another week

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:fortunately the dad who is the owner of the weapon is alive unlike the newtown case. i hope he gets castrated or at the very least loses his testicles along with every penny he owns and serves a long jail term. we'll see. i'd like to see a vigorous prosecution.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Nothing will happen. can happen.

FluteHolder wrote:Just like anti-cigarette lobbyists fought and won against cigarette use, why cannot state/govt/orgs file law suit against gun manufacturers for the cost on dealing with such crimes? And increase the cost of gun ownership by multiple fold (similar to cigarettes). Put more tax on gun ownership and yearly renewal/fees etc? IT is all in the $ and beat the $ with tax on it.

FluteHolder wrote:All cities with good schools/school districts have high property taxes. I donot want irresponsible gun owners live in my zipcodes/district. So any parent who is a gun owner pays huge tax for his gun and he is welcome to move to a different city/area if he likes his gun so much. So the initial access to gun by student is eliminated.

And also the schools should get declaration from parents every year whether they have guns at home or not.  And if the school is aware of a kid who's parent has gun/s can watch/monitor the kid/his behavior than cry over/react after the incident. 

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:None of the suggestions by Flutie, MaxE, GC - noble it might sound - will/can happen.

Unlike Cigarette, guns are protected by second amendment (albeit the original purpose is long obsolete).

2. Any change in law has to be amended CONSTITUTIONALLY - means has to be passed by 2/3rd majority by Congress and Senate, and 2/3rd of the states (although there is no time limit for that).

Do you know when the constitution was amended and for what purpose? and how long it took for the states to ratify. Just check and you will be surprised.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:None of the suggestions by Flutie, MaxE, GC - noble it might sound - will/can happen.

Unlike Cigarette, guns are protected by second amendment (albeit the original purpose is long obsolete).

2. Any change in law has to be amended CONSTITUTIONALLY - means has to be passed by 2/3rd majority by Congress and Senate, and 2/3rd of the states (although there is no time limit for that).

Do you know when the constitution was amended and for what purpose? and how long it took for the states to ratify. Just check and you will be surprised.

i don't think the second amendment prohibits prosecuting negligent parents more vigorously. i don't see how parent negligence is covered by the second amendment. explain that to me.

According to the FBI, mass shootings (defined as shooting events that kill at least four people) occur on average every two weeks in the United States. Yes, every two weeks. Yet we rarely, if ever, hear about most of them.

For a country that is so single-mindedly obsessed with terrorism, it’s jaw-dropping that almost nobody recognizes that school shooters use the exact same strategies to disseminate fear and their twisted agendas throughout society. Terrorists use violence and mass media coverage to promote political or religious beliefs; school shooters use violence and mass media coverage to promote their personal grievances and glorification.

When we think of terrorists, we think of some alien “other” — the bearded, turbaned man hiding in some cave on the other side of the world. Because he’s so distant and different, we let him eat at our imagination — he could be anywhere, ready to strike at any moment, hiding in behind every bush, planting a bomb on every bus or plane. We clog our airports and blast warnings through our public buildings for some imagined bogeyman who is never actually present.

By contrast, we fail to spot shooter after shooter because they are so close to us and so much like us. We miss them because they are our neighbors, our classmates, our friends or even our family members. They are right in front of our noses and we ignore them for a whole host of trivial reasons. Maybe they’re too weird, or awkward, or they’re a loser. We don’t want to talk to them. We put our blinders on and pretend that they’re not miserable, we pretend that they didn’t just have that awkward outburst, we pretend they didn’t just make a joke about killing their own parents.

Eric Harris’ friends later said that he would often “joke” about blowing up the school and murdering classmates. Even after they discovered he was building bombs in his basement, they never put two-and-two together. They just couldn’t believe it. Not Eric. Not the guy they had played video games with and toilet papered girls’ houses with.

Meanwhile, the wrong sarcastic word at the airport and you can be held in jail for days.

An FBI study on school shooters found school shootings are never a result of a crazy person “snapping.” Most shooters do have serious mental health or emotional issues, but they all plan their attacks months or even years in advance. And as they plan, they almost always “leak” information about the attack beforehand, sometimes intentionally, and sometimes in incredibly obvious ways.