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Post by Guest Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:40 pm

NEW DELHI: Yellapragada Sudershan Rao, the new chairperson of Indian Council of Historical Research, is an active member of Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh's Akhil Bharatiya Itihas Sankalan Yojana and heads its Andhra Pradesh chapter. He is currently involved in a project that would fix the date of Mahabharata war.

Rao who taught at Kakatiya University, Warrangal is an expert on ancient Indian culture and heritage with special reference to the history of Hindu religion, religious and social history of South and South East Asia. Rao is currently involved with Mahabharata Project, sponsored by Sanathana Dharma Charitable Trust, that critically examines the Puranas and Itihasas to trace the history of religion, dharma and culture of South Asia from Vedic times to the beginnings of historical period. Under the Mahabharata project, puranic genealogies are being studied. Rao's bio-data says, "Considering the Mahabharata War as the sheet anchor for the History of Bharat, an attempt is made in this project to review the original sources- Astronomical, Puranic and Historical - for fixing the Date of the War."

Another research project he is involved is 'Project India' sponsored by the Sivanandaguru Educational and Cultural Trust, Warangal and plans to document visual and literary sources on major sites of religious and historical significance as original source material for further research. ·Rao is also working on Tribal Research Project sponsored by Bharatheeya Itihasa Sankalana Samithi, Hyderabad to document the culture and beliefs of Chenchus, Koyas and Gonds.

Akhil Bharatiya Itihas Sankalan Yojana started in 1978 is the brainchild of RSS leader Babasaheb Apte and Moropant Pingle. The idea behind the project is to write history from nationalist perspective and popularize Sanskrit. Operating out of RSS Keshav Kunj office in Delhi, ABISY is working on Saraswati project as well as various aspects of ancient and medieval Indian history. Historians from many universities are part of this project.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/RSS-man-will-head-historical-research-body/articleshow/37673645.cms?prtpage=1

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Post by truthbetold Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:32 pm

Rash
intolerant people like you make scientific discovery difficult.
he is heading a professional outfit and he is obviously acceptable to its members. let him publish mahabharat dates. he is funded by non govt sources.
now if you have your side strong enough go get funding to prove Mahabharata never happened and refute other side arguments with logical arguments.
All you do is whining about other peoples legitimate activities.

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:37 pm

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Akhil Bharatiya Itihas Sankalan Yojana started in 1978 is the brainchild of RSS leader Babasaheb Apte and Moropant Pingle. The idea behind the project is to write history from nationalist perspective and popularize Sanskrit.

That will undermine your popularization of Urdu and Farsi.
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:40 pm

truthbetold wrote:Rash
intolerant people like you make scientific discovery difficult.
he is heading a professional outfit and he is obviously acceptable to its members. let him publish mahabharat dates. he is funded by non govt sources.
now if you have your side strong enough go get funding to prove Mahabharata never happened and refute other side arguments with logical arguments.
All you do is whining about other peoples legitimate activities.

it is a complete waste of money. For instance, modern scholars place the Rig Veda to have been composed around circa 1400 BC. But the chaddi scholars place the Rig Veda at anywhere between 30,000 BC and 10,000 BC. No serious historian outside India takes chaddi scholarship seriously.
So many people in India are going without food, and here we are wasting money in assigning erroneous dates to historical texts.

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:41 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

Akhil Bharatiya Itihas Sankalan Yojana started in 1978 is the brainchild of RSS leader Babasaheb Apte and Moropant Pingle. The idea behind the project is to write history from nationalist perspective and popularize Sanskrit.

That will undermine your popularization of Urdu and Farsi.

rubbish. i have always promoted sanskrit.

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:43 pm

truthbetold wrote:Rash
intolerant people like you make scientific discovery difficult.
he is heading a professional outfit and he is obviously acceptable to its members. let him publish mahabharat dates. he is funded by non govt sources.
now if you have your side strong enough go get funding to prove Mahabharata never happened and refute other side arguments with logical arguments.
All you do is whining about other peoples legitimate activities.

His effort on dating the River Saraswati (as to when it actually flowed last time) makes a lot of sense in scientific terms and will be important to "determine" the age of the Vedas  ("how old are the vedas and who can read them" in https://such.forumotion.com/t24460-my-blogs-on-indology-vedas-and-caste-system )
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Post by rawemotions Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:50 pm

truthbetold wrote:Rash
intolerant people like you make scientific discovery difficult.
he is heading a professional outfit and he is obviously acceptable to its members. let him publish mahabharat dates. he is funded by non govt sources.
now if you have your side strong enough go get funding to prove Mahabharata never happened and refute other side arguments with logical arguments.
All you do is whining about other peoples legitimate activities.
There has already been some background research by interested individuals.
Please read this, where Mahabharata text has been dated scientifically
http://news.rediff.com/slide-show/2009/aug/29/slide-show-1-lord-krishna-existed.htm

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/drishtikone/2009/08/krishna-and-mahabharat-historical-reality/

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Post by truthbetold Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:24 pm

Rashmun wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Rash
intolerant people like you make scientific discovery difficult.
he is heading a professional outfit and he is obviously acceptable to its members. let him publish mahabharat dates. he is funded by non govt sources.
now if you have your side strong enough go get funding to prove Mahabharata never happened and refute other side arguments with logical arguments.
All you do is whining about other peoples legitimate activities.

it is a complete waste of money. For instance, modern scholars place the Rig Veda to have been composed around circa 1400 BC. But the chaddi scholars place the Rig Veda at anywhere between 30,000 BC and 10,000 BC. No serious historian outside India takes chaddi scholarship seriously.
So many people in India are going without food, and here we are wasting money in assigning erroneous dates to historical texts.
complete waste of whose money? what are your credentials to decide what is historically accurate?
the simple point is you have no leg to stand on this issue.
you can argue with those who fund these projects but you need to polish your argues better than chaddi philosophy.

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Post by Kayalvizhi Thu Jul 03, 2014 6:06 pm

Sanskrit propagation precedes BJP


In addition to promoting Hindi, Doordharshan and Akashvani (All India Radio) also promote Sanskrit, which many Hindi speakers consider as the mother of Hindi. There was a 15 minutes radio news bulletin in Sanskrit everyday in Akashvani (All India Radio). From 2002 onwards, Doordarshan broadcasts a five-minute television news bulletin in Sanskrit daily on the national channel (The Hindu newspaper - August 22, 2002).
What is the purpose of broadcasting a Sanskrit news bulletin nationally when no language other than English and Hindi has national news broadcasts? Why waste 15 minutes of radio time or 5 minutes of television (TV) time nationally to broadcast in Sanskrit known to less than 500,000 people (1991 Census) out of some one billion people of India? No national broadcast in Bengali that is understood by 70,000,000 or so people, no national broadcast in Telugu that is also understood by about 70,000,000 people. Then why in Sanskrit? Because Indian government that is dominated by Hindi politicians want to promote Sanskrit.
Not only Sanskrit is

 propagated within India but it is also broadcast all over the world. DD India is an Indian satellite television channel run by Doordharsan for Indians living abroad. This channel carries news bulletins in Sanskrit. How many Indians living abroad watch Sanskrit news?

http://www.tamiltribune.com/14/0501.html

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:53 am

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Rash
intolerant people like you make scientific discovery difficult.
he is heading a professional outfit and he is obviously acceptable to its members. let him publish mahabharat dates. he is funded by non govt sources.
now if you have your side strong enough go get funding to prove Mahabharata never happened and refute other side arguments with logical arguments.
All you do is whining about other peoples legitimate activities.

His effort on dating the River Saraswati (as to when it actually flowed last time) makes a lot of sense in scientific terms and will be important to "determine" the age of the Vedas  ("how old are the vedas and who can read them" in https://such.forumotion.com/t24460-my-blogs-on-indology-vedas-and-caste-system )


Besides finding the Vedic origins through Saraswati dating (as indicated above), there are other academic / scientific considerations for finding about the final days and drying up of the river Sarawati.

It will not only yield clues about the drying of Saraswati (when and how and whether slowly over time or suddenly and quickly), but it also may shed light about the future of current rivers.

That naturally will be beneficial in taking proactive steps to avoid the demise of these natural resources of water.

Incidentally, as I had mentioned quite a while back on the Sulekha, a story in a Purana indicates that the demise / drying up and subsequent disappearance of Saraswati was rather quick (implying that there must have been a huge natural disaster in the area before that, leading the river to dry up and disappear rather quickly over just a few decades perhaps).


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Post by Guest Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:55 am

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Rash
intolerant people like you make scientific discovery difficult.
he is heading a professional outfit and he is obviously acceptable to its members. let him publish mahabharat dates. he is funded by non govt sources.
now if you have your side strong enough go get funding to prove Mahabharata never happened and refute other side arguments with logical arguments.
All you do is whining about other peoples legitimate activities.

His effort on dating the River Saraswati (as to when it actually flowed last time) makes a lot of sense in scientific terms and will be important to "determine" the age of the Vedas  ("how old are the vedas and who can read them" in https://such.forumotion.com/t24460-my-blogs-on-indology-vedas-and-caste-system )


Besides finding the Vedic origins through Saraswati dating (as indicated above), there are other academic / scientific considerations for finding about the final days and drying up of the river Sarawati.

It will not only yield clues about the drying of Saraswati (when and how and whether slowly over time or suddenly and quickly), but it also may shed light about the future of current rivers.

That naturally will be beneficial in taking proactive steps to avoid the demise of these natural resources of water.

Incidentally, as I had mentioned quite a while back on the Sulekha, a story in a Purana indicates that the demise / drying up and subsequent disappearance of Saraswati was rather quick (implying that there must have been a huge natural disaster in the area before that, leading the river to dry up rather quickly over just a few decades perhaps).

I am sure the starving millions of India are grateful to the 'intellectuals' who are doing this kind of 'fact based' and 'result oriented' research.

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:04 am

Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Rash
intolerant people like you make scientific discovery difficult.
he is heading a professional outfit and he is obviously acceptable to its members. let him publish mahabharat dates. he is funded by non govt sources.
now if you have your side strong enough go get funding to prove Mahabharata never happened and refute other side arguments with logical arguments.
All you do is whining about other peoples legitimate activities.

His effort on dating the River Saraswati (as to when it actually flowed last time) makes a lot of sense in scientific terms and will be important to "determine" the age of the Vedas  ("how old are the vedas and who can read them" in https://such.forumotion.com/t24460-my-blogs-on-indology-vedas-and-caste-system )


Besides finding the Vedic origins through Saraswati dating (as indicated above), there are other academic / scientific considerations for finding about the final days and drying up of the river Sarawati.

It will not only yield clues about the drying of Saraswati (when and how and whether slowly over time or suddenly and quickly), but it also may shed light about the future of current rivers.

That naturally will be beneficial in taking proactive steps to avoid the demise of these natural resources of water.

Incidentally, as I had mentioned quite a while back on the Sulekha, a story in a Purana indicates that the demise / drying up and subsequent disappearance of Saraswati was rather quick (implying that there must have been a huge natural disaster in the area before that, leading the river to dry up rather quickly over just a few decades perhaps).

I am sure the starving millions of India are grateful to the 'intellectuals' who are doing this kind of 'fact based' and 'result oriented' research.

This type of research is one way to make sure that the current resources of water (especially the rivers and lakes) don't die and disappear and that certainly will reduce the possibility of starvations (among humans, animals and vegetation) due to shortage of water.
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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:27 pm

Instead of wasting time on Mahabharata, Modi should concentrate on spreading the word on Aurangazeb's contributions to sikular peace and harmony, Thuglak's involvement in building new capitals, MT's strategic moves on AP to make Pappu the PM, and Rashmun's scholarly efforts to facilitate Hindu-men "doing H-M synthesis" with Muslim women while Mullahs watch and fume.

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Post by Guest Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:54 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Instead of wasting time on Mahabharata, Modi should concentrate on spreading the word on Aurangazeb's contributions to sikular peace and harmony, Thuglak's involvement in building new capitals, MT's strategic moves on AP to make Pappu the PM, and Rashmun's scholarly efforts to facilitate Hindu-men "doing H-M synthesis" with Muslim women while Mullahs watch and fume.

Vakavaka please share your views on the Gujju vs Gujju thread. Thanks.

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