappings

http://www.onislam.net/english/news/americas/472177-us-muslims-slam-un-islamic-boko-haram.html

http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/american-muslim-organizations-condemn-boko-haram/0020173

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/05/06/hey-boko-haram-pick-up-a-quran/

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:
Were similar questions raised when US invaded Iraq?

STICK to the current issue.

you should have been used to comrade's argumentation style by now: anytime someone raises a point he doesnt agree with, his first retort is "but your side did it too back in 1851". he's a first rate moral equivalence wahabbist.

go read any of his posts and you'll see that

confuzzled dude wrote:

indophile wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
No one knows for sure, but many fear the worst. It's been rumored the Christian girls in the group were forced to convert to Islam. A video released this week appears to show Boko Haram's leader, Abubakar Shekau, declaring that the girls will be sold as brides -- in effect, made into sex slaves. "God instructed me to sell them; they are his properties, and I will carry out his instructions," says Shekau in the video. It's unclear when the footage was shot.
************

A great opportunity for the "moderate muslims" and the apologists to rise up against their religious brethren.

Trust is running in Goodluck and Patience.

See the comments below the story. They raise some of the same questions ("where is the muslim outrage?" etc.)

Were similar questions raised when US invaded Iraq?

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Idéfix wrote:Google is your friend. Condemnations from Iran and OIC.

http://www.islamicinvitationturkey.com/2014/05/07/iran-condemns-abduction-of-nigerian-girls-by-the-governments-shadow-boko-haram/

http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2014/04/africa/oic-calls-for-release-of-abducted-girls-in-nigeria

a fine joke from one of the articles quoted from the secretary general who is a saudi. Thanks for googling this fine piece:

Secretary General Iyad Ameen Madani stressed the importance of girls’ education and the role of women in Islam, and insisted that there was no excuse whatsoever for this criminal action which tarnishes the good image of Islam, a tolerant and moderate religion that rejects extremism in all its forms and manifestations.

truthbetold wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

indophile wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
No one knows for sure, but many fear the worst. It's been rumored the Christian girls in the group were forced to convert to Islam. A video released this week appears to show Boko Haram's leader, Abubakar Shekau, declaring that the girls will be sold as brides -- in effect, made into sex slaves. "God instructed me to sell them; they are his properties, and I will carry out his instructions," says Shekau in the video. It's unclear when the footage was shot.
************

A great opportunity for the "moderate muslims" and the apologists to rise up against their religious brethren.

Trust is running in Goodluck and Patience.

See the comments below the story. They raise some of the same questions ("where is the muslim outrage?" etc.)

Were similar questions raised when US invaded Iraq?

yes. have you heard of a guy named obama. Germany and French were opposed.
these are not mere paper statements but full scale policy discussions. It is another matter that opposition did not prevail.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Idéfix wrote:Google is your friend. Condemnations from Iran and OIC.

http://www.islamicinvitationturkey.com/2014/05/07/iran-condemns-abduction-of-nigerian-girls-by-the-governments-shadow-boko-haram/

http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2014/04/africa/oic-calls-for-release-of-abducted-girls-in-nigeria

a fine joke from one of the articles quoted from the secretary general who is a saudi. Thanks for googling this fine piece:

Secretary General Iyad Ameen Madani stressed the importance of girls’ education and the role of women in Islam, and insisted that there was no excuse whatsoever for this criminal action which tarnishes the good image of Islam, a tolerant and moderate religion that rejects extremism in all its forms and manifestations.

reminds me of the Madam Man Singh routines blabbering after every iSlamic bombing incident "We strongly condemn this act. Whoever is responsible will be punished according to the law. We urge everyone (read the hindus) to maintain harmony (meaning just put up with the shyt)."

Or, the typical Paki statement after every Kaboom in India "Pakistan condemns terrorism in ALL ITS form. Kashmir is the root cause of all the problems."

Idéfix wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Idéfix wrote:Google is your friend. Condemnations from Iran and OIC.

http://www.islamicinvitationturkey.com/2014/05/07/iran-condemns-abduction-of-nigerian-girls-by-the-governments-shadow-boko-haram/

http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2014/04/africa/oic-calls-for-release-of-abducted-girls-in-nigeria

a fine joke from one of the articles quoted from the secretary general who is a saudi. Thanks for googling this fine piece:

Secretary General Iyad Ameen Madani stressed the importance of girls’ education and the role of women in Islam, and insisted that there was no excuse whatsoever for this criminal action which tarnishes the good image of Islam, a tolerant and moderate religion that rejects extremism in all its forms and manifestations.

reminds me of the Madam Man Singh routines blabbering after every iSlamic bombing incident "We strongly condemn this act. Whoever is responsible will be punished according to the law. We urge everyone (read the hindus) to maintain harmony (meaning just put up with the shyt)."

Or, the typical Paki statement after every Kaboom in India "Pakistan condemns terrorism in ALL ITS form. Kashmir is the root cause of all the problems."

You guys were whining that Muslim countries don't condemn the abductions. When you see the condemnations in plain sight, you whine about other stuff.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Idéfix wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Idéfix wrote:Google is your friend. Condemnations from Iran and OIC.

http://www.islamicinvitationturkey.com/2014/05/07/iran-condemns-abduction-of-nigerian-girls-by-the-governments-shadow-boko-haram/

http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2014/04/africa/oic-calls-for-release-of-abducted-girls-in-nigeria

a fine joke from one of the articles quoted from the secretary general who is a saudi. Thanks for googling this fine piece:

Secretary General Iyad Ameen Madani stressed the importance of girls’ education and the role of women in Islam, and insisted that there was no excuse whatsoever for this criminal action which tarnishes the good image of Islam, a tolerant and moderate religion that rejects extremism in all its forms and manifestations.

reminds me of the Madam Man Singh routines blabbering after every iSlamic bombing incident "We strongly condemn this act. Whoever is responsible will be punished according to the law. We urge everyone (read the hindus) to maintain harmony (meaning just put up with the shyt)."

Or, the typical Paki statement after every Kaboom in India "Pakistan condemns terrorism in ALL ITS form. Kashmir is the root cause of all the problems."

You guys were whining that Muslim countries don't condemn the abductions. When you see the condemnations in plain sight, you whine about other stuff.

Are you saying Madam Mohan Singh-like regret statements are sufficient ?

It is fine for Thailand and India to make Condemnatory statements...

But, the OIC should go beyind routine crappy statements...

Shouldn't they be at the forefront of the condemnation, calling in an emergency meeting of the OIC, forming a task force, special commando force, Allah force, Mahamad force, etc..to rescue the girls?

So, be brave and stop defending condemnable actions by iSlamic terrorists and sympathisers. At least show vocal support for the school girls. Stop the usual diversionary tactic and defending directly/indirectly/implicitly/explicity...of the followers of say one thing - do one thing religion.

Idéfix wrote:Google is your friend. Condemnations from Iran and OIC.

http://www.islamicinvitationturkey.com/2014/05/07/iran-condemns-abduction-of-nigerian-girls-by-the-governments-shadow-boko-haram/

http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2014/04/africa/oic-calls-for-release-of-abducted-girls-in-nigeria

rawemotions wrote:Since you claim that Muslims reaction to condemn (by issuing press statements) and then sit quiet, is the standard (implicitly justifying their reaction or the lack of it thereof)

Idéfix wrote:

rawemotions wrote:Since you claim that Muslims reaction to condemn (by issuing press statements) and then sit quiet, is the standard (implicitly justifying their reaction or the lack of it thereof)

   I didn't claim that the condemnation was "standard" or even that it was "nonstandard." I just pointed out the facts to those who were complaining about the lack of Muslims' condemnation of the abductions.

b_A wrote:Finally it is the US that is stepping up to help rescue the girls and none of the other nations which issued perfunctory condemnations.

http://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-us-nigeria-20140507-story.html