Emergency under Modi is very much plausible

The concentration of power in the hands of the prime minister is a case in point. It has reached unprecedented proportions, if one goes by the BJP’s own tradition as a party where the Atal Bihari Vajpayee-L.K. Advani collegial modus operandi echoed the RSS’s disregard for the personalisation of power. The new trend results primarily from the docility of the BJP parliamentary party. Senior leaders have been denied tickets and newcomers (including many Congress turncoats) who owe direct allegiance to Modi have been hand-picked.  

The PM controls not only the parliamentary group but also the government, in a rather unusual manner. He has been able to give key portfolios to a handful of loyalists and the prime minister’s office relates directly to bureaucrats and short-circuits senior ministers who, in some cases, could not even select their own principal secretaries without PMO approval. Finally, while the BJP’s intra-party elections have always been more meaningful than the Congress’s, Modi has been able to push the appointment of his closest associate as party president.

The long-term implications of this personalisation of power may be an eventual de-institutionalisation of the BJP in the same way that Indira Gandhi made the Congress apparatus redundant. This trend was already apparent during the general election campaign, when the teams that canvassed for Modi were not organically related to the Sangh Parivar. The biggest of these parallel power structures was the Citizens for Accountable Governance. But there were others, including the Modi4PM fund and Mission 272+.

Such concentration of power may lead to more effective governance and improve the work culture of the bureaucracy, but the fact that many decisions will have to wait for clearances at the top may also delay the decision-making process. The counter-productive impact of such centralisation could be of a larger magnitude if, like under Indira Gandhi, federal principles are undermined and chief ministers are once again appointed by the PM.

In the process, Modi again administered a snub to L.K. Advani, who favoured continuing the earlier ties with the Sena. But it isn’t only the party’s “senior citizen” who was rebuffed. Even Nitin Gadkari was at the receiving end of a mild reprimand because of the amateurish expressions of support for his claim to be chief minister by some of his followers.

What these developments emphasise is that Modi has become the sole dominant figure in the BJP. Not since Indira Gandhi’s unquestioned primacy over the Congress between 1971 and 1977 has there been such a domineering personality in a party at the national level. As a result, the BJP now depends almost entirely on Modi to win elections with the party president, Amit Shah, being no more than a ground-level organiser. There is little doubt that Modi will again hit the campaign trail when elections are held in Jharkhand and Jammu and Kashmir.

confuzzled dude wrote:

In the process, Modi again administered a snub to L.K. Advani, who favoured continuing the earlier ties with the Sena. But it isn’t only the party’s “senior citizen” who was rebuffed. Even Nitin Gadkari was at the receiving end of a mild reprimand because of the amateurish expressions of support for his claim to be chief minister by some of his followers.

What these developments emphasise is that Modi has become the sole dominant figure in the BJP. Not since Indira Gandhi’s unquestioned primacy over the Congress between 1971 and 1977 has there been such a domineering personality in a party at the national level. As a result, the BJP now depends almost entirely on Modi to win elections with the party president, Amit Shah, being no more than a ground-level organiser. There is little doubt that Modi will again hit the campaign trail when elections are held in Jharkhand and Jammu and Kashmir.

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-10-25/news/55422069_1_pm-narendra-modi-manohar-lal-khattar-shiv-sena

-> Though these guys are regurgitating the very points we've been discussing all along, it is interesting to see them unfold pretty much as we envisioned.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Is this a new technique used by CONartists to get some votes? 

There is no logical reason for Modi to declare emergency.

CONartists are screwed! Actually, they shot themselves on the foot.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

In the process, Modi again administered a snub to L.K. Advani, who favoured continuing the earlier ties with the Sena. But it isn’t only the party’s “senior citizen” who was rebuffed. Even Nitin Gadkari was at the receiving end of a mild reprimand because of the amateurish expressions of support for his claim to be chief minister by some of his followers.

What these developments emphasise is that Modi has become the sole dominant figure in the BJP. Not since Indira Gandhi’s unquestioned primacy over the Congress between 1971 and 1977 has there been such a domineering personality in a party at the national level. As a result, the BJP now depends almost entirely on Modi to win elections with the party president, Amit Shah, being no more than a ground-level organiser. There is little doubt that Modi will again hit the campaign trail when elections are held in Jharkhand and Jammu and Kashmir.

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-10-25/news/55422069_1_pm-narendra-modi-manohar-lal-khattar-shiv-sena

-> Though these guys are regurgitating the very points we've been discussing all along, it is interesting to see them unfold pretty much as we envisioned.

NDA loading the admin with RSS walas is par for the game. That is called politics. Demos and republicans loading admin/judiciary with liberals or tea Partyers is considered periodic  normal political banacing. Commies in Bengal filled every block/politice station with commies. Cong (i) made sure RSS or anyone even slightly pro-hindu did not occupy any govt post. Where were you during all those years and your scream for fairness?

So, NDA is loading everyone with those with their hindutva views. That is called democracy - in case you have are new to political history.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

In the process, Modi again administered a snub to L.K. Advani, who favoured continuing the earlier ties with the Sena. But it isn’t only the party’s “senior citizen” who was rebuffed. Even Nitin Gadkari was at the receiving end of a mild reprimand because of the amateurish expressions of support for his claim to be chief minister by some of his followers.

What these developments emphasise is that Modi has become the sole dominant figure in the BJP. Not since Indira Gandhi’s unquestioned primacy over the Congress between 1971 and 1977 has there been such a domineering personality in a party at the national level. As a result, the BJP now depends almost entirely on Modi to win elections with the party president, Amit Shah, being no more than a ground-level organiser. There is little doubt that Modi will again hit the campaign trail when elections are held in Jharkhand and Jammu and Kashmir.

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-10-25/news/55422069_1_pm-narendra-modi-manohar-lal-khattar-shiv-sena

-> Though these guys are regurgitating the very points we've been discussing all along, it is interesting to see them unfold pretty much as we envisioned.

NDA loading the admin with RSS walas is par for the game. That is called politics. Demos and republicans loading admin/judiciary with liberals or tea Partyers is considered periodic  normal political banacing. Commies in Bengal filled every block/politice station with commies. Cong (i) made sure RSS or anyone even slightly pro-hindu did not occupy any govt post. Where were you during all those years and your scream for fairness?

So, NDA is loading everyone with those with their hindutva views. That is called democracy - in case you have are new to political history.

Your analogy is misplaced. It is not about loading his administration with RSSwallahs rather about dictatorial tendencies of Modiji

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
indians equate decisiveness with dictatorial trends. just look around the states. the ones that are worshipped are somewhat bull-headed. as long as they are bull-headed for the good of the country (and not their family/kids) it is fine.

Your fear of autocracy are mischeavous and dubious - coming after just 4 months, while you kept mum at the blatant bullying by Bar Mata.

ashdoc wrote:i guess this constant carping about modi is what kept him relevant all these years and catapulted him to prime ministership . if not for this constant carping, who would have remembered modi after the effect of the 2002 godhra riots was over ??

confuzzled dude wrote:

ashdoc wrote:i guess this constant carping about modi is what kept him relevant all these years and catapulted him to prime ministership . if not for this constant carping, who would have remembered modi after the effect of the 2002 godhra riots was over ??

In civilized world, spearheading murder and mayhem by an elected leader which resulted in loss of nearly 2000 innocent lives is a big deal unless your idea of civilized world is Pakistan.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
indians equate decisiveness with dictatorial trends. just look around the states. the ones that are worshipped are somewhat bull-headed. as long as they are bull-headed for the good of the country (and not their family/kids) it is fine.

Your fear of autocracy are mischeavous and dubious - coming after just 4 months, while you kept mum at the blatant bullying by Bar Mata.

Decisiveness more like insecurity, placing higtec bugs at ministers residences/offices and micromanaging them to the core, are sure signs of autocratic tendencies. No matter how much you try putting lipstick on a pig, it doesn't change the fact that it is a pig.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Wait until the feeling of unrest and discontent within the party ferments or Modiji's popularity dwindles

smArtha wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Wait until the feeling of unrest and discontent within the party ferments or Modiji's popularity dwindles

Everyone is willing to wait and watch.. but you are the one too eager to see which molehill may become a mountain.

confuzzled dude wrote:

ashdoc wrote:i guess this constant carping about modi is what kept him relevant all these years and catapulted him to prime ministership . if not for this constant carping, who would have remembered modi after the effect of the 2002 godhra riots was over ??

In civilized world, spearheading murder and mayhem by an elected leader which resulted in loss of nearly 2000 innocent lives is a big deal unless your idea of civilized world is Pakistan.

confuzzled dude wrote:

The concentration of power in the hands of the prime minister is a case in point. It has reached unprecedented proportions, if one goes by the BJP’s own tradition as a party where the Atal Bihari Vajpayee-L.K. Advani collegial modus operandi echoed the RSS’s disregard for the personalisation of power. The new trend results primarily from the docility of the BJP parliamentary party. Senior leaders have been denied tickets and newcomers (including many Congress turncoats) who owe direct allegiance to Modi have been hand-picked.  

The PM controls not only the parliamentary group but also the government, in a rather unusual manner. He has been able to give key portfolios to a handful of loyalists and the prime minister’s office relates directly to bureaucrats and short-circuits senior ministers who, in some cases, could not even select their own principal secretaries without PMO approval. Finally, while the BJP’s intra-party elections have always been more meaningful than the Congress’s, Modi has been able to push the appointment of his closest associate as party president.

The long-term implications of this personalisation of power may be an eventual de-institutionalisation of the BJP in the same way that Indira Gandhi made the Congress apparatus redundant. This trend was already apparent during the general election campaign, when the teams that canvassed for Modi were not organically related to the Sangh Parivar. The biggest of these parallel power structures was the Citizens for Accountable Governance. But there were others, including the Modi4PM fund and Mission 272+.

Such concentration of power may lead to more effective governance and improve the work culture of the bureaucracy, but the fact that many decisions will have to wait for clearances at the top may also delay the decision-making process. The counter-productive impact of such centralisation could be of a larger magnitude if, like under Indira Gandhi, federal principles are undermined and chief ministers are once again appointed by the PM.

http://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/centre-according-to-modi/99/

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

It is quite possible that Einstein's theory might be proved wrong.

smArtha wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Wait until the feeling of unrest and discontent within the party ferments or Modiji's popularity dwindles

Everyone is willing to wait and watch.. but you are the one too eager to see which molehill may become a mountain.

Propagandhi711 wrote:

smArtha wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Wait until the feeling of unrest and discontent within the party ferments or Modiji's popularity dwindles

Everyone is willing to wait and watch.. but you are the one too eager to see which molehill may become a mountain.

comrade's kukkala sandadi is amusing to watch, if tiring at times

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:

smArtha wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Wait until the feeling of unrest and discontent within the party ferments or Modiji's popularity dwindles

Everyone is willing to wait and watch.. but you are the one too eager to see which molehill may become a mountain.

comrade's kukkala sandadi is amusing to watch, if tiring at times

I think there is a "power struggle" within the CONmen of SuCH. Notice how Mian Daud and Al-Akbari dont respond much to each other's posts.

Propagandhi711 wrote:


comrade's kukkala sandadi is amusing to watch, if tiring at times

smArtha wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:


comrade's kukkala sandadi is amusing to watch, if tiring at times

Amusing indeed. CD does come across as someone who'd spend sleepless nights with the fear that NaMo Ghost may grab him if he wasn't alert enough :-).

Kinnera wrote:

Can you pls check your notes. I have a dbt abt a vedic verse. Thnx.

Propagandhi711 wrote:

smArtha wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Wait until the feeling of unrest and discontent within the party ferments or Modiji's popularity dwindles

Everyone is willing to wait and watch.. but you are the one too eager to see which molehill may become a mountain.

comrade's kukkala sandadi is amusing to watch, if tiring at times

ashdoc wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

ashdoc wrote:i guess this constant carping about modi is what kept him relevant all these years and catapulted him to prime ministership . if not for this constant carping, who would have remembered modi after the effect of the 2002 godhra riots was over ??

In civilized world, spearheading murder and mayhem by an elected leader which resulted in loss of nearly 2000 innocent lives is a big deal unless your idea of civilized world is Pakistan.

then why dont they make a big deal of mass murder of sikhs post indira gandhi's death ??

confuzzled dude wrote:

ashdoc wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

ashdoc wrote:i guess this constant carping about modi is what kept him relevant all these years and catapulted him to prime ministership . if not for this constant carping, who would have remembered modi after the effect of the 2002 godhra riots was over ??

In civilized world, spearheading murder and mayhem by an elected leader which resulted in loss of nearly 2000 innocent lives is a big deal unless your idea of civilized world is Pakistan.

then why dont they make a big deal of mass murder of sikhs post indira gandhi's death ??

That's because Rajiv Gandhi is dead long ago.

ashdoc wrote:
even when he was alive , not much was made of it . and no tirades were ever launched by these seculars ( like they are launched against modi ) against those who spearheaded the mobs which killed sikhs---leaders like hkl bhagat and jagdish tytler .