Hero-worshipping

by confuzzled dude Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:19 am

Is there any difference between those in India who wanted to be arrested along with Jayalaitha and the ones that want to see Modiji in America? I guess that trait is ingrained in our culture, not easy to shed.

by truthbetold Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:48 am

CD

You are right.

http://www.economist.com/node/11780828

Obama mania grips europe. 200,000 people attend Obama rally.
These american and european cultures. Just hero worshippers. See where they are now.
oops, you meant those sheep like chaddiwallah Indians. I got carried away. May be that is also in our culture.

by confuzzled dude Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:09 am

truthbetold wrote:CD

You are right.

http://www.economist.com/node/11780828

Obama mania grips europe. 200,000 people attend Obama rally.
These american and european cultures. Just hero worshippers. See where they are now.
oops, you meant those sheep like chaddiwallah Indians. I got carried away. May be that is also in our culture.

Were those Americans emigrated to Europe?

by Hellsangel Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:21 am

TBT, why do you even bother with our deranged Comrade? Let him keep ranting.

by truthbetold Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:23 am

CD

Which Americans? What is the relevance of the identity of any Americans you are interested in?

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:31 am

I am watching live from Madison Square garden on TV Asia. It's a festive environment there. Thousands of people are watching the show. Kavitha Krishnamurti is singing 'Vaishnava Janato'. There's this white dude whose head is shaved except for a lil 'pilaka' (strand of hair) at the back, resembling the hair style of the hindu pujaris, painting a pic of Modi on stage. He did it beautifully. Nina Davuluri is compering the show. Damn these bloody indians and their ingrained culture of hero worship and yeah, how dare they have fun!

Edit: btw, if you have a dish satellite, TV Asia is offering their channel for free, temporarily i guess to enable ppl to watch these.

Beautiful dance now to Vande Mataram. Kullu kune vaallu kullukondi Razz

by truthbetold Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:34 am

Hellsangel wrote:TBT, why do you even bother with our deranged Comrade? Let him keep ranting.

I often ask myself that question. But CD is the spokesperson of the hopelessly confused Indian pseudo seculars. I can deal with it on weekends.

by confuzzled dude Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:34 am

truthbetold wrote:CD

Which Americans? What is the relevance of the identity of any Americans you are interested in?

Any non-Indian Americans bother about Modi? and who was Obama addressing in Europe. Also, do you think Modi addressing to NRIs in NY is similar to Clinton addressing to Indians in Hyderabad?

by confuzzled dude Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:38 am

Hellsangel wrote:TBT, why do you even bother with our deranged Comrade? Let him keep ranting.

Deranged are those that spent millions of dollars on a meaningless event in a foreign country, that serves no purpose.

by confuzzled dude Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:39 am

truthbetold wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:TBT, why do you even bother with our deranged Comrade? Let him keep ranting.
I often ask myself that question. But CD is the spokesperson of the hopelessly confused Indian pseudo seculars. I can deal with it on weekends.

Is that two intellectual minds trying to help the world?

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:40 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
truthbetold wrote:CD

Which Americans? What is the relevance of the identity of any Americans you are interested in?
Any non-Indian Americans bother about Modi? and who was Obama addressing in Europe. Also, do you think Modi addressing to NRIs in NY is similar to Clinton addressing to Indians in Hyderabad?

Why should anyone bother whether non-indian americans bother about Modi or not? Who cares! India came out of the grip of the Nehru dynasty finally and ppl are very happy to have Modi as its leader and celebrating it.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:49 am

confuzzled dude wrote:Is there any difference between those in India who wanted to be arrested along with Jayalaitha and the ones that want to see Modiji in America? I guess that trait is ingrained in our culture, not easy to shed.

I agree... India is going bad to worse. They are forgetting that they are expected to worship only Western people and white skinned people - like Sonia Mata Ji. Indians are losing their standards.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:53 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
truthbetold wrote:CD

Which Americans? What is the relevance of the identity of any Americans you are interested in?
Any non-Indian Americans bother about Modi? and who was Obama addressing in Europe. Also, do you think Modi addressing to NRIs in NY is similar to Clinton addressing to Indians in Hyderabad?

OK..ok..I know what you are beating around...

Modi is demon and all those who voted, supported and participating in the madison Sq garden and those who are watching the show or reading about it are all Hindu terrorists.

Now happy ?

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:10 am

oh well, CD, you may want to know that there are probably 30 congress men/women who are attending the show and they all have been called on to the stage. Modi is also coming on to the stage now.

by confuzzled dude Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:18 am

Kinnera wrote:oh well, CD, you may want to know that there are probably 30 congress men/women who are attending the show and they all have been called on to the stage. Modi is also coming on to the stage now.

Does it matter? Congress or BJP or TDP hero worshiping is hero worshiping, that's the only purpose this event serves, nothing else.

by Propagandhi711 Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:30 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:oh well, CD, you may want to know that there are probably 30 congress men/women who are attending the show and they all have been called on to the stage. Modi is also coming on to the stage now.
Does it matter? Congress or BJP or TDP hero worshiping is hero worshiping, that's the only purpose this event serves, nothing else.

it's not hero worshipp when a certain mulla reddy campaigns for an unqualified dynasty that ran the country ineptly for 60 yrs and a corrupt, thuggish, murderering family that ran the state coffers into the ground for 8 yrs after looting it like never before. in that case, it's good for the country yessir

by confuzzled dude Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:53 am

Propagandhi711 wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:oh well, CD, you may want to know that there are probably 30 congress men/women who are attending the show and they all have been called on to the stage. Modi is also coming on to the stage now.
Does it matter? Congress or BJP or TDP hero worshiping is hero worshiping, that's the only purpose this event serves, nothing else.

it's not hero worshipp when a certain mulla reddy campaigns for an unqualified dynasty that ran the country ineptly for 60 yrs and a corrupt, thuggish, murderering family that ran the state coffers into the ground for 8 yrs after looting it like never before. in that case, it's good for the country yessir

I fail to see the connection between what you wrote above and what I'm saying. I never indulged in adulation of any one, it must be a figment of your imagination.

by michelle2 Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:09 pm

Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
truthbetold wrote:CD

Which Americans? What is the relevance of the identity of any Americans you are interested in?
Any non-Indian Americans bother about Modi? and who was Obama addressing in Europe. Also, do you think Modi addressing to NRIs in NY is similar to Clinton addressing to Indians in Hyderabad?
Why should anyone bother whether non-indian americans bother about Modi or not? Who cares! India came out of the grip of the Nehru dynasty finally and ppl are very happy to have Modi as its leader and celebrating it.

you are not indian, are you? isn't your leader a christian, african-american man who lives and works in washington, dc? what's your interest in how indians regard their prime minister?

by truthbetold Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:22 pm

CD

As usual you make an irrelevant point and run away.

When europeans turned up in large numbers to see obama it is because they were hoping there will be a change in direction. Obama as president of USA could affect an ordinary european. That is the connection. They want to see him in person and feel the electricity in such an event. Those who showed are also probably more socially conscious and active.

People going to modi's meeting can be placed into similar catagory. Why only NRIs, you ask. Because modi is the PM of a developing country and his actions are likely to affect mostly indians and NRIs who care about India. NRIs who feel for their nation of origin has a real chance of transforming into a mature nation allowing entrepreneurship to blossom are taking real time to go and see modi. They probably want to participate in India's growth in a small way.

Your reasoning as usual is sour grapes. It has no basis.

State what metrics would you suggest to use to check Modi's success after 5 years. That makes for real discussion instead of throwing mud and writing meaningless words.

by michelle2 Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:40 pm

truthbetold wrote:They probably want to participate in India's growth in a small way.

SoothBeSold, here's what they really want to do.

by truthbetold Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:42 pm

michelle2 wrote:
truthbetold wrote:They probably want to participate in India's growth in a small way.

SoothBeSold, here's what they really want to do.

did you doze off or are you finished?

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:13 pm

michelle2 wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
truthbetold wrote:CD

Which Americans? What is the relevance of the identity of any Americans you are interested in?
Any non-Indian Americans bother about Modi? and who was Obama addressing in Europe. Also, do you think Modi addressing to NRIs in NY is similar to Clinton addressing to Indians in Hyderabad?
Why should anyone bother whether non-indian americans bother about Modi or not? Who cares! India came out of the grip of the Nehru dynasty finally and ppl are very happy to have Modi as its leader and celebrating it.

you are not indian, are you? isn't your leader a christian, african-american man who lives and works in washington, dc? what's your interest in how indians regard their prime minister?

Read the sentence carefully. I said 'people', not indians. I said 'its' (india's), not 'their'. People (NRIs included) are happy that India has Modi as 'its' leader and are celebration it.
Just because NRIs are american citizens doesn't make them lose their freedom to feel happy for india and celebrate its new leader.

The wording was also as such on stage too. Nina said, 'Let's all rise up to sing 'our' National anthem' and then American national anthem was sung. Then she said, let's sing the Indian anthem and 'jana gana mana' was sung.

Just because a woman is married and moved to her inlaws' place and makes it her home doesn't mean she abandons and ignores her parents' home. Same here.

by confuzzled dude Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:16 pm

truthbetold wrote:CD
As usual you make an irrelevant point and run away.

Are you sure?

truthbetold wrote:
When europeans turned up in large numbers to see obama it is because they were hoping there will be a change in direction. Obama as president of USA could affect an ordinary european. That is the connection. They want to see him in person and feel the electricity in such an event. Those who showed are also probably more socially conscious and active.

In other words they were not the Americans living in Europe.

truthbetold wrote:
People going to modi's meeting can be placed into similar catagory. Why only NRIs, you ask. Because modi is the PM of a developing country and his actions are likely to affect mostly indians and NRIs who care about India. NRIs who feel for their nation of origin has a real chance of transforming into a mature nation allowing entrepreneurship to blossom are taking real time to go and see modi. They probably want to participate in India's growth in a small way.

No they don't fall into similar category because Americans living in Europea did not spend millions of dollars to showcase their loyalty to their self-aggrandizing pompous leader.

truthbetold wrote:
Your reasoning as usual is sour grapes. It has no basis.

This is getting stale, you may want to borrow a few more labels from our resident label boy.

truthbetold wrote:
State what metrics would you suggest to use to check Modi's success after 5 years. That makes for real discussion instead of throwing mud and writing meaningless words.

Create 100 million jobs, and show 12% sustained growth.

by confuzzled dude Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:41 pm

michelle2 wrote:
truthbetold wrote:They probably want to participate in India's growth in a small way.

SoothBeSold, here's what they really want to do.

This is a gem. They want to participate in India's growth by spending millions of dollars on a foreign soil. Is Madison Garden a non-profit organization sending all the profits from this event to help India.

by confuzzled dude Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:59 pm

Kinnera wrote:
The wording was also as such on stage too. Nina said, 'Let's all rise up to sing 'our' National anthem' and then American national anthem was sung. Then she said, let's sing the Indian anthem and 'jana gana mana' was sung.

So there was no true love for India. Was Modiji on the stage at that time and what about all those in the audience that are in this country on working visas.

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:42 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
The wording was also as such on stage too. Nina said, 'Let's all rise up to sing 'our' National anthem' and then American national anthem was sung. Then she said, let's sing the Indian anthem and 'jana gana mana' was sung.
So there was no true love for India. Was Modiji on the stage at that time and what about all those in the audience that are in this country on working visas.

Explain why you think so.

by truthbetold Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:04 pm

Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
The wording was also as such on stage too. Nina said, 'Let's all rise up to sing 'our' National anthem' and then American national anthem was sung. Then she said, let's sing the Indian anthem and 'jana gana mana' was sung.
So there was no true love for India. Was Modiji on the stage at that time and what about all those in the audience that are in this country on working visas.
Explain why you think so.

Kinnera,

It is a fact because CD said so.

by truthbetold Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:27 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:

truthbetold wrote:
When europeans turned up in large numbers to see obama it is because they were hoping there will be a change in direction. Obama as president of USA could affect an ordinary european. That is the connection. They want to see him in person and feel the electricity in such an event. Those who showed are also probably more socially conscious and active.
In other words they were not the Americans living in Europe.

TBT: The money is spent by those who felt that Obama's win would change things. There is american money and european money. But that is an unnecessary side tracking discussion. The central thesis money is spent by people who believe in Obama.
truthbetold wrote:
People going to modi's meeting can be placed into similar catagory. Why only NRIs, you ask. Because modi is the PM of a developing country and his actions are likely to affect mostly indians and NRIs who care about India. NRIs who feel for their nation of origin has a real chance of transforming into a mature nation allowing entrepreneurship to blossom are taking real time to go and see modi. They probably want to participate in India's growth in a small way.
No they don't fall into similar category because Americans living in Europea did not spend millions of dollars to showcase their loyalty to their self-aggrandizing pompous leader.

CD

My answers below your yours. Once again your opinion does not automatically become a fact. The only way modi repays these massive nri group is by providing low corruption highly effective high growth peaceful india. if that is self aggrandizing, indians seem to be ok with it. If modi enhances India's prestige around the world through economic success, then indian people may even tolerate modi's pomposity .

by confuzzled dude Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:59 pm

truthbetold wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
The wording was also as such on stage too. Nina said, 'Let's all rise up to sing 'our' National anthem' and then American national anthem was sung. Then she said, let's sing the Indian anthem and 'jana gana mana' was sung.
So there was no true love for India. Was Modiji on the stage at that time and what about all those in the audience that are in this country on working visas.
Explain why you think so.
Kinnera,

It is a fact because CD said so.

If it was about his victory in Indian general elections then the theme should have been all about India and how can they help their country India. If it was Americans inviting Modiji as a chief guest then I'm not sure why they were celebrating his victory in Indian elections, very very confusing.

by truthbetold Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:03 pm

It is confusing because one is wearing blinkers and refuse to accept reality.

by Propagandhi711 Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:57 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:oh well, CD, you may want to know that there are probably 30 congress men/women who are attending the show and they all have been called on to the stage. Modi is also coming on to the stage now.
Does it matter? Congress or BJP or TDP hero worshiping is hero worshiping, that's the only purpose this event serves, nothing else.

it's not hero worshipp when a certain mulla reddy campaigns for an unqualified dynasty that ran the country ineptly for 60 yrs and a corrupt, thuggish, murderering family that ran the state coffers into the ground for 8 yrs after looting it like never before. in that case, it's good for the country yessir
I fail to see the connection between what you wrote above and what I'm saying. I never indulged in adulation of any one, it must be a figment of your imagination.

when you are relentlessly negative about certain characters and are utterly silent when it comes to others, that counts as adulation, comrade mian. also it's not a figment of my imagination what you said wrt yeduguri sr

by confuzzled dude Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:34 pm

This is populism at its very best: Modi made everyone believe what was happening at Madison Square Garden was about them. It was actually about him—his power, his ego, his success.

As the speech finished— a well-curated number, except for the terrible English translation of the speech—the flag of India was superimposed on Modi’s image. Slowly, his face became the wheel at the centre of the flag. It does not get more obvious than that.

Modi, not India, took over New York this weekend. His mistakes and shadows seem already forgotten. He, a few months after being elected, and his promises are already celebrated like victories. The crowd drank every word, and welcomed small, unsurprising announcements (the visa on arrival that has been in the works from before he was elected) as if they were big achievements (as the chain of claim of credit for the nuclear deal before him).

Personalities like Modi get remembered for who they are, not what they did. His US tour has assured his place in history

http://qz.com/272521/how-narendra-modi-made-history-in-new-york/

Those few lines gave perfect description of this mania.

by smArtha Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:46 am

confuzzled dude wrote:

If it was about his victory in Indian general elections then the theme should have been all about India and how can they help their country India. If it was Americans inviting Modiji as a chief guest then I'm not sure why they were celebrating his victory in Indian elections, very very confusing.

If you didn't realize it yet, being confused is not your main problem. It is the conclusions arrived at with such confusions that you should be worried about.

by Guest Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:52 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
truthbetold wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
The wording was also as such on stage too. Nina said, 'Let's all rise up to sing 'our' National anthem' and then American national anthem was sung. Then she said, let's sing the Indian anthem and 'jana gana mana' was sung.
So there was no true love for India. Was Modiji on the stage at that time and what about all those in the audience that are in this country on working visas.
Explain why you think so.
Kinnera,

It is a fact because CD said so.
If it was about his victory in Indian general elections then the theme should have been all about India and how can they help their country India. If it was Americans inviting Modiji as a chief guest then I'm not sure why they were celebrating his victory in Indian elections, very very confusing.

Stay confused and miserable Razz

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