Andhra Capital - not a single place suitable?

by indophile Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:02 am

Vijayawada - Guntur have seismic problems (26 faults in 300 km radius, which includes Donakonda), and in addition Amaravati has "Vastu" problems (I don't understand how a 30,000 acre area can have a vastu problem). Kurnool is in Rayaseema. If you think Vizag is the only place left ..... wrong! It is exposed to Bay of Bengal cyclones. Any recommendations other than these places? Of course, the usual rules apply - no valuable agricultural land gets disturbed, should be in the coastal area (not Rayalaseema), on high ground with no water problem, no forests touched, lot of free government land, etc., etc.

by truthbetold Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:20 am

Nuzvid , krishna dt has lot of govt land and close to water.
seismic - when wad the last time gunter had a earthquake?

by b_A Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:40 am

indophile wrote:Vijayawada - Guntur have seismic problems (26 faults in 300 km radius, which includes Donakonda), and in addition Amaravati has "Vastu" problems (I don't understand how a 30,000 acre area can have a vastu problem). Kurnool is in Rayaseema. If you think Vizag is the only place left ..... wrong! It is exposed to Bay of Bengal cyclones. Any recommendations other than these places? Of course, the usual rules apply - no valuable agricultural land gets disturbed, should be in the coastal area (not Rayalaseema), on high ground with no water problem, no forests touched, lot of free government land, etc., etc.

Did anybody ever hear about a major earthquake anywhere in Andhra in the past 200-300 years?

by smArtha Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:53 am

indophile wrote:Vijayawada - Guntur have seismic problems (26 faults in 300 km radius, which includes Donakonda), and in addition Amaravati has "Vastu" problems (I don't understand how a 30,000 acre area can have a vastu problem). Kurnool is in Rayaseema. If you think Vizag is the only place left ..... wrong! It is exposed to Bay of Bengal cyclones. Any recommendations other than these places? Of course, the usual rules apply - no valuable agricultural land gets disturbed, should be in the coastal area (not Rayalaseema), on high ground with no water problem, no forests touched, lot of free government land, etc., etc.

ecapital

. All secretariat officials can work from home and so do ministers. They can build a few mulit-media conference halls in various towns and cities and meet as needed.

by indophile Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:22 pm

b_A wrote:
indophile wrote:Vijayawada - Guntur have seismic problems (26 faults in 300 km radius, which includes Donakonda), and in addition Amaravati has "Vastu" problems (I don't understand how a 30,000 acre area can have a vastu problem). Kurnool is in Rayaseema. If you think Vizag is the only place left ..... wrong! It is exposed to Bay of Bengal cyclones. Any recommendations other than these places? Of course, the usual rules apply - no valuable agricultural land gets disturbed, should be in the coastal area (not Rayalaseema), on high ground with no water problem, no forests touched, lot of free government land, etc., etc.
Did anybody ever hear about a major earthquake anywhere in Andhra in the past 200-300 years?

Data don't matter. People interested in one place spread some negative news about the other place and scare everybody into inaction. Someone should broadcast that all these so called negative things can be neutralized by appropriate tailor made pujas/yagas. That will at least get some poor people gainfully employed for a few weeks.

by indophile Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:27 pm

truthbetold wrote:Nuzvid , krishna dt has lot of govt land and close to water.
seismic - when wad the last time gunter had a earthquake?

Spreading news that Krishna - Guntur is a seismic risk area is to take the central location requirement out of reckoning. I think the rumor mongers are having a field day. Naidu should quickly make a decision on the location, and live with it. No place is a 100% safe bet. Otherwise, every place will be rendered unsuitable, and e-capital will be the only option.

by Vakavaka Pakapaka Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:45 pm

Jubilee Hills and Banjara Hills are in an earth quake zone! All Andhrawalen should either bhaag form there or pay earth quake "insurance" to Kavitakka.

Cyclones are more common than earth quakes. So, let us eliminate the 30 mile wide belt along the coast. Build the capital close to a river where there is a lot of govt. land. AP families have relatives living close to San Andreas fault. They can advise CBN on how to build earth quake proof buildings (like in San Francisco & LA) for the capital.

I like SmArtha's idea. Do they really need a huge capital? Why can't they just build three state of the art conference centers (one in Vizag, one in Amaravati and one in Tirupati) that can be rented out for international conferences, etc., and also used for govt. activities. Since CBN is thinking of linking all villages, govt. can function with home offices, secure networks, etc.

by smArtha Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:03 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
I like SmArtha's idea. Do they really need a huge capital? Why can't they just build three state of the art conference centers (one in Vizag, one in Amaravati and one in Tirupati) that can be rented out for international conferences, etc., and also used for govt. activities. Since CBN is thinking of linking all villages, govt. can function with home offices, secure networks, etc.

And people/business reps should be able to log on from their home or work or nearest cyber cafe or panchayat office or school or post-office or any other well-connected Govt establishment.
a) make requests - applications or petitions and followup status of their requests, escalate or leave feedback on serviced/not serviced requests
b) schedule e-conf appointments with the officers or secretaries or even ministers
c) hold meetings via audio/chat/video/webex the concerned party at the prior scheduled time
d) optionally record minutes of the meeting - text/audio/video
e) .. and much more.
This direction is both futuristic and helps in automatic/efficient record keeping as well as reduces red tape and corruption. Both RTI and Lokpal can be very effectively enforced with such an e-Governance in place.

PS: My interactions with the State Govts in India are limited. So if there are more use cases and ways people interact with the Govt. we can find a suitable solution too.

by Vakavaka Pakapaka Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:44 pm

smArtha wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
I like SmArtha's idea. Do they really need a huge capital? Why can't they just build three state of the art conference centers (one in Vizag, one in Amaravati and one in Tirupati) that can be rented out for international conferences, etc., and also used for govt. activities. Since CBN is thinking of linking all villages, govt. can function with home offices, secure networks, etc.

And people/business reps should be able to log on from their home or work or nearest cyber cafe or panchayat office or school or post-office or any other well-connected Govt establishment.
a) make requests - applications or petitions and followup status of their requests, escalate or leave feedback on serviced/not serviced requests
b) schedule e-conf appointments with the officers or secretaries or even ministers
c) hold meetings via audio/chat/video/webex the concerned party at the prior scheduled time
d) optionally record minutes of the meeting - text/audio/video
e) .. and much more.
This direction is both futuristic and helps in automatic/efficient record keeping as well as reduces red tape and corruption. Both RTI and Lokpal can be very effectively enforced with such an e-Governance in place.

PS: My interactions with the State Govts in India are limited. So if there are more use cases and ways people interact with the Govt. we can find a suitable solution too.

Great!

Why don't you email to CBN?

by b_A Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:53 pm

smArtha wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
I like SmArtha's idea. Do they really need a huge capital? Why can't they just build three state of the art conference centers (one in Vizag, one in Amaravati and one in Tirupati) that can be rented out for international conferences, etc., and also used for govt. activities. Since CBN is thinking of linking all villages, govt. can function with home offices, secure networks, etc.

And people/business reps should be able to log on from their home or work or nearest cyber cafe or panchayat office or school or post-office or any other well-connected Govt establishment.
a) make requests - applications or petitions and followup status of their requests, escalate or leave feedback on serviced/not serviced requests
b) schedule e-conf appointments with the officers or secretaries or even ministers
c) hold meetings via audio/chat/video/webex the concerned party at the prior scheduled time
d) optionally record minutes of the meeting - text/audio/video
e) .. and much more.
This direction is both futuristic and helps in automatic/efficient record keeping as well as reduces red tape and corruption. Both RTI and Lokpal can be very effectively enforced with such an e-Governance in place.

PS: My interactions with the State Govts in India are limited. So if there are more use cases and ways people interact with the Govt. we can find a suitable solution too.

Usually , common man needs to interact only with registrations and DMV/RTO offices of the state govt. And these offices are in every district. Only people who have to visit the capital city are the state govt employees from the districts and contractors/businessmen.

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