Buying an electric car
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Buying an electric car
I have decided to lease an electric car. It will be our second car, so not worried too much about the range. I will be using it mostly for commuting to and from the city, which is 15 miles away. I have test-driven the Nissan Leaf, the BMW i3 and the Mercedes B Class. I am veering towards the last. Anyone here has experience with an electric car? Any recommendations?
Idéfix- Posts : 8808
Join date : 2012-04-26
Location : Berkeley, CA
Re: Buying an electric car
I do not have any particular recommendation. The TSLA is coming out with a cheaper variant. Not sure when it is out (2015). I believe it is slated to be around 35K.Idéfix wrote:I have decided to lease an electric car. It will be our second car, so not worried too much about the range. I will be using it mostly for commuting to and from the city, which is 15 miles away. I have test-driven the Nissan Leaf, the BMW i3 and the Mercedes B Class. I am veering towards the last. Anyone here has experience with an electric car? Any recommendations?
But I am curious to know, on what aspects do we compare electric cars. For example,
a) Miles on single charge
b) Do any of them have Gas Backup ?
c) Acceleration ability
d) Maximum speed
e) Apart from usual recreational stuff
f) Recently making into regular SUV's (Side camera's , back camera,
automatic obstacle detection, proximity warning etc..)
1) Do the electric cars have these ? The features in (f) are cool features.
2) I am also interested in understanding, why anyone should Lease instead of
buying it outright (with an auto Loan) ?
3) I presume you went for lease predominantly because the technology changes so fast ,
and you want an easy option to go for something better. Is that right ?
4) How does the economics compare for buy Vs Lease ? I always thought buying with auto loan
is better than lease for owning cars. Can you clarify ?
5) If I lease a car, then carpet , seats are all going to have wear and tear.
Won't that be a problem when you sell it back to the dealer ?
rawemotions- Posts : 1690
Join date : 2011-05-03
Re: Buying an electric car
The primary reason for lease decision is that I expect the car to be obsolete in the next 3 years or so, thanks to rapid technological advances. If I buy the car, I would likely want to upgrade in that 3 year timeframe, at which point the electric cars of today will be severely depreciated.
If the wear and tear is more than usual levels, I expect I will have to pay for it when you return the car at the end of the lease.
The key features I looked into are items a and c. The BMW i3 has a gas option, the others don't. The BMW and the Merc both have a lot of the features in (f). They are similar in 0-60 acceleration, while the Leaf is much slower. They all top out around 100 mph.
I am intrigued by the upcoming Tesla, but I can't wait. I need a car in the next few weeks.
If the wear and tear is more than usual levels, I expect I will have to pay for it when you return the car at the end of the lease.
The key features I looked into are items a and c. The BMW i3 has a gas option, the others don't. The BMW and the Merc both have a lot of the features in (f). They are similar in 0-60 acceleration, while the Leaf is much slower. They all top out around 100 mph.
I am intrigued by the upcoming Tesla, but I can't wait. I need a car in the next few weeks.
Idéfix- Posts : 8808
Join date : 2012-04-26
Location : Berkeley, CA
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why electric car? is primary purpose to save on gas or save the planet? coz way things are going, saving on gas will not be a valid reason much longer...it'll end up being an expensive hobby without much in the way of fun (unless you equate driving an electric in itself to be fun)
Propagandhi711- Posts : 6941
Join date : 2011-04-29
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Save the world + get carpool sticker for doing my part. Mostly the carpool sticker actually. It will make a difference of at least 15 minutes each way.Propagandhi711 wrote:why electric car? is primary purpose to save on gas or save the planet? coz way things are going, saving on gas will not be a valid reason much longer...it'll end up being an expensive hobby without much in the way of fun (unless you equate driving an electric in itself to be fun)
It's good to see $3/gallon gas, but I wonder if this a blip or a long-term trend.
Idéfix- Posts : 8808
Join date : 2012-04-26
Location : Berkeley, CA
Re: Buying an electric car
Idéfix wrote:Save the world + get carpool sticker for doing my part. Mostly the carpool sticker actually. It will make a difference of at least 15 minutes each way.Propagandhi711 wrote:why electric car? is primary purpose to save on gas or save the planet? coz way things are going, saving on gas will not be a valid reason much longer...it'll end up being an expensive hobby without much in the way of fun (unless you equate driving an electric in itself to be fun)
It's good to see $3/gallon gas, but I wonder if this a blip or a long-term trend.
I keep reading that oil is going back to 60-70 as long term sustainable price point is somewhere at that level per analysts
Propagandhi711- Posts : 6941
Join date : 2011-04-29
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Idéfix wrote:Save the world + get carpool sticker for doing my part. Mostly the carpool sticker actually. It will make a difference of at least 15 minutes each way.Propagandhi711 wrote:why electric car? is primary purpose to save on gas or save the planet? coz way things are going, saving on gas will not be a valid reason much longer...it'll end up being an expensive hobby without much in the way of fun (unless you equate driving an electric in itself to be fun)
It's good to see $3/gallon gas, but I wonder if this a blip or a long-term trend.
with gas prices where they are, why not look into a prius? a compromise between all electric and a regular IC engine. i don't think the gas prices are a blip.
MaxEntropy_Man- Posts : 14702
Join date : 2011-04-28
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Prius has a plug-in hybrid now. Mine is giving me 52+ miles/Gal.Idéfix wrote:Save the world + get carpool sticker for doing my part. Mostly the carpool sticker actually. It will make a difference of at least 15 minutes each way.Propagandhi711 wrote:why electric car? is primary purpose to save on gas or save the planet? coz way things are going, saving on gas will not be a valid reason much longer...it'll end up being an expensive hobby without much in the way of fun (unless you equate driving an electric in itself to be fun)
It's good to see $3/gallon gas, but I wonder if this a blip or a long-term trend.
Obnoxious- Posts : 752
Join date : 2012-05-09
Re: Buying an electric car
Idéfix wrote:I have decided to lease an electric car. It will be our second car, so not worried too much about the range. I will be using it mostly for commuting to and from the city, which is 15 miles away. I have test-driven the Nissan Leaf, the BMW i3 and the Mercedes B Class. I am veering towards the last. Anyone here has experience with an electric car? Any recommendations?
Congratulations..... You have now proven your credentials as not only a "green lover", but also a socialism-loving Naxalite, a lover of poor people, and a great "minimalist" and not to mention the lover of Jihadi loving Kashmiri musalman leaders.
I think you should wait for this one or you can make this your third car - The ultima car - to match your Kaliforia status.
Marathadi-Saamiyaar- Posts : 17675
Join date : 2011-04-30
Age : 110
Re: Buying an electric car
Guy asks for an advice on cars and gets slammed for presumed political leanings. It is his money. Let him spend it.
truthbetold- Posts : 6799
Join date : 2011-06-07
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Yeah, he is very progressive (unlike people like me). I still drive a 1983 S series Mercedes, waste money on gas and pollute the environment. I am no different from the pieceful who preserve and protect the 7th century book. Shame on me.truthbetold wrote:Guy asks for an advice on cars and gets slammed for presumed political leanings. It is his money. Let him spend it.
Vakavaka Pakapaka- Posts : 7611
Join date : 2012-08-24
Re: Buying an electric car
Looks like Audi is coming out with fuel cell based cars.
http://news.yahoo.com/audi-announces-mastered-hydrogen-unveils-first-fuel-cell-202346713.html
http://news.yahoo.com/audi-announces-mastered-hydrogen-unveils-first-fuel-cell-202346713.html
b_A- Posts : 1642
Join date : 2011-05-08
Re: Buying an electric car
>>>Not much by way of input on electrical cars, but I am getting a little tired of shelling out dollars on german cars even for routine upkeep. Am thinking of going back to japanese next time around.Idéfix wrote:I have decided to lease an electric car. It will be our second car, so not worried too much about the range. I will be using it mostly for commuting to and from the city, which is 15 miles away. I have test-driven the Nissan Leaf, the BMW i3 and the Mercedes B Class. I am veering towards the last. Anyone here has experience with an electric car? Any recommendations?
Kris- Posts : 5461
Join date : 2011-04-28
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Kris wrote:>>>Not much by way of input on electrical cars, but I am getting a little tired of shelling out dollars on german cars even for routine upkeep. Am thinking of going back to japanese next time around.Idéfix wrote:I have decided to lease an electric car. It will be our second car, so not worried too much about the range. I will be using it mostly for commuting to and from the city, which is 15 miles away. I have test-driven the Nissan Leaf, the BMW i3 and the Mercedes B Class. I am veering towards the last. Anyone here has experience with an electric car? Any recommendations?
good idea..I had an audi few years ago and that's enough experience with the krauts' fleecing for parts and service. that said, my dream has always been to own a 911 twin turbo porsche which will remain a dream until I win the lottery
Propagandhi711- Posts : 6941
Join date : 2011-04-29
Re: Buying an electric car
Propagandhi711 wrote:Kris wrote:>>>Not much by way of input on electrical cars, but I am getting a little tired of shelling out dollars on german cars even for routine upkeep. Am thinking of going back to japanese next time around.Idéfix wrote:I have decided to lease an electric car. It will be our second car, so not worried too much about the range. I will be using it mostly for commuting to and from the city, which is 15 miles away. I have test-driven the Nissan Leaf, the BMW i3 and the Mercedes B Class. I am veering towards the last. Anyone here has experience with an electric car? Any recommendations?
good idea..I had an audi few years ago and that's enough experience with the krauts' fleecing for parts and service. that said, my dream has always been to own a 911 twin turbo porsche which will remain a dream until I win the lottery
>>>I know the feeling. My neighbor got a HELOC and got a Porsche. My ex-boss's husband refurbishes Italian cars. She would come in a sexed up Maserati once in awhile. The thought has crossed my mind to talk to him.
Kris- Posts : 5461
Join date : 2011-04-28
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That's why you get rid of bimmers, promptly after 4 years.Kris wrote:>>>Not much by way of input on electrical cars, but I am getting a little tired of shelling out dollars on german cars even for routine upkeep. Am thinking of going back to japanese next time around.Idéfix wrote:I have decided to lease an electric car. It will be our second car, so not worried too much about the range. I will be using it mostly for commuting to and from the city, which is 15 miles away. I have test-driven the Nissan Leaf, the BMW i3 and the Mercedes B Class. I am veering towards the last. Anyone here has experience with an electric car? Any recommendations?
confuzzled dude- Posts : 10205
Join date : 2011-05-08
Re: Buying an electric car
A colleague of mine had i3 for a couple of months now, he seems to be happy. Range is around 85 miles, less in pure highway driving. Interesting thing about it is, you don't actually hit the brake, you take your leg off the gas pedal and it uses the energy to charge the battery on the go, in other words helps extending the range.Idéfix wrote:I have decided to lease an electric car. It will be our second car, so not worried too much about the range. I will be using it mostly for commuting to and from the city, which is 15 miles away. I have test-driven the Nissan Leaf, the BMW i3 and the Mercedes B Class. I am veering towards the last. Anyone here has experience with an electric car? Any recommendations?
confuzzled dude- Posts : 10205
Join date : 2011-05-08
Re: Buying an electric car
Kris wrote:Propagandhi711 wrote:Kris wrote:>>>Not much by way of input on electrical cars, but I am getting a little tired of shelling out dollars on german cars even for routine upkeep. Am thinking of going back to japanese next time around.Idéfix wrote:I have decided to lease an electric car. It will be our second car, so not worried too much about the range. I will be using it mostly for commuting to and from the city, which is 15 miles away. I have test-driven the Nissan Leaf, the BMW i3 and the Mercedes B Class. I am veering towards the last. Anyone here has experience with an electric car? Any recommendations?
good idea..I had an audi few years ago and that's enough experience with the krauts' fleecing for parts and service. that said, my dream has always been to own a 911 twin turbo porsche which will remain a dream until I win the lottery
>>>I know the feeling. My neighbor got a HELOC and got a Porsche. My ex-boss's husband refurbishes Italian cars. She would come in a sexed up Maserati once in awhile. The thought has crossed my mind to talk to him.
that's retarded, to take money out of the house and buy a depreciating asset. italian cars - I wouldn't recommend unless you have money to burn for brakes, clutches and whatnot. much much worse than german vehicles in that aspect. if you want a serious sports car but dont want to burn money on tempermental vehicles with high maintenance costs, you should consider nissan gtr...or the lexus F type or the acura nsx. they dont have the outrageous sex appeal of the italian/german vehicles but are dependable like asian women..slutty in bed but reasonably cheap maintenance and reliable as hell
Propagandhi711- Posts : 6941
Join date : 2011-04-29
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My next door neighbor got rid of BMW and does not have anything good to say about it.
truthbetold- Posts : 6799
Join date : 2011-06-07
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So did I, that shiny piece of shit broke the day after I took delivery.truthbetold wrote:My next door neighbor got rid of BMW and does not have anything good to say about it.
confuzzled dude- Posts : 10205
Join date : 2011-05-08
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Why electric? Just go for the Toyota's latest Hydrogen car - @ 60K it is like a bar of chocolate for the BADs (Bay-Area Desis)
Marathadi-Saamiyaar- Posts : 17675
Join date : 2011-04-30
Age : 110
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>>>The Porsche/HELOC story may have a weirder angle. They have a financial advisor from Wells. I was taken aback when she mentioned this. As for my dream, the Italian car was a fleeting thought, unless it comes at a throwaway price. Most likely, I will end going the Lexus route.Propagandhi711 wrote:Kris wrote:Propagandhi711 wrote:Kris wrote:>>>Not much by way of input on electrical cars, but I am getting a little tired of shelling out dollars on german cars even for routine upkeep. Am thinking of going back to japanese next time around.Idéfix wrote:I have decided to lease an electric car. It will be our second car, so not worried too much about the range. I will be using it mostly for commuting to and from the city, which is 15 miles away. I have test-driven the Nissan Leaf, the BMW i3 and the Mercedes B Class. I am veering towards the last. Anyone here has experience with an electric car? Any recommendations?
good idea..I had an audi few years ago and that's enough experience with the krauts' fleecing for parts and service. that said, my dream has always been to own a 911 twin turbo porsche which will remain a dream until I win the lottery
>>>I know the feeling. My neighbor got a HELOC and got a Porsche. My ex-boss's husband refurbishes Italian cars. She would come in a sexed up Maserati once in awhile. The thought has crossed my mind to talk to him.
that's retarded, to take money out of the house and buy a depreciating asset. italian cars - I wouldn't recommend unless you have money to burn for brakes, clutches and whatnot. much much worse than german vehicles in that aspect. if you want a serious sports car but dont want to burn money on tempermental vehicles with high maintenance costs, you should consider nissan gtr...or the lexus F type or the acura nsx. they dont have the outrageous sex appeal of the italian/german vehicles but are dependable like asian women..slutty in bed but reasonably cheap maintenance and reliable as hell
Kris- Posts : 5461
Join date : 2011-04-28
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Shiny? What color, Comrade?confuzzled dude wrote:So did I, that shiny piece of shit broke the day after I took delivery.truthbetold wrote:My next door neighbor got rid of BMW and does not have anything good to say about it.
Hellsangel- Posts : 14721
Join date : 2011-04-28
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Lexuses as known are rock solid but maintenance isn't cheap. I was looking at maintenance costs a few months ago, in 11 years I shelled out around 11-12 grand including tires & brakes. Of course, these are dealer service charges.Kris wrote:>>>The Porsche/HELOC story may have a weirder angle. They have a financial advisor from Wells. I was taken aback when she mentioned this. As for my dream, the Italian car was a fleeting thought, unless it comes at a throwaway price. Most likely, I will end going the Lexus route.Propagandhi711 wrote:Kris wrote:Propagandhi711 wrote:Kris wrote:
>>>Not much by way of input on electrical cars, but I am getting a little tired of shelling out dollars on german cars even for routine upkeep. Am thinking of going back to japanese next time around.
good idea..I had an audi few years ago and that's enough experience with the krauts' fleecing for parts and service. that said, my dream has always been to own a 911 twin turbo porsche which will remain a dream until I win the lottery
>>>I know the feeling. My neighbor got a HELOC and got a Porsche. My ex-boss's husband refurbishes Italian cars. She would come in a sexed up Maserati once in awhile. The thought has crossed my mind to talk to him.
that's retarded, to take money out of the house and buy a depreciating asset. italian cars - I wouldn't recommend unless you have money to burn for brakes, clutches and whatnot. much much worse than german vehicles in that aspect. if you want a serious sports car but dont want to burn money on tempermental vehicles with high maintenance costs, you should consider nissan gtr...or the lexus F type or the acura nsx. they dont have the outrageous sex appeal of the italian/german vehicles but are dependable like asian women..slutty in bed but reasonably cheap maintenance and reliable as hell
confuzzled dude- Posts : 10205
Join date : 2011-05-08
Re: Buying an electric car
May be import a Mia L. It is cute - looks like a mini Westfalia bus.Idéfix wrote:I have decided to lease an electric car. It will be our second car, so not worried too much about the range. I will be using it mostly for commuting to and from the city, which is 15 miles away. I have test-driven the Nissan Leaf, the BMW i3 and the Mercedes B Class. I am veering towards the last. Anyone here has experience with an electric car? Any recommendations?
Seriously, why waste money on i3 or B. The Nissan is as good.
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