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Post by Seva Lamberdar Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:58 am

ALIGARH: Turning down the demand of students of Women's College, Aligarh Muslim University, for access to the varsity's Maulana Azad Library, vice-chancellor Lt Gen Zameer Uddin Shah has said there would be "four times more boys" in the library if girls were allowed in.

"The issue is not of discipline, but of space. Our library is packed," the VC said, justifying why the girls were not allowed membership.

Women's College principal Naima Gulrez, echoed the VC's views. Addressing the audience on Monday during the oath-taking ceremony of the new students' union, she said, "We understand the demand for access to the library. But have you girls ever seen the library? It is jam-packed with boys. If girls too were to be present in it, the discipline issue might crop up."

Students of the Women's College are not allowed membership of the Maulana Azad Library, reportedly better stocked than the Women's College library. Several previous students' unions, too, had demanded access to the famed Maulana Azad Library, located within AMU and 3 km from the Women's College. ....................

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/agra/Girls-in-AMU-library-will-attract-boys-VC/articleshow/45101345.cms
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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:30 am



..And this VC is a retd Lt. Gen??? So all that "secular training of 4 decades is of absolutely no use. He just became a more virulent follower of the Koran on all its detrimental aspects.

Dont hold your breath on any "self-proclaimed" philosophers and enlightened SuCHer to comment. They want to protect their egalitarian image by avoiding all the controversial issues - caused by the controversial religion all over the world.

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Post by truthbetold Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:57 am

I wonder why cd or merlot did not post this news item.

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Post by southindian Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:58 am

truthbetold wrote:I wonder why cd or merlot did not post this news item.
Maybe... due to fear of fatwa or something?
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Post by Merlot Daruwala Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:39 am

truthbetold wrote:I wonder why cd or merlot did not post this news item.

Only chaddis and closeted chaddis like you obsess over Muslims and their weird hangups. Why would I care abt what goes on at some provincial cesspool like the AMU??
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Post by truthbetold Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:03 pm

Merlot Daruwala wrote:
truthbetold wrote:I wonder why cd or merlot did not post this news item.

Only chaddis and closeted chaddis like you obsess over Muslims and their weird hangups. Why would I care abt what goes on at some provincial cesspool like the AMU??

Yeah right. You only worry about provincial cesspool like mangalore bar when Hindu zealots were involved. Whatever suits your self created illusionary logic.

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Post by Merlot Daruwala Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:18 pm

truthbetold wrote:
Merlot Daruwala wrote:
truthbetold wrote:I wonder why cd or merlot did not post this news item.

Only chaddis and closeted chaddis like you obsess over Muslims and their weird hangups. Why would I care abt what goes on at some provincial cesspool like the AMU??

Yeah right.  You only worry about provincial cesspool like mangalore bar when Hindu zealots were involved. Whatever suits your self created illusionary logic.
That's right. When buffoons start dictating - in the name of culture - what I or my female relatives and friends should or shouldn't do, that does concern me and I'll show them their place very forcefully. That, of course, would be too much to expect from limpwristed chaddis and wannabes like you.
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Post by truthbetold Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:34 pm

Some people get limp wristed and tongue tied when comes to be critical of Islamic terrorism and yet claim that as secular position. If you don't have balls, you can't be a man.

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Post by Kris Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:42 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:ALIGARH: Turning down the demand of students of Women's College, Aligarh Muslim University, for access to the varsity's Maulana Azad Library, vice-chancellor Lt Gen Zameer Uddin Shah has said there would be "four times more boys" in the library if girls were allowed in.

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There is something sexy about girls who hang out libraries>>> That will attract boys to the library---->>> That is a bad thing

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:04 pm

Kris wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:ALIGARH: Turning down the demand of students of Women's College, Aligarh Muslim University, for access to the varsity's Maulana Azad Library, vice-chancellor Lt Gen Zameer Uddin Shah has said there would be "four times more boys" in the library if girls were allowed in.

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There is something sexy about girls who hang out libraries>>> That will attract boys to the library---->>> That is a bad thing
This Univ. also has a significant number of non-Muslim male students. That could also be the reason in having the girls, mostly Muslims, kept out of the main library (a hang out for many male students, Muslim and non-Muslim).
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Post by Kris Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:22 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Kris wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:ALIGARH: Turning down the demand of students of Women's College, Aligarh Muslim University, for access to the varsity's Maulana Azad Library, vice-chancellor Lt Gen Zameer Uddin Shah has said there would be "four times more boys" in the library if girls were allowed in.

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There is something sexy about girls who hang out libraries>>> That will attract boys to the library---->>> That is a bad thing
This Univ. also has a significant number of non-Muslim male students. That could also be the reason in having the girls, mostly Muslims, kept out of the main library (a hang out for many male students, Muslim and non-Muslim).
>>>Ok, there's the rub then. I didn't know this subtext.

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Post by Merlot Daruwala Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:05 pm

truthbetold wrote:Some people get limp wristed and tongue tied when comes to be critical of Islamic terrorism and yet claim that as secular position.
Yeah, that's just silly. Everyone knows that 500-word essays of the blindingly obvious are the most courageous and effective counter-terrorism responses.

Degrade and destroy by boring ISIS and All Qaeda to tears (Suchers are collateral damage)!

truthbetold wrote: If you don't have balls,  you can't be a man.
Stop dragging Upps Aunty into every argument!
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Post by FluteHolder Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:14 pm

Kris wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Kris wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:ALIGARH: Turning down the demand of students of Women's College, Aligarh Muslim University, for access to the varsity's Maulana Azad Library, vice-chancellor Lt Gen Zameer Uddin Shah has said there would be "four times more boys" in the library if girls were allowed in.

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There is something sexy about girls who hang out libraries>>> That will attract boys to the library---->>> That is a bad thing
This Univ. also has a significant number of non-Muslim male students. That could also be the reason in having the girls, mostly Muslims, kept out of the main library (a hang out for many male students, Muslim and non-Muslim).
>>>Ok, there's the rub then. I didn't know this subtext.

Aside, why there is NO 'kiss of love'  or 'hug of love'  protests in AMU? This will reduce the need for anyone going to library.

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Post by truthbetold Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:17 pm

Merlot
Your pathetic attempt to wiggle out of a lost argument is made worse by your even pitiful effort to drag in upps aunty. Beg the Kansas wizard to give you some courage.

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Post by Guest Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:22 pm

If space is an issue, then ban the boys and keep the girls. simble work for all solution.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:43 pm

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:If space is an issue, then ban the boys and keep the girls. simble work for all solution.

Yeah... When did Boys start going to the libraries ? In fact, they should encourage ALL girls to go to library in the hope the boys also will go to library. Any hanky panky can be monitored and (reasonable) silence will have to be maintained.

If the woman gets raped - it is the woman's fault

If the man gets attracted to a woman - it is the woman's fault

If the man is not attracted to a woman - it is also the woman's fault

If the man is attracted to another man - then also it is the woman's fault.

Imagine the response of the Center - if it had been UPA and Madam Mohan Singh.

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Post by confuzzled dude Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:48 pm

Why are these RSSites all riled up, isn't this on par with how they like to treat Hindu women, in general?

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Post by confuzzled dude Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:52 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Beatrix Kiddo wrote:If space is an issue, then ban the boys and keep the girls. simble work for all solution.

Yeah... When did Boys start going to the libraries ? In fact, they should encourage ALL girls to go to library in the hope the boys also will go to library. Any hanky panky can be monitored and (reasonable) silence will have to be maintained.

If the woman gets raped - it is the woman's fault

If the man gets attracted to a woman - it is the woman's fault

If the man is not attracted to a woman - it is also the woman's fault

If the man is attracted to another man - then also it is the woman's fault.

Imagine the response of the Center - if it had been UPA and Madam Mohan Singh.
You mean separate canteens for vegetarians is very forward thinking but this is not?!

Apparently, this is not the first time this issue was raised  
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/amu-womens-college-students-seek-more-liberal-rules/article2478115.ece

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/girl-students-of-aligarh-battle-to-use-pg-library/article2474324.ece#comments

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:31 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
You mean separate canteens for vegetarians is very forward thinking but this is not?!

Apparently, this is not the first time this issue was raised  
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/amu-womens-college-students-seek-more-liberal-rules/article2478115.ece

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/girl-students-of-aligarh-battle-to-use-pg-library/article2474324.ece#comments

So you are ok with the AMU decision to bar women from the central library....If not what are you saying.?

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Post by truthbetold Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:40 am

Uppili,

You must remember who you are talking to. Confused.

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Post by truthbetold Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:51 am

Is it confusion or deliberate attempt to deflect criticism?

Cd and merlot use many tricks to protect their favorite minorities. A truly liberal and secular person would find
Aligarh Muslim university's action barring women to enter library as gender bias, religious stupidity, unscientific , and   So 7th century. The same person would have no hesitation to condemn hooliganism against women going to bar or young couples in park. Those who try to confuse such simple logic are opportunists or closet partisans.

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Post by southindian Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:28 am

Seva Lamberdar wrote:ALIGARH: Turning down the demand of students of Women's College, Aligarh Muslim University, for access to the varsity's Maulana Azad Library, vice-chancellor Lt Gen Zameer Uddin Shah has said there would be "four times more boys" in the library if girls were allowed in.

"The issue is not of discipline, but of space. Our library is packed," the VC said, justifying why the girls were not allowed membership.

Women's College principal Naima Gulrez, echoed the VC's views. Addressing the audience on Monday during the oath-taking ceremony of the new students' union, she said, "We understand the demand for access to the library. But have you girls ever seen the library? It is jam-packed with boys. If girls too were to be present in it, the discipline issue might crop up."

Students of the Women's College are not allowed membership of the Maulana Azad Library, reportedly better stocked than the Women's College library. Several previous students' unions, too, had demanded access to the famed Maulana Azad Library, located within AMU and 3 km from the Women's College. ....................

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/agra/Girls-in-AMU-library-will-attract-boys-VC/articleshow/45101345.cms
I don't see this as an AMU or a Muslim issue. UP has a CM whose father wants to pardon rapists when he says, "Boys will be boys".

Mulayam Singh could also have said the same without missing a beat. Many of these people live in Haryana, Punjab, Bihar and believe me in TN and AP too. I have come across with morons in all of these states.
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Post by confuzzled dude Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:44 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
You mean separate canteens for vegetarians is very forward thinking but this is not?!

Apparently, this is not the first time this issue was raised  
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/amu-womens-college-students-seek-more-liberal-rules/article2478115.ece

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/girl-students-of-aligarh-battle-to-use-pg-library/article2474324.ece#comments

So you are ok with the AMU decision to bar women from the central library....If not what are you saying.?
Aren't you one of the gentlemen thought it was wonderful and progressive move to have separate canteens for vegetarians, so why are you complaining about this practice at AMU, isn't this similar to what you were preaching the other day?

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:05 am

A famous movie song with AMU backdrop,

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Post by confuzzled dude Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:07 am

truthbetold wrote:Is it confusion or deliberate attempt to deflect criticism?

Cd and merlot use many tricks to protect their favorite minorities. A truly liberal and secular person would find
Aligarh Muslim university's action barring women to enter library as gender bias, religious stupidity, unscientific , and   So 7th century. The same person would have no hesitation to condemn hooliganism against women going to bar or young couples in park. Those who try to confuse such simple logic are opportunists or closet partisans.
Context, my friend, don't try to take my comments out of context; You've obviously missed my point in your haste to label me (or merlot) as opportunists. Just like those BJP/RSS fools i.e. self-appointed guardians of Hindu sanskriti, who want to control how a hindu girl should be dressed or behave, these idiots at AMU have appointed themselves as watchdog of Muslim women.

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:19 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Is it confusion or deliberate attempt to deflect criticism?

Cd and merlot use many tricks to protect their favorite minorities. A truly liberal and secular person would find
Aligarh Muslim university's action barring women to enter library as gender bias, religious stupidity, unscientific , and   So 7th century. The same person would have no hesitation to condemn hooliganism against women going to bar or young couples in park. Those who try to confuse such simple logic are opportunists or closet partisans.
Context, my friend, don't try to take my comments out of context; You've obviously missed my point in your haste to label me (or merlot) as opportunists. Just like those BJP/RSS fools i.e. self-appointed guardians of Hindu sanskriti, who want to control how a hindu girl should be dressed or behave, these idiots at AMU have appointed themselves as watchdog of Muslim women.

Why is that whenever there is a discussion / controversy related to some custom or issue involving the Muslims, others (non-Muslims) also are dragged into it, such as people giving the explanation that it's not just the Muslims doing or having such things, but others also have same / similar things / issues?
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Post by confuzzled dude Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:28 am

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Is it confusion or deliberate attempt to deflect criticism?

Cd and merlot use many tricks to protect their favorite minorities. A truly liberal and secular person would find
Aligarh Muslim university's action barring women to enter library as gender bias, religious stupidity, unscientific , and   So 7th century. The same person would have no hesitation to condemn hooliganism against women going to bar or young couples in park. Those who try to confuse such simple logic are opportunists or closet partisans.
Context, my friend, don't try to take my comments out of context; You've obviously missed my point in your haste to label me (or merlot) as opportunists. Just like those BJP/RSS fools i.e. self-appointed guardians of Hindu sanskriti, who want to control how a hindu girl should be dressed or behave, these idiots at AMU have appointed themselves as watchdog of Muslim women.

Why is that whenever there is a discussion / controversy related to some custom or issue involving the Muslims, others (non-Muslims) also are dragged into it, such as people giving the explanation that it's not just the Muslims doing or having such things, but others also have same / similar things / issues?
Sevaji, if I may, please go through this thread and let me know who brought up non-Muslims   in to the discussion first and who agreed with love-jihad angle first? It wasn't me.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:41 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
You mean separate canteens for vegetarians is very forward thinking but this is not?!

Apparently, this is not the first time this issue was raised  
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/amu-womens-college-students-seek-more-liberal-rules/article2478115.ece

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/girl-students-of-aligarh-battle-to-use-pg-library/article2474324.ece#comments

So you are ok with the AMU decision to bar women from the central library....If not what are you saying.?
Aren't you one of the gentlemen thought it was wonderful and progressive move to have separate canteens for vegetarians, so why are you complaining about this practice at AMU, isn't this similar to what you were preaching the other day?

AGAIN: So you are ok with the AMU decision to bar women from the central library....If not what are you saying.?

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Post by confuzzled dude Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:20 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
You mean separate canteens for vegetarians is very forward thinking but this is not?!

Apparently, this is not the first time this issue was raised  
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/amu-womens-college-students-seek-more-liberal-rules/article2478115.ece

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/girl-students-of-aligarh-battle-to-use-pg-library/article2474324.ece#comments

So you are ok with the AMU decision to bar women from the central library....If not what are you saying.?
Aren't you one of the gentlemen thought it was wonderful and progressive move to have separate canteens for vegetarians, so why are you complaining about this practice at AMU, isn't this similar to what you were preaching the other day?

AGAIN: So you are ok with the AMU decision to bar women from the central library....If not what are you saying.?
Is this a rhetorical question? Had you opened the link(s) that I posted & made an attempt to read those articles, you'd have understood my position.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:06 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
You mean separate canteens for vegetarians is very forward thinking but this is not?!

Apparently, this is not the first time this issue was raised  
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/amu-womens-college-students-seek-more-liberal-rules/article2478115.ece

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/girl-students-of-aligarh-battle-to-use-pg-library/article2474324.ece#comments

So you are ok with the AMU decision to bar women from the central library....If not what are you saying.?
Aren't you one of the gentlemen thought it was wonderful and progressive move to have separate canteens for vegetarians, so why are you complaining about this practice at AMU, isn't this similar to what you were preaching the other day?

AGAIN: So you are ok with the AMU decision to bar women from the central library....If not what are you saying.?
Is this a rhetorical question? Had you opened the link(s) that I posted & made an attempt to read those articles, you'd have understood my position.

YES or NO. Not Umpteen links to draw own conclusion of what YOU might think - which you will disagree anyway....(Hope you are not called to a court as a witness. You will be held on Contempt charges by the Judge).

One last chance:

YES or NO.

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Post by Guest Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:21 pm

That's a muslim university, right? What else does one expect? I don't understand this hue and cry. If you don't like the unfairness of it all, don't get your daughters admitted in it. Simple!

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Post by confuzzled dude Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:10 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

So you are ok with the AMU decision to bar women from the central library....If not what are you saying.?
Aren't you one of the gentlemen thought it was wonderful and progressive move to have separate canteens for vegetarians, so why are you complaining about this practice at AMU, isn't this similar to what you were preaching the other day?

AGAIN: So you are ok with the AMU decision to bar women from the central library....If not what are you saying.?
Is this a rhetorical question? Had you opened the link(s) that I posted & made an attempt to read those articles, you'd have understood my position.

YES or NO.  Not Umpteen links to draw own conclusion of what YOU might think - which you will disagree anyway....(Hope you are not called to a court as a witness. You will be held on Contempt charges by the Judge).

One last chance:

YES or NO.
Stop being lazy. I've already expressed my view, read the thread over again.

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confuzzled dude wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

YES or NO.  Not Umpteen links to draw own conclusion of what YOU might think - which you will disagree anyway....(Hope you are not called to a court as a witness. You will be held on Contempt charges by the Judge).

One last chance:

YES or NO.
Stop being lazy. I've already expressed my view, read the thread over again.

okay...you are fully supportive of the AMU action.

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