HRD Ministry: Separate canteens for vegetarians, non-vegetarians in IITs and IIMs

MUMBAI: The Union human resource development ministry has written to the premier IITs and the IIMs to seek their opinion on setting up separate canteens for vegetarians. The ministry has forwarded around five letters, written in chaste Hindi by a group that has sought such a bifurcation, to the institutes.

confuzzled dude wrote:

MUMBAI: The Union human resource development ministry has written to the premier IITs and the IIMs to seek their opinion on setting up separate canteens for vegetarians. The ministry has forwarded around five letters, written in chaste Hindi by a group that has sought such a bifurcation, to the institutes.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/education/news/HRD-ministry-seeks-IITs-IIMs-views-on-veg-non-veg-canteens/articleshow/44976176.cms

-> What's next! separate sub-canteens for hindi/non-hindi speakers in those separate canteens.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Separating vegetarian and non-vegetarian kitchens is appropriate, especially when you have people who are religious about being vegetarian.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Separating vegetarian and non-vegetarian kitchens is appropriate, especially when you have people who are religious about being vegetarian.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Separating vegetarian and non-vegetarian kitchens is appropriate, especially when you have people who are religious about being vegetarian.

Additionally, students should be seated by their caste, gothram, religion and dorms allocations should strictly adhere to hindu traditions by grouping them into agraharams, malapallis etc.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Separating vegetarian and non-vegetarian kitchens is appropriate, especially when you have people who are religious about being vegetarian.

Additionally, students should be seated by their caste, gothram, religion and dorms allocations should strictly adhere to hindu traditions by grouping them into agraharams, malapallis etc.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Separating vegetarian and non-vegetarian kitchens is appropriate, especially when you have people who are religious about being vegetarian.

Additionally, students should be seated by their caste, gothram, religion and dorms allocations should strictly adhere to hindu traditions by grouping them into agraharams, malapallis etc.

I didn't write that. I was only suggesting separate kitchens for veg and non-veg. You are sikularly extrapolating what I wrote and creating unnecessary controversy.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Separating vegetarian and non-vegetarian kitchens is appropriate, especially when you have people who are religious about being vegetarian.

dinner was one occasion when everyone was relaxed. the food was uniformly disgusting, but the conversation usually flowed freely.  this was also the occasion when seniors shared study tips, horror stories about specific instructors and labs, and tips about "apping" to american universities, acing the GRE, the state of one's b.tech project (BTP), and interesting and weird experimental results etc.  nobody cared what was on the other guy's plate.  i am hoping things stay that way (except the menu which could use a makeover) and that idiot pan-chewing, illiterate govt busybodies don't ruin things.

confuzzled dude wrote:

MUMBAI: The Union human resource development ministry has written to the premier IITs and the IIMs to seek their opinion on setting up separate canteens for vegetarians. The ministry has forwarded around five letters, written in chaste Hindi by a group that has sought such a bifurcation, to the institutes.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/education/news/HRD-ministry-seeks-IITs-IIMs-views-on-veg-non-veg-canteens/articleshow/44976176.cms

-> What's next! separate sub-canteens for hindi/non-hindi speakers in those separate canteens.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Separating vegetarian and non-vegetarian kitchens is appropriate, especially when you have people who are religious about being vegetarian.

dinner was one occasion when everyone was relaxed. the food was uniformly disgusting, but the conversation usually flowed freely.  this was also the occasion when seniors shared study tips, horror stories about specific instructors and labs, and tips about "apping" to american universities, acing the GRE, the state of one's b.tech project (BTP), and interesting and weird experimental results etc.  nobody cared what was on the other guy's plate.  i am hoping things stay that way (except the menu which could use a makeover) and that idiot pan-chewing, illiterate govt busybodies don't ruin things.

If there is a separate Veg and non-veg canteens such discussions will cease to exist ? Why O why ?

When vegetarian parents eat exclusively in vegetarian hotels what is wrong in expecting their wards to eat in vegetarian canteens ? They are the ones who pay for their kids.

bw wrote:why only the IITs and IIMs?

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Separating vegetarian and non-vegetarian kitchens is appropriate, especially when you have people who are religious about being vegetarian.

dinner was one occasion when everyone was relaxed. the food was uniformly disgusting, but the conversation usually flowed freely.  this was also the occasion when seniors shared study tips, horror stories about specific instructors and labs, and tips about "apping" to american universities, acing the GRE, the state of one's b.tech project (BTP), and interesting and weird experimental results etc.  nobody cared what was on the other guy's plate.  i am hoping things stay that way (except the menu which could use a makeover) and that idiot pan-chewing, illiterate govt busybodies don't ruin things.

If there is a separate Veg and non-veg canteens such discussions will cease to exist ? Why O why ?

When vegetarian parents eat exclusively in vegetarian hotels what is wrong in expecting their wards to eat in vegetarian canteens ? They are the ones who pay for their kids.

i am sorry, but this is an asinine suggestion.  the "kids" are young adult men who can think and make decisions for themselves.  in the years that i was an undergraduate student, the dinner table was a place of great conversation -- the happenings of the day, academic discussions, discussions on music, girls, good natured ribbing of friends, assignment problems, and conversations about just about anything under the sun took place.  nobody cared about what was on their own plates, let alone their neighbor's.  this was not even an issue that required a debate back in the day.  why is the pan-chewing BJP goon making this an issue, when the students themselves haven't said anything?

let the BJP goon limit the ghetto-ising to whatever hole he lives in.

A recent attempt to revive culinary segregation, reportedly among the well-fed denizens of institutions of technical learning, with the endorsement of the Ministry of Human Resource Development (MHRD), is designed to control what students eat on campus. In response to the anguished plea purportedly by some parents of youngsters who join IITs, IIMs and medical schools across the country, the MHRD has thought fit to ask these august institutions to report as to what steps they are taking to safeguard Bharatiya sanskriti (Indian culture); in other words, to `.

The immediate provocation is what the complainants — one being Shankarlal Satendra Kumar Jain, speaking on behalf of parents — call the propagation of Paschyatik sanskriti (western culture) through the sly introduction of eggs, meat and fish into the diets of the hard-working students who make it to these institutions (at least one complaint has come from Kota, Rajasthan, which hosts the academic centres that prepare students to crack the tough entrance exams to these institutions).

In a letter sent to several institutions of higher learning, the ‘Bharatiya Sanskriti Rakshak’ as the group describes itself, claims that previous complaints to the MHRD fell on deaf ears, and met with the response: “IITs, etc are institutions of learning, not for [saving] religion.” With the new government led by Narendra Modi in place, the ‘Bharatiya Sanskriti Rakshaks’ have been emboldened to demand separate vegetarian mess in these halls of learning.

It is striking that the call for the “separate” mess comes a full circle from a century ago, though emerging at a very different point. In the early twentieth century in the princely state of Mysore, for instance, caste-based hostels were established as a way of ensuring greater inclusion of those previously excluded from institutions of elementary and higher education.

Adi Karnatakas, Lingayats, Kurubas and Vokkaligas were able to enter schools and colleges in the big towns only because of the sectarian hostels in these places. The preservation of their distinctive food cultures was the premise on which families allowed attendance at school. (They still retained some injunctions against women’s education).

We have travelled a long way from those days: our democratic republic carved out a new space in the university system, through which new futures could be imagined. After a brief interregnum of communal dining, are we returning to a newly secularised caste order? 

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Separating vegetarian and non-vegetarian kitchens is appropriate, especially when you have people who are religious about being vegetarian.

dinner was one occasion when everyone was relaxed. the food was uniformly disgusting, but the conversation usually flowed freely.  this was also the occasion when seniors shared study tips, horror stories about specific instructors and labs, and tips about "apping" to american universities, acing the GRE, the state of one's b.tech project (BTP), and interesting and weird experimental results etc.  nobody cared what was on the other guy's plate.  i am hoping things stay that way (except the menu which could use a makeover) and that idiot pan-chewing, illiterate govt busybodies don't ruin things.

If there is a separate Veg and non-veg canteens such discussions will cease to exist ? Why O why ?

When vegetarian parents eat exclusively in vegetarian hotels what is wrong in expecting their wards to eat in vegetarian canteens ? They are the ones who pay for their kids.

i am sorry, but this is an asinine suggestion.  the "kids" are young adult men who can think and make decisions for themselves.  in the years that i was an undergraduate student, the dinner table was a place of great conversation -- the happenings of the day, academic discussions, discussions on music, girls, good natured ribbing of friends, assignment problems, and conversations about just about anything under the sun took place.  nobody cared about what was on their own plates, let alone their neighbor's.  this was not even an issue that required a debate back in the day.  why is the pan-chewing BJP goon making this an issue, when the students themselves haven't said anything?

let the BJP goon limit the ghetto-ising to whatever hole he lives in.

You did not answer my question except to repeat what you wrote.

How will separating the veg and non beg canteens stop all the great things that you described?

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

How will separating the veg and non beg canteens stop all the great things that you described?

He was reading what he wanted to read, not what was written. A lot of information and evidence are gathered by Sikularists (obviously, superior beings) in this fashion.

New Delhi: HRD minister Smriti Irani's solo run in the ministry came to an abrupt end with Prime Minister Narendra Modi bringing in two MoS, one of them a former RSS pracharak.

The two, include former RSS pracharak Ram Shankar Katheria and Upendra Kushwaha.

With Irani, conspicuous by her absence at the swearing-in ceremony on Sunday, and the appointment of Katheria, a professor and Kushwaha, a lecturer, has the RSS finally had its way on pushing their educational reform agenda in the HRD Ministry?  Through this appointment the RSS hopes to ensure that historical figures from the organisation are not ignored in school and college curriculum, and history books not distorted.