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http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/nick-cohen/2015/01/charlie-hebdo-the-truths-that-ought-to-be-self-evident-but-still-arent/
Religious murderers gunned down European freedom in Paris today. Tonight everyone is defiant. I am just back from a ‘Je suis Charlie’ vigil in Trafalgar Square, and the solidarity was good to see. I fear it won’t last. I may be wrong. Perhaps tomorrow’s papers and news programmes will prove their commitment to freedom by republishing the Charlie Hebdo cartoons.
But I doubt they will even have the courage to admit that they are too scared to show them. Instead we will have insidious articles, which condemn freedom of speech as a provocation and make weasel excuses for murder without having the guts to admit it.
The Financial Times was first out of the blocks:
‘Charlie Hebdo is a bastion of the French tradition of hard-hitting satire. It has a long record of mocking, baiting and needling Muslims.’
The writer forgot to add that Charlie Hebdo has a long record of mocking, baiting and needling everyone. It is a satirical magazine in a free country: that is what it does.
Religious murderers gunned down European freedom in Paris today. Tonight everyone is defiant. I am just back from a ‘Je suis Charlie’ vigil in Trafalgar Square, and the solidarity was good to see. I fear it won’t last. I may be wrong. Perhaps tomorrow’s papers and news programmes will prove their commitment to freedom by republishing the Charlie Hebdo cartoons.
But I doubt they will even have the courage to admit that they are too scared to show them. Instead we will have insidious articles, which condemn freedom of speech as a provocation and make weasel excuses for murder without having the guts to admit it.
The Financial Times was first out of the blocks:
‘Charlie Hebdo is a bastion of the French tradition of hard-hitting satire. It has a long record of mocking, baiting and needling Muslims.’
The writer forgot to add that Charlie Hebdo has a long record of mocking, baiting and needling everyone. It is a satirical magazine in a free country: that is what it does.
bw- Posts : 2922
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Re: victim blaming
SUCH psuedos have scored a march on these slow movers and are already suggesting abandoning free speech to avoid "provoking muslims".
I remember the same group lecturing about MF Hussaian's right to picture hindu goddess naked.
Political opportunism trumps free speech.
I remember the same group lecturing about MF Hussaian's right to picture hindu goddess naked.
Political opportunism trumps free speech.
truthbetold- Posts : 6799
Join date : 2011-06-07
Re: victim blaming
truthbetold wrote:SUCH psuedos have scored a march on these slow movers and are already suggesting abandoning free speech to avoid "provoking muslims".
I remember the same group lecturing about MF Hussaian's right to picture hindu goddess naked.
Political opportunism trumps free speech.
Where did you gather this impression? Did a voice in your head tell you this?
Merlot Daruwala- Posts : 5005
Join date : 2011-04-29
Re: victim blaming
MDMerlot Daruwala wrote:truthbetold wrote:SUCH psuedos have scored a march on these slow movers and are already suggesting abandoning free speech to avoid "provoking muslims".
I remember the same group lecturing about MF Hussaian's right to picture hindu goddess naked.
Political opportunism trumps free speech.
Where did you gather this impression? Did a voice in your head tell you this?
You never have any use for facts. Do you?
Read the other thread " what should french do".
Your ignorant arrogance exhibits itself again.
truthbetold- Posts : 6799
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Re: victim blaming
truthbetold wrote:MDMerlot Daruwala wrote:truthbetold wrote:SUCH psuedos have scored a march on these slow movers and are already suggesting abandoning free speech to avoid "provoking muslims".
I remember the same group lecturing about MF Hussaian's right to picture hindu goddess naked.
Political opportunism trumps free speech.
Where did you gather this impression? Did a voice in your head tell you this?
You never have any use for facts. Do you?
Read the other thread " what should french do".
Your ignorant arrogance exhibits itself again.
Posting a link to a *specific* post would be a good way to substantiate your allegation, don't you think?
Merlot Daruwala- Posts : 5005
Join date : 2011-04-29
Re: victim blaming
Are you & HA trying to carve out a niche for yourselves as twisterans of Such?truthbetold wrote:SUCH psuedos have scored a march on these slow movers and are already suggesting abandoning free speech to avoid "provoking muslims".
I remember the same group lecturing about MF Hussaian's right to picture hindu goddess naked.
Political opportunism trumps free speech.
confuzzled dude- Posts : 10205
Join date : 2011-05-08
Re: victim blaming
confuzzled dude wrote:Are you & HA trying to carve out a niche for yourselves as twisterans of Such?truthbetold wrote:SUCH psuedos have scored a march on these slow movers and are already suggesting abandoning free speech to avoid "provoking muslims".
I remember the same group lecturing about MF Hussaian's right to picture hindu goddess naked.
Political opportunism trumps free speech.
Do you remember what was said in those threads, Comrade?
Hellsangel- Posts : 14721
Join date : 2011-04-28
Re: victim blaming
Merlot Daruwala wrote:truthbetold wrote:MDMerlot Daruwala wrote:truthbetold wrote:SUCH psuedos have scored a march on these slow movers and are already suggesting abandoning free speech to avoid "provoking muslims".
I remember the same group lecturing about MF Hussaian's right to picture hindu goddess naked.
Political opportunism trumps free speech.
Where did you gather this impression? Did a voice in your head tell you this?
You never have any use for facts. Do you?
Read the other thread " what should french do".
Your ignorant arrogance exhibits itself again.
Posting a link to a *specific* post would be a good way to substantiate your allegation, don't you think?
Here is a specific link:
https://such.forumotion.com/t29241-what-should-france-do#188237
Hellsangel- Posts : 14721
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Re: victim blaming
Sikularists will find every trick in the book to minimize what the pieceful did in Paris.
For them, Communalism (by Hindus) is the main problem in India, and religious intolerance towards the pieceful is the problem in France, Denmark, the US, etc.
The issue is simple. Just as medieval Europe was pieceful towards Galileo and "witches", so are monomaniacs towards kafirs and infidels. Europe isn't facing fanatic Christians now. So, what should the world do about monomaniacs? Find ways to de-fang and integrate them into society. Blaming everyone except the pieceful, like what fukular Sikularists do, is not a solution.
For Pete's sake, Blasphemy is Semitic garbage. It doesn't exist in Pagan cultures including Hinduism. How many pagan cultures in the world destroy Semitic culture? How about the other way around? It is Fukular to ignore this fundamental difference. Cunning Sikularists play games to the detriment of society.
For them, Communalism (by Hindus) is the main problem in India, and religious intolerance towards the pieceful is the problem in France, Denmark, the US, etc.
The issue is simple. Just as medieval Europe was pieceful towards Galileo and "witches", so are monomaniacs towards kafirs and infidels. Europe isn't facing fanatic Christians now. So, what should the world do about monomaniacs? Find ways to de-fang and integrate them into society. Blaming everyone except the pieceful, like what fukular Sikularists do, is not a solution.
For Pete's sake, Blasphemy is Semitic garbage. It doesn't exist in Pagan cultures including Hinduism. How many pagan cultures in the world destroy Semitic culture? How about the other way around? It is Fukular to ignore this fundamental difference. Cunning Sikularists play games to the detriment of society.
Vakavaka Pakapaka- Posts : 7611
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Re: victim blaming
Twisteran, How is this any different from the calls for gun control/amendments to second amendment? In fact, I was asking for increased sickular-fuckular-muslim activity to counter muslim-chaddis. How is that abandoning free speech?Hellsangel wrote:Merlot Daruwala wrote:truthbetold wrote:MDMerlot Daruwala wrote:truthbetold wrote:SUCH psuedos have scored a march on these slow movers and are already suggesting abandoning free speech to avoid "provoking muslims".
I remember the same group lecturing about MF Hussaian's right to picture hindu goddess naked.
Political opportunism trumps free speech.
Where did you gather this impression? Did a voice in your head tell you this?
You never have any use for facts. Do you?
Read the other thread " what should french do".
Your ignorant arrogance exhibits itself again.
Posting a link to a *specific* post would be a good way to substantiate your allegation, don't you think?
Here is a specific link:
https://such.forumotion.com/t29241-what-should-france-do#188237
confuzzled dude- Posts : 10205
Join date : 2011-05-08
Re: victim blaming
confuzzled dude wrote:Twisteran, How is this any different from the calls for gun control/amendments to second amendment? In fact, I was asking for increased sickular-fuckular-muslim activity to counter muslim-chaddis. How is that abandoning free speech?Hellsangel wrote:Merlot Daruwala wrote:truthbetold wrote:MDMerlot Daruwala wrote:
Where did you gather this impression? Did a voice in your head tell you this?
You never have any use for facts. Do you?
Read the other thread " what should french do".
Your ignorant arrogance exhibits itself again.
Posting a link to a *specific* post would be a good way to substantiate your allegation, don't you think?
Here is a specific link:
https://such.forumotion.com/t29241-what-should-france-do#188237
Sure. Asking journalists to ignore them is what, Comrade?
Hellsangel- Posts : 14721
Join date : 2011-04-28
Re: victim blaming
Did I say a new law should be enacted to prohibit such cartoons, going forward?Hellsangel wrote:confuzzled dude wrote:Twisteran, How is this any different from the calls for gun control/amendments to second amendment? In fact, I was asking for increased sickular-fuckular-muslim activity to counter muslim-chaddis. How is that abandoning free speech?Hellsangel wrote:Merlot Daruwala wrote:truthbetold wrote:
MD
You never have any use for facts. Do you?
Read the other thread " what should french do".
Your ignorant arrogance exhibits itself again.
Posting a link to a *specific* post would be a good way to substantiate your allegation, don't you think?
Here is a specific link:
https://such.forumotion.com/t29241-what-should-france-do#188237
Sure. Asking journalists to ignore them is what, Comrade?
confuzzled dude- Posts : 10205
Join date : 2011-05-08
Re: victim blaming
Asking journalists to ignore them is what, Comrade?confuzzled dude wrote:Did I say a new law should be enacted to prohibit such cartoons, going forward?Hellsangel wrote:confuzzled dude wrote:Twisteran, How is this any different from the calls for gun control/amendments to second amendment? In fact, I was asking for increased sickular-fuckular-muslim activity to counter muslim-chaddis. How is that abandoning free speech?Hellsangel wrote:Merlot Daruwala wrote:
Posting a link to a *specific* post would be a good way to substantiate your allegation, don't you think?
Here is a specific link:
https://such.forumotion.com/t29241-what-should-france-do#188237
Sure. Asking journalists to ignore them is what, Comrade?
Hellsangel- Posts : 14721
Join date : 2011-04-28
Re: victim blaming
Ha
Thanks for posting the link.
Now there may be an effort to walk back some of those posts. But history does preserve some evidence.
Thanks for posting the link.
Now there may be an effort to walk back some of those posts. But history does preserve some evidence.
truthbetold- Posts : 6799
Join date : 2011-06-07
Re: victim blaming
Is this abandonment of free speech?Hellsangel wrote:Asking journalists to ignore them is what, Comrade?confuzzled dude wrote:Did I say a new law should be enacted to prohibit such cartoons, going forward?Hellsangel wrote:confuzzled dude wrote:Twisteran, How is this any different from the calls for gun control/amendments to second amendment? In fact, I was asking for increased sickular-fuckular-muslim activity to counter muslim-chaddis. How is that abandoning free speech?Hellsangel wrote:
Here is a specific link:
https://such.forumotion.com/t29241-what-should-france-do#188237
Sure. Asking journalists to ignore them is what, Comrade?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/05/connecticut-brewery-gandhi-beer-offensive-apologises
confuzzled dude- Posts : 10205
Join date : 2011-05-08
Re: victim blaming
confuzzled dude wrote:Is this abandonment of free speech?Hellsangel wrote:Asking journalists to ignore them is what, Comrade?confuzzled dude wrote:Did I say a new law should be enacted to prohibit such cartoons, going forward?Hellsangel wrote:confuzzled dude wrote:
Twisteran, How is this any different from the calls for gun control/amendments to second amendment? In fact, I was asking for increased sickular-fuckular-muslim activity to counter muslim-chaddis. How is that abandoning free speech?
Sure. Asking journalists to ignore them is what, Comrade?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/05/connecticut-brewery-gandhi-beer-offensive-apologises
Comrade, don't try to divert the topic. No one withdrew the offending beer here and no kalashnikovs were fired at the brewery workers.
Hellsangel- Posts : 14721
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Re: victim blaming
Cd
I will respond to beer question after you responded to earlier questions.
I will respond to beer question after you responded to earlier questions.
truthbetold- Posts : 6799
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