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Post by confuzzled dude Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:35 pm

What will it take for Prime Minister Narendra Modi to speak out about the mounting violence against India’s religious minorities? Attacks at Christian places of worship have prompted no response from the man elected to represent and to protect all of India’s citizens. Nor has he addressed the mass conversion to Hinduism of Christians and Muslims who have been coerced or promised money. Mr. Modi’s continued silence before such troubling intolerance increasingly gives the impression that he either cannot or does not wish to control the fringe elements of the Hindu nationalist right.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/07/opinion/modis-dangerous-silence.html?_r=0

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Post by truthbetold Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:43 pm

What exactly is wrong with people taking up Hindu faith? If they are coerced, they can go back. 

India has seen lot of conversions through various inducements and spreading of falsehoods. Where are all these critics at those times. 

Indian social system is strong enough to refute any forceful conversions in any significant number. The high decibel campaign seems to be as motivated as the underlying conversion effort.

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Post by confuzzled dude Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:11 pm

truthbetold wrote:What exactly is wrong with people taking up Hindu faith? If they are coerced, they can go back. 

India has seen lot of conversions through various inducements and spreading of falsehoods. Where are all these critics at those times. 

Indian social system is strong enough to refute any forceful conversions in any significant number. The high decibel campaign seems to be as motivated as the underlying conversion effort.
I think the way they're going about is what raising the eye brows of many.

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Post by southindian Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:31 pm

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What will it take for Prime Minister Narendra Modi to speak out about the mounting violence against India’s religious minorities? Attacks at Christian places of worship have prompted no response from the man elected to represent and to protect all of India’s citizens. Nor has he addressed the mass conversion to Hinduism of Christians and Muslims who have been coerced or promised money. Mr. Modi’s continued silence before such troubling intolerance increasingly gives the impression that he either cannot or does not wish to control the fringe elements of the Hindu nationalist right.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/07/opinion/modis-dangerous-silence.html?_r=0
Don't go home, if you don't want to go home. Smile

The ones going back home (Ghar Wapsi) should be allowed to go home.

Do you know the rate of "High Caste top position" conversion price in AP, Orissa, TN, Karnataka?

The poor converts get Rs 300 per person in many cities in India.

I believe the men in frock are mad that some folks are taking the money and then doing a Ghar Wapsi.  Naat good. I would do that too. Smile
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Post by SomeProfile Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:26 pm

Why are incidents of church vandalism happening only in Delhi? Why not in any other places in India? Even in Delhi, why is it happening only now, during the election cycle? Why didn't it happen before, and why will it not happen from tomorrow?* Who is the biggest beneficiary of these incidents of church vandalism? Not the BJP for sure! So, yeah, Amit Shah is stupid enough to engineer church vandalism just before an election. GTFO with your idiocy! You are reducing the average IQ of this forum and the nation by your mere existence.

*Yeah, Jesus himself told me that it's not gonna happen in Delhi after elections tomorrow!

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Post by truthbetold Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:38 pm

CD

Why is it that modi has to comment on church attacks?  Are they insinuating modi or his supporters behind it?  

Rajnath singh already spoke to delhi police and asked them to find the culprits. In the past, in AP,  these kind of church attacks were carried out by jehadi elements to create religious tension.  

I am not suggesting hindu zealots are not capable of church attacks but the modus operandi and timing  of these attacks does not indicate it is politically beneficial for BJP or RSS to do such thing. Individual zealots or some other personal or political rivalry could be behind this. 

on the other hand, one needs to pause to think when such insignificant issues are generating such  orchestrated high decibel religious minority persecution campaign.

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Post by Kris Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:55 pm

truthbetold wrote:What exactly is wrong with people taking up Hindu faith? If they are coerced, they can go back. 

India has seen lot of conversions through various inducements and spreading of falsehoods. Where are all these critics at those times. 

Indian social system is strong enough to refute any forceful conversions in any significant number. The high decibel campaign seems to be as motivated as the underlying conversion effort.
>>>This is not a question that is allowed. Besides others' claims of heaven, God , eternal life etc. have been scientifically verified and therefore cannot be falsehoods.

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Post by Kris Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:01 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
What will it take for Prime Minister Narendra Modi to speak out about the mounting violence against India’s religious minorities? Attacks at Christian places of worship have prompted no response from the man elected to represent and to protect all of India’s citizens. Nor has he addressed the mass conversion to Hinduism of Christians and Muslims who have been coerced or promised money. Mr. Modi’s continued silence before such troubling intolerance increasingly gives the impression that he either cannot or does not wish to control the fringe elements of the Hindu nationalist right.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/07/opinion/modis-dangerous-silence.html?_r=0
>>>Is the money for conversion unique to Hinduism? Or is is okay if others are doing it? Could we anticipate an editorial on that from the Times soon?

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Post by pravalika nanda Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:15 pm

Kris wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
What will it take for Prime Minister Narendra Modi to speak out about the mounting violence against India’s religious minorities? Attacks at Christian places of worship have prompted no response from the man elected to represent and to protect all of India’s citizens. Nor has he addressed the mass conversion to Hinduism of Christians and Muslims who have been coerced or promised money. Mr. Modi’s continued silence before such troubling intolerance increasingly gives the impression that he either cannot or does not wish to control the fringe elements of the Hindu nationalist right.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/07/opinion/modis-dangerous-silence.html?_r=0
>>>Is the money for conversion unique to Hinduism? Or is is okay if others are doing it? Could we anticipate an editorial on that from the Times soon?

oh, don't you know, the times is a little show run by secular elite phoneys for secular elite phoneys. all these "public scoldings" of modi must be such a pleasure to read.

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Post by confuzzled dude Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:56 pm

truthbetold wrote:CD

Why is it that modi has to comment on church attacks?  Are they insinuating modi or his supporters behind it?  

Rajnath singh already spoke to delhi police and asked them to find the culprits. In the past, in AP,  these kind of church attacks were carried out by jehadi elements to create religious tension.  

I am not suggesting hindu zealots are not capable of church attacks but the modus operandi and timing  of these attacks does not indicate it is politically beneficial for BJP or RSS to do such thing. Individual zealots or some other personal or political rivalry could be behind this. 

on the other hand, one needs to pause to think when such insignificant issues are generating such  orchestrated high decibel religious minority persecution campaign.
Because all those groups that are leading these attacks are a part of BJP, their efforts were the main reason for Modiji's success so the onus is on him to address this issue.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:39 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
What will it take for Prime Minister Narendra Modi to speak out about the mounting violence against India’s religious minorities? Attacks at Christian places of worship have prompted no response from the man elected to represent and to protect all of India’s citizens. Nor has he addressed the mass conversion to Hinduism of Christians and Muslims who have been coerced or promised money. Mr. Modi’s continued silence before such troubling intolerance increasingly gives the impression that he either cannot or does not wish to control the fringe elements of the Hindu nationalist right.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/07/opinion/modis-dangerous-silence.html?_r=0

So Obama ciriticised crusaders and other Christians...so who all answered ? Except for the Jesusites to criticize him back.

He criticized nigeria, ISIS, islamic bombers in every country. did any of them respond ?

He mentions 1 line saying Gandhi would be shocked at India's intolerance? right...and Modi is supposed to respond ? How about the Muslim leaders about the numerous bombings and killings over the last 20 years, which is also covered by Obama's statement ? Islamis kill, maim, bomb, and convert 1000s over the last 20 years and they dont need to apologize. Hindus put up resistance and convert a total of a good 300 people back to hinduism and all hell breaks lose. Ahhhh...how dare the innocent and sissy hindus protest and not keep quiet. They are indeed terrorists.

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Post by Merlot Daruwala Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:22 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
What will it take for Prime Minister Narendra Modi to speak out about the mounting violence against India’s religious minorities? Attacks at Christian places of worship have prompted no response from the man elected to represent and to protect all of India’s citizens. Nor has he addressed the mass conversion to Hinduism of Christians and Muslims who have been coerced or promised money. Mr. Modi’s continued silence before such troubling intolerance increasingly gives the impression that he either cannot or does not wish to control the fringe elements of the Hindu nationalist right.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/07/opinion/modis-dangerous-silence.html?_r=0

So Obama ciriticised crusaders and other Christians...so who all answered ? Except for the Jesusites to criticize him back.

He criticized nigeria, ISIS, islamic bombers in every country. did any of them respond ?

He mentions 1 line saying Gandhi would be shocked at India's intolerance?  right...and Modi is supposed to respond ? How about the Muslim leaders about the numerous bombings and killings over the last 20 years, which is also covered by Obama's statement ? Islamis kill, maim, bomb, and convert 1000s over the last 20 years and they dont need to apologize. Hindus put up resistance and convert a total of a good 300 people back to hinduism and all hell breaks lose. Ahhhh...how dare the innocent and sissy hindus protest and not keep quiet. They are indeed terrorists.
Very true Upps Aunty. We need to eat more goat and become as strong and intolerant as those Islamis. And like those brave, strong folks, ignore Obama's words. After all, he's just a stooge of the church.
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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:40 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
What will it take for Prime Minister Narendra Modi to speak out about the mounting violence against India’s religious minorities? Attacks at Christian places of worship have prompted no response from the man elected to represent and to protect all of India’s citizens. Nor has he addressed the mass conversion to Hinduism of Christians and Muslims who have been coerced or promised money. Mr. Modi’s continued silence before such troubling intolerance increasingly gives the impression that he either cannot or does not wish to control the fringe elements of the Hindu nationalist right.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/07/opinion/modis-dangerous-silence.html?_r=0

So Obama ciriticised crusaders and other Christians...so who all answered ? Except for the Jesusites to criticize him back.

He criticized nigeria, ISIS, islamic bombers in every country. did any of them respond ?

He mentions 1 line saying Gandhi would be shocked at India's intolerance?  right...and Modi is supposed to respond ? How about the Muslim leaders about the numerous bombings and killings over the last 20 years, which is also covered by Obama's statement ? Islamis kill, maim, bomb, and convert 1000s over the last 20 years and they dont need to apologize. Hindus put up resistance and convert a total of a good 300 people back to hinduism and all hell breaks lose. Ahhhh...how dare the innocent and sissy hindus protest and not keep quiet. They are indeed terrorists.

Everyone is missing the main point. Monomaniacs and Gownwallahs genuinely believe that kafirs will go to hell because they worship Satan, not God. They genuinely believe that converting kafirs leads to saving them from burning in eternal hell.

Therefore, when the average Gown or Daadi sees kafirs trying to convert a fellow Daadi or Gown, he is horrified. So, he comes out and complains. He doesn't think he is hypocritical. Obama is no exception.

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