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Post by Idéfix Mon May 19, 2014 11:02 pm

... who does he bestow Gujarat to? Are there any well known leaders in the state party who can fill his shoes?
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Post by Hellsangel Mon May 19, 2014 11:06 pm

Why this sudden claim of ignorance on things?

It is on the home page:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/lok-sabha-elections-2014/news/Anandiben-to-be-named-Gujarat-CM-tomorrow/articleshow/35353671.cms
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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon May 19, 2014 11:17 pm

Idéfix wrote:... who does he bestow Gujarat to? Are there any well known leaders in the state party who can fill his shoes?

are you becoming like Maulana Rashmunullah - not reading latest news?

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Post by Merlot Daruwala Tue May 20, 2014 12:39 am

Idéfix wrote:... who does he bestow Gujarat to? Are there any well known leaders in the state party who can fill his shoes?

No. Well known leaders don't exist in the Gujarat BJP. It'll be some non-entity who can never threaten Saheb, and will obediently do whatever Saheb wishes.
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Post by Propagandhi711 Tue May 20, 2014 12:47 pm

Merlot Daruwala wrote:
Idéfix wrote:... who does he bestow Gujarat to? Are there any well known leaders in the state party who can fill his shoes?

No. Well known leaders don't exist in the Gujarat BJP. It'll be some non-entity who can never threaten Saheb, and will obediently do whatever Saheb wishes.

right, well known leaders don't exist in gujarat BJP. such grassroots leaders must not be visible to globe trotting, firm wristed breastbeating kebab eaters:

http://www.india.com/loudspeaker/anandiben-patel-all-you-want-to-know-about-the-ben-who-will-take-mantle-from-narendra-modi-in-gujarat-60763/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anandiben_Patel

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Tue May 20, 2014 1:05 pm

Idéfix wrote:... who does he bestow Gujarat to? Are there any well known leaders in the state party who can fill his shoes?

maya kodnani is not out of prison yet or what?
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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue May 20, 2014 1:31 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:

right, well known leaders don't exist in gujarat BJP. such grassroots leaders must not be visible to globe trotting, firm wristed breastbeating kebab eaters:

http://www.india.com/loudspeaker/anandiben-patel-all-you-want-to-know-about-the-ben-who-will-take-mantle-from-narendra-modi-in-gujarat-60763/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anandiben_Patel

Anandiben is a vegetarian. She is known for leading a frugal lifestyle and is known for her tremendous administrative efficiency. She travels extensively across the state to meet local government officials and mentor them on execution. She is very fond of children and does not miss on any opportunity to interact or teach kids. She has two children Sanjay Patel and Anar Patel.

IMPRESSIVE.... Looks like Modi really likes people who are service-minded and those who live a frugal life (I should send him a picture of my fleet of 250K km cars).

On second thoughts, I agree this Anandiben Patel is nowhere near MT Sonia ma ji and her service to India and indian culture.

Serving villagers and school kids - hindu fundamentalist

Serving Beer as a Barmaid - secular

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Tue May 20, 2014 1:41 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:

right, well known leaders don't exist in gujarat BJP. such grassroots leaders must not be visible to globe trotting, firm wristed breastbeating kebab eaters:

http://www.india.com/loudspeaker/anandiben-patel-all-you-want-to-know-about-the-ben-who-will-take-mantle-from-narendra-modi-in-gujarat-60763/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anandiben_Patel

Anandiben is a vegetarian. She is known for leading a frugal lifestyle and is known for her tremendous administrative efficiency. She travels extensively across the state to meet local government officials and mentor them on execution. She is very fond of children and does not miss on any opportunity to interact or teach kids. She has two children Sanjay Patel and Anar Patel.

IMPRESSIVE.... Looks like Modi really likes people who are service-minded and those who live a frugal life (I should send him a picture of my fleet of 250K km cars).

On second thoughts, I agree this Anandiben Patel is nowhere near MT Sonia ma ji and her service to India and indian culture.

Serving villagers and school kids - hindu fundamentalist

Serving Beer as a Barmaid - secular

how does she compare with maya kodnani? you should send him a picture of your collection of meat cleavers. that'll impress him even more.
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Post by Propagandhi711 Tue May 20, 2014 2:09 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:

right, well known leaders don't exist in gujarat BJP. such grassroots leaders must not be visible to globe trotting, firm wristed breastbeating kebab eaters:

http://www.india.com/loudspeaker/anandiben-patel-all-you-want-to-know-about-the-ben-who-will-take-mantle-from-narendra-modi-in-gujarat-60763/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anandiben_Patel

Anandiben is a vegetarian. She is known for leading a frugal lifestyle and is known for her tremendous administrative efficiency. She travels extensively across the state to meet local government officials and mentor them on execution. She is very fond of children and does not miss on any opportunity to interact or teach kids. She has two children Sanjay Patel and Anar Patel.

IMPRESSIVE.... Looks like Modi really likes people who are service-minded and those who live a frugal life (I should send him a picture of my fleet of 250K km cars).

On second thoughts, I agree this Anandiben Patel is nowhere near MT Sonia ma ji and her service to India and indian culture.

Serving villagers and school kids - hindu fundamentalist

Serving Beer as a Barmaid - secular

how does she compare with maya kodnani? you should send him a picture of your collection of meat cleavers. that'll impress him even more.

since you portray yourself as a concerned citizen worried about the direction the country might take, why dont you take an hour of your time and listed to arnab's recent interview with modi and get a measure of the man from that, rather than this pointless discourse here trying to one up others with verbal cleverness? you know as well as most do that you have been parroting some popular opinion of modi taken from sources that are in agreement with your own prejudices without much of an understanding of who he is and what he really stands for. if you want to be flippant and indulge in standard jousting on SUCH, do it but admit that it's for entertainment, without trying to be holier than thou.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue May 20, 2014 2:55 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:

right, well known leaders don't exist in gujarat BJP. such grassroots leaders must not be visible to globe trotting, firm wristed breastbeating kebab eaters:

http://www.india.com/loudspeaker/anandiben-patel-all-you-want-to-know-about-the-ben-who-will-take-mantle-from-narendra-modi-in-gujarat-60763/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anandiben_Patel

Anandiben is a vegetarian. She is known for leading a frugal lifestyle and is known for her tremendous administrative efficiency. She travels extensively across the state to meet local government officials and mentor them on execution. She is very fond of children and does not miss on any opportunity to interact or teach kids. She has two children Sanjay Patel and Anar Patel.

IMPRESSIVE.... Looks like Modi really likes people who are service-minded and those who live a frugal life (I should send him a picture of my fleet of 250K km cars).

On second thoughts, I agree this Anandiben Patel is nowhere near MT Sonia ma ji and her service to India and indian culture.

Serving villagers and school kids - hindu fundamentalist

Serving Beer as a Barmaid - secular

how does she compare with maya kodnani? you should send him a picture of your collection of meat cleavers. that'll impress him even more.

since you portray yourself as a concerned citizen worried about the direction the country might take, why dont you take an hour of your time and listed to arnab's recent interview with modi and get a measure of the man from that, rather than this pointless discourse here trying to one up others with verbal cleverness? you know as well as most do that you have been parroting some popular opinion of modi taken from sources that are in agreement with your own prejudices without much of an understanding of who he is and what he really stands for. if you want to be flippant and indulge in standard jousting on SUCH, do it but admit that it's for entertainment, without trying to be holier than thou.

remember one thing - very clearly:

White people are superior and a dark chaiwala and a dark old primary school teacher lack credibility and their words count 1/10 of white people.

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Post by Idéfix Tue May 20, 2014 3:30 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:since you portray yourself as a concerned citizen worried about the direction the country might take, why dont you take an hour of your time and listed to arnab's recent interview with modi and get a measure of the man from that, rather than this pointless discourse here trying to one up others with verbal cleverness? you know as well as most do that you have been parroting some popular opinion of modi taken from sources that are in agreement with your own prejudices without much of an understanding of who he is and what he really stands for. if you want to be flippant and indulge in standard jousting on SUCH, do it but admit that it's for entertainment, without trying to be holier than thou.
Ah, the irony of you preaching data-driven opinion-formation to others!

Who Modi is, and what he really stands for, are both clear from his actions during and after the carnage in Gujarat. An interview with Arnab Goswami where he doesn't squarely address his role during and after the riots does nothing to change that. His performance during the riots was bad enough that the Prime Minister from his own party considered replacing him. After the riots, he deliberately exploited the communal polarization by going on a "Gaurav Yatra" where he performed incredible feats in the management of cognitive dissonance: denying in one place that riots had occurred at all, praising the rioters implicitly in another, and blaming the carnage variously on the Muslims, media, Congress, and Pakistan. It is by tacitly portraying himself as a protector of the rioters that he won the 2002 election after the riots. He then went on to elevate known ringleaders of the riots to his cabinet. He refused to visit relief camps for the victims, and called them "children producing centers." It is by targeting Muslims as bogeymen in his political speeches that he burnished his credentials as the macho leader of Hindus engaged in a fight-to-the-finish with Muslims. He has steadfastly refused to express any contrition for the carnage on his watch, beyond saying he is saddened even when a puppy dies.

These are some facts about the man. You may like the man either despite these facts, or precisely because of these facts. But these facts do form a reasonable basis for reservations about entrusting him with more power. The interview with Goswami does nothing to address those reservations.
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Post by Hellsangel Tue May 20, 2014 3:37 pm

Idéfix wrote:

Who Modi is, and what he really stands for, are both clear from his actions during and after the carnage in Gujarat.

Yes. And he and his party won a massively rigged election in one of the most non-democratic places in the world.
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Post by Idéfix Tue May 20, 2014 3:47 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
Idéfix wrote:

Who Modi is, and what he really stands for, are both clear from his actions during and after the carnage in Gujarat.  

Yes. And he and his party won a massively rigged election in one of the most non-democratic places in the world.
No, he won a free and fair election in a democratic setup. Some voters may have liked Modi despite these facts, some because of these facts, and some were simply voting against the Congress. Winning elections does not absolve people of responsibility for their actions prior to the election.
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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Tue May 20, 2014 7:50 pm

yeah i really don't understand why successfully competing in elections is proof of anything other than having successfully negotiated a popularity contest. can you say dubya?
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Post by Merlot Daruwala Tue May 20, 2014 8:07 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:

right, well known leaders don't exist in gujarat BJP. such grassroots leaders must not be visible to globe trotting, firm wristed breastbeating kebab eaters:

http://www.india.com/loudspeaker/anandiben-patel-all-you-want-to-know-about-the-ben-who-will-take-mantle-from-narendra-modi-in-gujarat-60763/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anandiben_Patel

Anandiben is a vegetarian. She is known for leading a frugal lifestyle and is known for her tremendous administrative efficiency. She travels extensively across the state to meet local government officials and mentor them on execution. She is very fond of children and does not miss on any opportunity to interact or teach kids. She has two children Sanjay Patel and Anar Patel.

IMPRESSIVE.... Looks like Modi really likes people who are service-minded and those who live a frugal life (I should send him a picture of my fleet of 250K km cars).

On second thoughts, I agree this Anandiben Patel is nowhere near MT Sonia ma ji and her service to India and indian culture.

Serving villagers and school kids - hindu fundamentalist

Serving Beer as a Barmaid - secular

Its disgraceful that such a highly qualified, well known, popular, grassroots leader is being resisted by those undeserving ingrates in the state BJP unit: http://sp.m.timesofindia.com/general-elections-2014/more-stories/Modi-protege-and-Gujarat-CM-pick-Anandiben-faces-revolt/articleshow/35401773.cms
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Post by Idéfix Tue May 20, 2014 9:26 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:yeah i really don't understand why successfully competing in elections is proof of anything other than having successfully negotiated a popularity contest. can you say dubya?
This much was clear to HA when it came to Obama's election victories -- in which, by the way, a majority of voters actively chose Obama -- but the concept somehow eludes him when it comes to this situation.
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Post by Hellsangel Tue May 20, 2014 9:37 pm

Idéfix wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:yeah i really don't understand why successfully competing in elections is proof of anything other than having successfully negotiated a popularity contest. can you say dubya?
This much was clear to HA when it came to Obama's election victories -- in which, by the way, a majority of voters actively chose Obama -- but the concept somehow eludes him when it comes to this situation.
Maybe you Libbies should wait to see what Modi does as PM before you get all too excited.
Maybe Modi will turn out just like Obama. Great at campaigns - poor at governance. Time will tell.
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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Tue May 20, 2014 9:48 pm

i also don't understand this wait and see prescription for those of us who don't like modi. we don't like him based on the known facts of his political career thus far. that doesn't depend on what he is about to accomplish or screw up from this point forward.

i don't remember people who were opposed to him (on this board) remaining silent and waiting to see how obama got on with his job after he was elected.
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Post by Hellsangel Tue May 20, 2014 9:57 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:i also don't understand this wait and see prescription for those of us who don't like modi. we don't like him based on the known facts of his political career thus far. that doesn't depend on what he is about to accomplish or screw up from this point forward.

i don't remember people who were opposed to him (on this board) remaining silent and waiting to see how obama got on with his job after he was elected.

Boo hoo then! If Modi doesn't do well, the Indian voters will vote the family back in. Until then carp away.

PS: I can see the Libby motto - Carp away diem.
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Post by Guest Wed May 21, 2014 7:25 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Idéfix wrote:... who does he bestow Gujarat to? Are there any well known leaders in the state party who can fill his shoes?

maya kodnani is not out of prison yet or what?
I think she got 26 yrs in prison. Not like Jagadish Tytler, H.K.L Bhagat, etc who went scot-free, and worse, were in power for years, supported and protected by Rajiv Gandhi.

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