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Post by Hellsangel Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:02 pm

Christian Bale steps into Charlton Heston's shoes.

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Post by Propagandhi711 Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:23 pm

hope he doesnt turn into the nut heston ended up being in his declining years

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Post by Hellsangel Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:48 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:hope he doesnt turn into the nut heston ended up being in his declining years
When he had Alzheimer's?
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Post by bw Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:01 pm

a friend of mine used to watch a lot of heston movies - ben hur, ten commandments, etc.

much to her annoyance, i used to promptly fall asleep within 15-30 minutes into these movies despite her making me tea to aid me stay up and watch with her.


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Post by Kris Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:17 am

bw wrote:a friend of mine used to watch a lot of heston movies - ben hur, ten commandments, etc.

much to her annoyance, i used to promptly fall asleep within 15-30 minutes into these movies despite her making me tea to aid me stay up and watch with her.


>>>Oh come on, Ben Hur was a classic. I am/was not much of a Heston fan, but movies like The 10 Commandments or even Spartacus (with kirk Douglas) tend to be over the top, due to the theme. I'd cut them some slack because of that.

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:21 am

heston -- isn't he the cold, dead nut? did they finally pry it out of his hands?
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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:44 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:heston -- isn't he the cold, dead nut? did they finally pry it out of his hands?

Now...that is not nice to disrespect someone who is no more.


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Post by bw Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:55 am

Kris wrote:
bw wrote:a friend of mine used to watch a lot of heston movies - ben hur, ten commandments, etc.

much to her annoyance, i used to promptly fall asleep within 15-30 minutes into these movies despite her making me tea to aid me stay up and watch with her.


>>>Oh come on, Ben Hur was a classic. I am/was not much of a Heston fan, but movies like The 10 Commandments or even Spartacus (with kirk Douglas) tend to be over the top, due to the theme. I'd cut them some slack because of that.

haha, i am trying to get my kids to watch these movies and facing a lot of resistance. 'sound of music' was rejected when the song "how do you solve a problem like maria" began. my son got up, stopped the movie, declared "problem solved" and went away.

i will check out ben hur from the library today and try my luck with that.

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Post by Hellsangel Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:43 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:heston -- isn't he the cold, dead nut? did they finally pry it out of his hands?
Il Professore, still sore about All Bore?
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Post by Seva Lamberdar Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:27 am

bw wrote:
Kris wrote:
bw wrote:a friend of mine used to watch a lot of heston movies - ben hur, ten commandments, etc.

much to her annoyance, i used to promptly fall asleep within 15-30 minutes into these movies despite her making me tea to aid me stay up and watch with her.


>>>Oh come on, Ben Hur was a classic. I am/was not much of a Heston fan, but movies like The 10 Commandments or even Spartacus (with kirk Douglas) tend to be over the top, due to the theme. I'd cut them some slack because of that.

haha, i am trying to get my kids to watch these movies and facing a lot of resistance.  'sound of music' was rejected when the song "how do you solve a problem like maria" began. my son got up, stopped the movie, declared "problem solved" and went away.

i will check out ben hur from the library today and try my luck with that.
You can try also "Khartoum" (with Heston and Olivier).
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Post by bw Sat Dec 06, 2014 7:25 pm

finally, watched all 222 minutes of 'ben hur' for the first time in my life. for a 1959 movie, the cinematography was commendable. story, characters etc. - typical moralistic hollywood, good guy, bad guy story with all the expected biases.

"ten commandments" is next.

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Post by Hellsangel Sat Dec 06, 2014 7:29 pm

bw wrote:finally, watched all 222 minutes of 'ben hur' for the first time in my life. for a 1959 movie, the cinematography was commendable. story, characters etc. - typical moralistic hollywood, good guy, bad guy story with all the expected biases.

"ten commandments" is next.

What expected biases, Lucy? The Russians were the bad guys?
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Post by bw Sat Dec 06, 2014 7:56 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
bw wrote:finally, watched all 222 minutes of 'ben hur' for the first time in my life. for a 1959 movie, the cinematography was commendable. story, characters etc. - typical moralistic hollywood, good guy, bad guy story with all the expected biases.

"the ten commandments" is next.

What expected biases, Lucy? The Russians were the bad guys?

the religious overtones for one and the sympathetic portrayal of jews.

anyway, this was meant to be a commercial blockbuster and not a serious movie or an accurate portrayal of history. in that sense, i guess it delivered well.

heston's acting was quite ordinary. he is no olivier.

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Post by Hellsangel Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:23 pm

bw wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
bw wrote:finally, watched all 222 minutes of 'ben hur' for the first time in my life. for a 1959 movie, the cinematography was commendable. story, characters etc. - typical moralistic hollywood, good guy, bad guy story with all the expected biases.

"the ten commandments" is next.

What expected biases, Lucy? The Russians were the bad guys?

the religious overtones for one and the sympathetic portrayal of jews.

anyway, this was meant to be a commercial blockbuster and not a serious movie or an accurate portrayal of history. in that sense, i guess it delivered well.

heston's acting was quite ordinary. he is no olivier.

Religious overtones are a Hollywood thing? They also talk about extraterrestrial ( not the illegal kind)aliens a lot.

And Jewish sympathies? If anything, as shown by 'The Passion of the Christ' it was the opposite. After all, they crucified him.

The movie was based on a book by a civil war general.
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Post by bw Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:34 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
bw wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
bw wrote:finally, watched all 222 minutes of 'ben hur' for the first time in my life. for a 1959 movie, the cinematography was commendable. story, characters etc. - typical moralistic hollywood, good guy, bad guy story with all the expected biases.

"the ten commandments" is next.

What expected biases, Lucy? The Russians were the bad guys?

the religious overtones for one and the sympathetic portrayal of jews.

anyway, this was meant to be a commercial blockbuster and not a serious movie or an accurate portrayal of history. in that sense, i guess it delivered well.

heston's acting was quite ordinary. he is no olivier.

Religious overtones are a Hollywood thing? They also talk about extraterrestrial ( not the illegal kind)aliens a lot.

And Jewish sympathies? If anything, as shown by 'The Passion of the Christ' it was the opposite. After all, they crucified him.

The movie was based on a book by a civil war general.

hollywood thing is having a very black and white portrayal of good and evil with good prevailing at the end. piety almost always being the "good" side. most hollywood classics did that - not necessarily a bad thing but not very realistic.

"the last temptation of jesus christ" should be a more interesting movie. i plan to watch that.

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Post by Kris Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:46 pm

bw wrote:finally, watched all 222 minutes of 'ben hur' for the first time in my life. for a 1959 movie, the cinematography was commendable. story, characters etc. - typical moralistic hollywood, good guy, bad guy story with all the expected biases.

"ten commandments" is next.
>>>Come to think of it, I can't recall if I have seen Ben Hur completely. I did like what I saw. The black/white portrayal is par for the course. In a commercial movie, especially of that era, expecting the audience to work the nuances out would have come in the way of telling a grand story. May I recommend Bollywood if you want nuance? Smile

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Post by Kris Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:51 pm

bw wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
bw wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
bw wrote:finally, watched all 222 minutes of 'ben hur' for the first time in my life. for a 1959 movie, the cinematography was commendable. story, characters etc. - typical moralistic hollywood, good guy, bad guy story with all the expected biases.

"the ten commandments" is next.

What expected biases, Lucy? The Russians were the bad guys?

the religious overtones for one and the sympathetic portrayal of jews.

anyway, this was meant to be a commercial blockbuster and not a serious movie or an accurate portrayal of history. in that sense, i guess it delivered well.

heston's acting was quite ordinary. he is no olivier.

Religious overtones are a Hollywood thing? They also talk about extraterrestrial ( not the illegal kind)aliens a lot.

And Jewish sympathies? If anything, as shown by 'The Passion of the Christ' it was the opposite. After all, they crucified him.

The movie was based on a book by a civil war general.

hollywood thing is having a very black and white portrayal of good and evil with good prevailing at the end. piety almost always being the "good" side. most hollywood classics did that - not necessarily a bad thing but not very realistic.

"the last temptation of jesus christ" should be a more interesting movie. i plan to watch that.
>>>No pro-jewish bias there. Our man Gibson sees to that ...

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Post by Hellsangel Sat Dec 27, 2014 11:47 pm

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