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Post by indophile Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:13 am

This time it's land survey. For the recently concluded people survey, it was easy - print forms, fix a day, send people (called "enumerators"), get the questonaire filled, may be feed the papers into scantron, and let the machine spit out out the tables. But land survey requires surveyors (skilled people) to cover all the ten districts (couple of them as big as some states in the country), survey every itty-bitty plot, compare what's on the ground with what came up on survey, and then send bulldozers. It's not going to be a one day affair like the people survey. 

 http://www.deccanchronicle.com/140822/nation-current-affairs/article/land-survey-telangana-after-diwali

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Post by swapna Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:46 am

indophile wrote:This time it's land survey. For the recently concluded people survey, it was easy - print forms, fix a day, send people (called "enumerators"), get the questonaire filled, may be feed the papers into scantron, and let the machine spit out out the tables. But land survey requires surveyors (skilled people) to cover all the ten districts (couple of them as big as some states in the country), survey every itty-bitty plot, compare what's on the ground with what came up on survey, and then send bulldozers. It's not going to be a one day affair like the people survey. 

 http://www.deccanchronicle.com/140822/nation-current-affairs/article/land-survey-telangana-after-diwali
If the survey needs to be redone, will the "enumerators" become "renumerators?"
will they then receive renumeration or remuneration for their work?

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:54 am

It seems whoever came up with this scheme had no idea about what the land survey involves and how messy it can get.
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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:45 am

This is one of the things he promised before the election.

KCR has promised to take jobs away from Seemandhra people and give to Telangana people. He promised to get back "illegal" properties of Seemandhra people in Hyderabad. He promised to empty educational institutions in Telangana of Seemandhra students and teachers. He promised houses for slum dwellers in Hyderabad. He promised free electricity to farmers.

People of Telangana will turn against him if he doesn't fulfill these promises. He is stuck.

KCR will be in trouble as he can't really fulfill his promises. Also, the other TRS leaders are not happy that only KCR's family is making most of the money. Some of them will soon turn against him.

Pittala Dora will be a one term CM. He is in a race to make more money than Jagan in the next 2-3 years.

Carvaka should start giving some good advice to KCR, KTR and Kavitakka :-).

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Post by Kayalvizhi Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:48 am

It is our position that outsiders should not be allowed to buy land in Tamil Nadu.

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Post by Hellsangel Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:53 am

Kayalvizhi wrote:It is our position that outsiders should not be allowed to buy land in Tamil Nadu.

You and your other ID, Trollus?
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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:54 am

Kayalvizhi wrote:It is our position that outsiders should not be allowed to buy land in Tamil Nadu.
So, are you going to throw out Rajnikanth, Ammaa, Madurai Mudaliars, Tanjavur Nayakas, 2/3rd of Coimbatore population, 1/3rd of Kanchi-Vellore-Rajapet population, 1/3rd of Madras population, 1/2 of Hosur population.......... ?

Good luck!

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Post by indophile Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:17 am

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:This is one of the things he promised before the election.

KCR has promised to take jobs away from Seemandhra people and give to Telangana people. He promised to get back "illegal" properties of Seemandhra people in Hyderabad. He promised to empty educational institutions in Telangana of Seemandhra students and teachers. He promised houses for slum dwellers in Hyderabad. He promised free electricity to farmers.

People of Telangana will turn against him if he doesn't fulfill these promises. He is stuck.

KCR will be in trouble as he can't really fulfill his promises. Also, the other TRS leaders are not happy that only KCR's family is making most of the money. Some of them will soon turn against him.

Pittala Dora will be a one term CM. He is in a race to make more money than Jagan in the next 2-3 years.

Carvaka should start giving some good advice to KCR, KTR and Kavitakka :-).
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raaju kalankamoourti = Moon with his spot can be called a king (of the night); ratiraaju Sareera viheenudu = Manmatha is the king of love with no body of his own; ambikaaraaju digambarudu = King of Ambika (husband of Parvati) wears no clothes; mRgaraaju guhaantaramoorti = the king of beasts, lion, roams outside his cave; vibhraajita poosapaadvijayaraama nRpaaludu raaju kaaka = is it not true that Poosapati Vijayaraama Raju is (also) the real king?; ee raajulu raajulaa? = are these raajus (those in his court) really kshatriyaas? Penutaraajulu kaaka dharaatalambunan = aren’t they simply kings of dirt and trash (penta) in this world (i.e., don't they live on agriculture than fighting for the good)?


Adidam Surakavi came up with this poem extempore in Poosapati Vijayaramaraju’s court, and it was his satire on those in the court with big mustaches who claimed to be kashatriyas. When they drew their swords to hurt the poet, the poet said he was only comparing the presiding king with those pauranic characters and simply elevated the king. The king was pleased with his samayasphoorti and ordered a kanakaabhishekam for the poet right then and there. 

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Post by Kayalvizhi Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:22 am

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Kayalvizhi wrote:It is our position that outsiders should not be allowed to buy land in Tamil Nadu.
So, are you going to throw out Rajnikanth, Ammaa, Madurai Mudaliars, Tanjavur Nayakas, 2/3rd of Coimbatore population, 1/3rd of Kanchi-Vellore-Rajapet population, 1/3rd of Madras population, 1/2 of Hosur population.......... ?

Good luck!

We consider anyone who lived in Tamil Nadu in 1956 or before or their offsprings as citizens, Those who came after that may obtain citizenship if the live in TN continuously for 10 years and accept Tamil Nadu as their country. Similar to US citizenship rules.

Under that criteria, everyone in your list except Rajnikanth will qualify.

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Post by southindian Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:25 am

Kayalvizhi wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Kayalvizhi wrote:It is our position that outsiders should not be allowed to buy land in Tamil Nadu.
So, are you going to throw out Rajnikanth, Ammaa, Madurai Mudaliars, Tanjavur Nayakas, 2/3rd of Coimbatore population, 1/3rd of Kanchi-Vellore-Rajapet population, 1/3rd of Madras population, 1/2 of Hosur population.......... ?

Good luck!

We consider anyone who lived in Tamil Nadu in 1956 or before or their offsprings as citizens, Those who came after that may obtain citizenship if the live in TN continuously for 10 years and accept Tamil Nadu as their country. Similar to US citizenship rules.

Under that criteria, everyone in your list except Rajnikanth will qualify.
"We" means....Americans living in USA?

Why are Americans worried about people living in Telangana?
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Post by indophile Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:34 am

Kayalvizhi wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Kayalvizhi wrote:It is our position that outsiders should not be allowed to buy land in Tamil Nadu.
So, are you going to throw out Rajnikanth, Ammaa, Madurai Mudaliars, Tanjavur Nayakas, 2/3rd of Coimbatore population, 1/3rd of Kanchi-Vellore-Rajapet population, 1/3rd of Madras population, 1/2 of Hosur population.......... ?

Good luck!

We consider anyone who lived in Tamil Nadu in 1956 or before or their offsprings as citizens, Those who came after that may obtain citizenship if the live in TN continuously for 10 years and accept Tamil Nadu as their country. Similar to US citizenship rules.

Under that criteria, everyone in your list except Rajnikanth will qualify.
Do Srilankan refugees or other Srilankans who entered TN illegally qualify?

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Post by Kayalvizhi Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:50 am

indophile wrote:
Do Srilankan refugees or other Srilankans who entered TN illegally qualify?

Yes, after 10 years of continuous stay in Tamil Nadu, unless they entered TN illegally per international norms.

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Post by Hellsangel Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:51 am

Kayalvizhi wrote:
indophile wrote:
Do Srilankan refugees or other Srilankans who entered TN illegally qualify?

Yes, after 10 years of continuous stay in Tamil Nadu.

Do Mexicans who enter the US illegally qualify to be legal in the United States after 10 years of continuous stay, Trollus?
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Post by indophile Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:51 am

Kayalvizhi wrote:
indophile wrote:
Do Srilankan refugees or other Srilankans who entered TN illegally qualify?

Yes, after 10 years of continuous stay in Tamil Nadu, unless they entered TN illegally per international norms.
1956 doesn't apply for them?

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Post by Kayalvizhi Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:52 am

Read my reply.
Yes, after 10 years of continuous stay in Tamil Nadu, unless they entered TN illegally per international norms.

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Post by Kayalvizhi Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:53 am

indophile wrote:
Kayalvizhi wrote:
indophile wrote:
Do Srilankan refugees or other Srilankans who entered TN illegally qualify?

Yes, after 10 years of continuous stay in Tamil Nadu, unless they entered TN illegally per international norms.
1956 doesn't apply for them?

Do you have a comprehension problem. Read it again

We consider anyone who lived in Tamil Nadu in 1956 or before or their offsprings as citizens, Those who came after that may obtain citizenship if the live in TN continuously for 10 years and accept Tamil Nadu as their country. Similar to US citizenship rules.

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Post by indophile Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:57 am

But TN is not a country. 
Also what use is the year 1956 then? if you can live for 10 years in TN (whether you pay taxes or on the dole doesn't matter), then per your pronouncement you are already a resident (or domicile as they say it).

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Post by Kayalvizhi Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:00 am

indophile wrote:But TN is not a country. 
Also what use is the year 1956 then? if you can live for 10 years in TN (whether you pay taxes or on the dole doesn't matter), then per your pronouncement you are already a resident (or domicile as they say it).
I wrote
"and accept Tamil Nadu as their country"

Tamil people are conmpassionate. Groups or people oppressed in other countries are welcome if their statements prove correct.

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Post by indophile Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:09 am

Kayalvizhi wrote:
indophile wrote:But TN is not a country. 
Also what use is the year 1956 then? if you can live for 10 years in TN (whether you pay taxes or on the dole doesn't matter), then per your pronouncement you are already a resident (or domicile as they say it).
I wrote
"and accept Tamil Nadu as their country"

Tamil people are conmpassionate. Groups or people oppressed in other countries are welcome if their statements prove correct.
I wrote 
"and accept Tamil Nadu as their country"


But that's meaningless, when it's not a country. TN is a state in India.

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Post by southindian Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:09 am

Kayalvizhi wrote:
indophile wrote:But TN is not a country. 
Also what use is the year 1956 then? if you can live for 10 years in TN (whether you pay taxes or on the dole doesn't matter), then per your pronouncement you are already a resident (or domicile as they say it).
I wrote
"and accept Tamil Nadu as their country"

Tamil people are conmpassionate. Groups or people oppressed in other countries are welcome if their statements prove correct.
What about Kannada and Andhra people who live in the next village bordering Tamil Nadu?
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Post by southindian Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:11 am

Kayalvizhi wrote:
indophile wrote:But TN is not a country. 
Also what use is the year 1956 then? if you can live for 10 years in TN (whether you pay taxes or on the dole doesn't matter), then per your pronouncement you are already a resident (or domicile as they say it).
I wrote
"and accept Tamil Nadu as their country"

Tamil people are conmpassionate. Groups or people oppressed in other countries are welcome if their statements prove correct.
Do you have an understanding problem? Tamil Nadu is not a country. Understand it again
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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:16 am

swapna wrote:
indophile wrote:This time it's land survey. For the recently concluded people survey, it was easy - print forms, fix a day, send people (called "enumerators"), get the questonaire filled, may be feed the papers into scantron, and let the machine spit out out the tables. But land survey requires surveyors (skilled people) to cover all the ten districts (couple of them as big as some states in the country), survey every itty-bitty plot, compare what's on the ground with what came up on survey, and then send bulldozers. It's not going to be a one day affair like the people survey. 

 http://www.deccanchronicle.com/140822/nation-current-affairs/article/land-survey-telangana-after-diwali
If the survey needs to be redone, will the "enumerators" become "renumerators?"
will they then receive renumeration or remuneration for their work?


hahaha...ohohohoh...hahahaha..... rofl   lol!   clap 

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Post by b_A Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:01 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
swapna wrote:
indophile wrote:This time it's land survey. For the recently concluded people survey, it was easy - print forms, fix a day, send people (called "enumerators"), get the questonaire filled, may be feed the papers into scantron, and let the machine spit out out the tables. But land survey requires surveyors (skilled people) to cover all the ten districts (couple of them as big as some states in the country), survey every itty-bitty plot, compare what's on the ground with what came up on survey, and then send bulldozers. It's not going to be a one day affair like the people survey. 

 http://www.deccanchronicle.com/140822/nation-current-affairs/article/land-survey-telangana-after-diwali
If the survey needs to be redone, will the "enumerators" become "renumerators?"
will they then receive renumeration or remuneration for their work?


hahaha...ohohohoh...hahahaha..... rofl   lol!   clap 

Like a pesky shoeshine boy ( boy is a generic term here for the reading challenged evil loser) who polishes people's shoes unsolicited and when they are not looking and then demands payment , the evil loser will not give up unless a little money is thrown at him/her/It for unsolicited language polishing. Indo ,why don't you just throw a nickel or dime at the evil loser and be done with it ?

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Post by indophile Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:54 pm

b_A wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
swapna wrote:
indophile wrote:This time it's land survey. For the recently concluded people survey, it was easy - print forms, fix a day, send people (called "enumerators"), get the questonaire filled, may be feed the papers into scantron, and let the machine spit out out the tables. But land survey requires surveyors (skilled people) to cover all the ten districts (couple of them as big as some states in the country), survey every itty-bitty plot, compare what's on the ground with what came up on survey, and then send bulldozers. It's not going to be a one day affair like the people survey. 

 http://www.deccanchronicle.com/140822/nation-current-affairs/article/land-survey-telangana-after-diwali
If the survey needs to be redone, will the "enumerators" become "renumerators?"
will they then receive renumeration or remuneration for their work?


hahaha...ohohohoh...hahahaha..... rofl    lol!    clap 

Like a pesky shoeshine boy ( boy is a generic term here for the reading challenged evil loser) who polishes people's shoes unsolicited and when they are not looking and then demands payment , the evil loser will not give up unless a little money is thrown at him/her/It for unsolicited language polishing. Indo ,why don't you just  throw a nickel or dime at the evil loser and be done with it ?
I thought HA put an end to this long time ago. He/she said that the Oxford English Dictionary sates that the words "remuneration" and "renumeration" are used interchangeably. I can't add anything more to that.

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Post by Hellsangel Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:03 pm

indophile wrote:
b_A wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
swapna wrote:
indophile wrote:This time it's land survey. For the recently concluded people survey, it was easy - print forms, fix a day, send people (called "enumerators"), get the questonaire filled, may be feed the papers into scantron, and let the machine spit out out the tables. But land survey requires surveyors (skilled people) to cover all the ten districts (couple of them as big as some states in the country), survey every itty-bitty plot, compare what's on the ground with what came up on survey, and then send bulldozers. It's not going to be a one day affair like the people survey. 

 http://www.deccanchronicle.com/140822/nation-current-affairs/article/land-survey-telangana-after-diwali
If the survey needs to be redone, will the "enumerators" become "renumerators?"
will they then receive renumeration or remuneration for their work?


hahaha...ohohohoh...hahahaha..... rofl    lol!    clap 

Like a pesky shoeshine boy ( boy is a generic term here for the reading challenged evil loser) who polishes people's shoes unsolicited and when they are not looking and then demands payment , the evil loser will not give up unless a little money is thrown at him/her/It for unsolicited language polishing. Indo ,why don't you just  throw a nickel or dime at the evil loser and be done with it ?
I thought HA put an end to this long time ago. He/she said that the Oxford English Dictionary sates that the words "remuneration" and "renumeration" are used interchangeably. I can't add anything more to that.

If it helps, one more time here is the link:

http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/274285?rskey=69EcW9&result=1#eid


renumeration, n.1
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Pronunciation: Brit. /rᵻˌnjuːməˈreɪʃn/ , U.S. /rəˌn(j)uməˈreɪʃ(ə)n/ , /riˌn(j)uməˈreɪʃ(ə)n/
Etymology: Apparently a variant (by metathesis) of remuneration n.... (Show More)

= remuneration n. 1.

1572 J. Bridges tr. R. Gwalther Hundred, Threescore & Fiftene Homelyes xvii. 675 In this worlde we see for the most part, that the godly are afflicted without anye renumeration [L. remuneratione], and the wicked rage and ryot without check.
1659 E. Hyde Christian Vindic. Truth against Errour 468 Whereas tis rather to be said, (according to this supposition) For with your selves there is merit, and with him is plenteous renumeration.
1683 W. Bates Serm. Death & Eternal Judgement 85 The renumeration [1691 remuneration] of our Duty is the effect of his most free Favour; but the recompences of Sin are due, and decreed by Justice, in Number, Weight, and Measure.
1771 J. Shebbeare Authentic Narr. Oppress. Islanders Jersey I. ii. 39 The renumeration of endless bliss.
1809 A. Duncan Brit. Trident VI. 249 A renumeration was even subsequently granted to the sufferers by Parliament.
1866 Local Courts' & Municpal Gaz. May 78/1 Are magistrates to perform all the work required of them under that Act without renumeration?
1911 Times 7 Dec. 3/6 Reasonable renumeration for work and services rendered by him at the request of the defendants.
1957 Columbia Law Rev. 57 440 An employer makes a voluntary dismissal payment designating it as renumeration for a specific period or in lieu of notice.
2002 Rev. Econ. Stud. 69 799 Both the number of skilled workers and their relative renumeration have been increasing over time.
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Post by b_A Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:53 pm

indophile wrote:
b_A wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
swapna wrote:
indophile wrote:This time it's land survey. For the recently concluded people survey, it was easy - print forms, fix a day, send people (called "enumerators"), get the questonaire filled, may be feed the papers into scantron, and let the machine spit out out the tables. But land survey requires surveyors (skilled people) to cover all the ten districts (couple of them as big as some states in the country), survey every itty-bitty plot, compare what's on the ground with what came up on survey, and then send bulldozers. It's not going to be a one day affair like the people survey. 

 http://www.deccanchronicle.com/140822/nation-current-affairs/article/land-survey-telangana-after-diwali
If the survey needs to be redone, will the "enumerators" become "renumerators?"
will they then receive renumeration or remuneration for their work?


hahaha...ohohohoh...hahahaha..... rofl    lol!    clap 

Like a pesky shoeshine boy ( boy is a generic term here for the reading challenged evil loser) who polishes people's shoes unsolicited and when they are not looking and then demands payment , the evil loser will not give up unless a little money is thrown at him/her/It for unsolicited language polishing. Indo ,why don't you just  throw a nickel or dime at the evil loser and be done with it ?
I thought HA put an end to this long time ago. He/she said that the Oxford English Dictionary sates that the words "remuneration" and "renumeration" are used interchangeably. I can't add anything more to that.
Well , you cannot use logic against the senile evil loser who was impervious to it even when he was a little less older.
You have to use other methods.

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:55 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Kayalvizhi wrote:It is our position that outsiders should not be allowed to buy land in Tamil Nadu.
So, are you going to throw out Rajnikanth, Ammaa, Madurai Mudaliars, Tanjavur Nayakas, 2/3rd of Coimbatore population, 1/3rd of Kanchi-Vellore-Rajapet population, 1/3rd of Madras population, 1/2 of Hosur population.......... ?

Good luck!

We consider anyone who lived in Tamil Nadu in 1956 or before or their offsprings as citizens, Those who came after that may obtain citizenship if the live in TN continuously for 10 years and accept Tamil Nadu as their country. Similar to US citizenship rules.

Under that criteria, everyone in your list except Rajnikanth will qualify.
So, coastal Andhra people, Keralites and some Kannadigas are accepted?

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