Gaza could collapse, maybe soon

In almost every way, the Gaza Strip is much worse off now than before last summer’s war between Israel and Hamas. Scenes of misery are one of the few things in abundance in the battered coastal enclave.

Reconstruction of the tens of thousands homes damaged and destroyed in the hostilities has barely begun, almost six months after the cease-fire. At current rates, it will take decades to rebuild what was destroyed.

The economy is in deep recession; pledges of billions in aid have not been honored; and the Islamist movement Hamas, which controls the enclave, refuses to loosen its grip and is preparing again for war.

Diplomats, aid workers and residents warn of a looming humanitarian crisis and escalation of violence.

“After every war, we say it cannot get worse, but I will say this time is the worst ever,” said Omar Shaban, a respected Gaza economist. “There is no sign of life. Trade. Import. Export. Reconstruction. Aid? Dead. I’m not exaggerating when I tell my friends abroad: Gaza could collapse, maybe soon.”

At night, Gaza twinkles with thousands of campfires. Electricity is often available only six hours a day.

Some 10,000 Gaza residents are still sleeping on the floors of United Nations-run schools. Many more are living in caravans or tents, or huddling in their bombed-out apartments. All told, 100,000 people remain displaced.

“He went blue,” said Moeen Khassi, the grandfather of a 5-month-old who died in his sleep in freezing temperatures in a gutted home near the former front lines. The family blamed the cold.

The 50-day war between Israel and Hamas, a group Israel and the United States consider a terrorist organization, left more than 2,100 Palestinians dead, almost 70 percent of them civilians, according to the United Nations. Israel says half of the Palestinian dead were militants. Seventy-two Israelis were killed, most of them soldiers.

Cash assistance from the United Nations to displaced refugee families has stopped. The program ran out of money last month.

Palestinians in Gaza say they are trapped now more than ever in what they call an open-air prison. Israel restricts exits, allowing medical patients, business traders and some special humanitarian cases to cross.

For Gazans, the main portal to the greater world is the Rafah crossing into Egypt, which has been mostly closed since the summer war.

Mohammed Abu Anza, 19, was trying last month to get to the Cairo airport. He was awarded a scholarship to study engineering at a university in Algeria. He tried and failed to get out in October.

At the end of January, the crossing was open for just three days. Desperate travelers pressed onto the buses to make it to the Egyptian side.

On the third day, Anza won a seat on the tenth bus in line to leave. The Egyptians only allowed seven buses that day. Anza said he would try again, but he turned away, because it looked like he wanted to cry.

...the Islamist movement Hamas, which controls the enclave, refuses to loosen its grip and is preparing again for war.

Hellsangel wrote:There's your answer right in there:

...the Islamist movement Hamas, which controls the enclave, refuses to loosen its grip and is preparing again for war.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:There's your answer right in there:

...the Islamist movement Hamas, which controls the enclave, refuses to loosen its grip and is preparing again for war.

Looks like they're anticipating another attack from Israel, especially given how GOP-led congress is joined at the hip with Bibi.

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:There's your answer right in there:

...the Islamist movement Hamas, which controls the enclave, refuses to loosen its grip and is preparing again for war.

Looks like they're anticipating another attack from Israel, especially given how GOP-led congress is joined at the hip with Bibi.

Ha ha ha! Anticipating an attack? You mean they're anticipating retaliation for their next attack?

In fact, Israel's election has become a bipartisan, American affair. Campaign strategists for Senate Republicans work as consultants, and money is pouring in from wealthy Democratic and GOP contributors.

Though U.S. consultants have advised Israeli politicians for nearly 20 years, "the level of partisan Israeli accusations of foreign meddling has reached an unprecedented level," said Steve Rabinowitz, a Democratic strategist in Washington not involved in the Israeli campaign. "This is reflective of the new level of partisanship that has overtaken Jerusalem the same way it has overtaken Washington."

Likud receives non-financial backing from Yisrael Hayom, a pro-Netanyahu newspaper funded by American billionaire Sheldon Adelson, a leading Republican donor. More Israelis read Yisrael Hayom than any other newspaper.

"We don't know how much money Adelson invests in Yisrael Hayom, but we do know it's losing a lot of money," said Menachem Hofnung, a Hebrew University political scientist. "The Likud doesn't even try to pretend the paper is unbiased in its favor."

Running a daily newspaper of that size costs millions of dollars a year.

Hellsangel wrote:Yes. The poor terrorists. Being done in by democratic elections. Keep spinning your Jihadi wheels, Comrade.

Hellsangel wrote:How very  clever sly of you to bring in ISIS when we are talking of Hamas, Comrade!

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:How very  clever sly of you to bring in ISIS when we are talking of Hamas, Comrade!

comrade and his cell I mean mosque I mean benevolence charity I mean internet support group does not accept that hamas is a terror org

confuzzled dude wrote:

In almost every way, the Gaza Strip is much worse off now than before last summer’s war between Israel and Hamas. Scenes of misery are one of the few things in abundance in the battered coastal enclave.

Reconstruction of the tens of thousands homes damaged and destroyed in the hostilities has barely begun, almost six months after the cease-fire. At current rates, it will take decades to rebuild what was destroyed.

The economy is in deep recession; pledges of billions in aid have not been honored; and the Islamist movement Hamas, which controls the enclave, refuses to loosen its grip and is preparing again for war.

Diplomats, aid workers and residents warn of a looming humanitarian crisis and escalation of violence.

“After every war, we say it cannot get worse, but I will say this time is the worst ever,” said Omar Shaban, a respected Gaza economist. “There is no sign of life. Trade. Import. Export. Reconstruction. Aid? Dead. I’m not exaggerating when I tell my friends abroad: Gaza could collapse, maybe soon.”

At night, Gaza twinkles with thousands of campfires. Electricity is often available only six hours a day.

Some 10,000 Gaza residents are still sleeping on the floors of United Nations-run schools. Many more are living in caravans or tents, or huddling in their bombed-out apartments. All told, 100,000 people remain displaced.

“He went blue,” said Moeen Khassi, the grandfather of a 5-month-old who died in his sleep in freezing temperatures in a gutted home near the former front lines. The family blamed the cold.

The 50-day war between Israel and Hamas, a group Israel and the United States consider a terrorist organization, left more than 2,100 Palestinians dead, almost 70 percent of them civilians, according to the United Nations. Israel says half of the Palestinian dead were militants. Seventy-two Israelis were killed, most of them soldiers.

Cash assistance from the United Nations to displaced refugee families has stopped. The program ran out of money last month.

Palestinians in Gaza say they are trapped now more than ever in what they call an open-air prison. Israel restricts exits, allowing medical patients, business traders and some special humanitarian cases to cross.

For Gazans, the main portal to the greater world is the Rafah crossing into Egypt, which has been mostly closed since the summer war.

Mohammed Abu Anza, 19, was trying last month to get to the Cairo airport. He was awarded a scholarship to study engineering at a university in Algeria. He tried and failed to get out in October.

At the end of January, the crossing was open for just three days. Desperate travelers pressed onto the buses to make it to the Egyptian side.

On the third day, Anza won a seat on the tenth bus in line to leave. The Egyptians only allowed seven buses that day. Anza said he would try again, but he turned away, because it looked like he wanted to cry.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/world/2015/02/13/gaza-misery/

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Here is a solution for Gaza:

They should all embrace Buddhism and learn to live in peace with Jews. Dalai Lama will be more than happy to induct them into Buddhism.

Then, they will all stop farting "God is great" because Buddhism has no "God that orders others around" and the pieceful will turn peaceful.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Here is a solution for Gaza:

They should all embrace Buddhism and learn to live in peace with Jews. Dalai Lama will be more than happy to induct them into Buddhism.

Then, they will all stop farting "God is great" because Buddhism has no "God that orders others around" and the pieceful will turn peaceful.

Would you suggest the same for the suffering Kashmiri pandits?

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Here is a solution for Gaza:

They should all embrace Buddhism and learn to live in peace with Jews. Dalai Lama will be more than happy to induct them into Buddhism.

Then, they will all stop farting "God is great" because Buddhism has no "God that orders others around" and the pieceful will turn peaceful.

Would you suggest the same for the suffering Kashmiri pandits?

Are they facing religious persecution from other Hindus in the camps?

Now that you asked, here is a solution:  If the pieceful in Kashmir become Buddhists, the problem will be solved!  May be, Sikular scholars like you should stand at the LoC and convert every monomaniac that comes with a piece-virus infected mind into Buddhism. Dalai Lama will be happy to help you.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Here is a solution for Gaza:

They should all embrace Buddhism and learn to live in peace with Jews. Dalai Lama will be more than happy to induct them into Buddhism.

Then, they will all stop farting "God is great" because Buddhism has no "God that orders others around" and the pieceful will turn peaceful.

Would you suggest the same for the suffering Kashmiri pandits?

Are they facing religious persecution from other Hindus in the camps?

Now that you asked, here is a solution:  If the pieceful in Kashmir become Buddhists, the problem will be solved!  May be, Sikular scholars like you should stand at the LoC and convert every monomaniac that comes with a piece-virus infected mind into Buddhism. Dalai Lama will be happy to help you.

Hmmm.. the pieceful in Gaza's case is Israel, shouldn't you be asking them to take up Buddhism?

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Here is a solution for Gaza:

They should all embrace Buddhism and learn to live in peace with Jews. Dalai Lama will be more than happy to induct them into Buddhism.

Then, they will all stop farting "God is great" because Buddhism has no "God that orders others around" and the pieceful will turn peaceful.

Would you suggest the same for the suffering Kashmiri pandits?

Are they facing religious persecution from other Hindus in the camps?

Now that you asked, here is a solution:  If the pieceful in Kashmir become Buddhists, the problem will be solved!  May be, Sikular scholars like you should stand at the LoC and convert every monomaniac that comes with a piece-virus infected mind into Buddhism. Dalai Lama will be happy to help you.

Hmmm.. the pieceful in Gaza's case is Israel, shouldn't you be asking them to take up Buddhism?

The real ruler of Israel is one Sheldon Adelson, 81, American Jew, Casino king, who was rated as the world’s tenth richest person, worth 37.2 billion dollars at the latest count. But who is counting?

Besides his casinos in Las Vegas, Pennsylvania, Macao and Singapore, he owns the US Republican party and, lately, both Houses of the US Congress.

He also owns Binyamin Netanyahu.

Adelson’s connection with Israel is personal. On a blind date, he fell in love with an Israeli woman.

Both Adelsons are fanatical supporters of Israel. Not just any Israel, but a rightist, supremacist, arrogant, violent, expansionist, annexationist, non-compromising, colonialist Israel.

In “Bibi” Netanyahu they found their man. Through Netanyahu they hope to rule Israel as their private fief.

To assure this, they did an extraordinary thing: they founded an Israeli newspaper, solely devoted to the furthering of the interests of Binyamin Netanyahu. Not of the Likud, not of a specific policy, but of Netanyahu personally.

If so, Adelson is now our chief lawmaker. Perhaps he is also our chief government-maker.

Money plays an ever-increasing role in politics. Election propaganda is made on television, which is very expensive. Both in Israel and the US, legal and illegal funds pour into the campaign, directly and indirectly. Corruption is abetted or tolerated by the courts. The very rich (known euphemistically in America as the “wealthy”) exercise undue influence.

In the last US presidential elections, Adelson poured rivers of dollars into the contest. He supported Newt Gingrich, and then Mitt Romney, with huge sums of money. In vain. Perhaps Americans don’t like to be ruled by captains of casinos.

For the next US presidential elections, Adelson has started early. He has summoned to his Las Vegas casino HQ all leading Republican candidates, to grill them on their allegiance to him – and to Netanyahu. Nobody dared to refuse the summons. Would a Roman senator refuse the summons of Caesar?

It seems to be strange for a country to allow a foreigner, who never lived in the country, to have such enormous power over its future, indeed, over its very existence.

That’s where Zionism comes in. According to the Zionist creed, Israel is the state of the Jews, all the Jews. Every Jew in the world belongs to Israel, even if temporarily residing somewhere else. A few days ago, Netanyahu publicly claimed to represent not just the State of Israel but also the entire “Jewish People”. No need to ask them.

Accordingly, Adelson is not really a foreigner. He is one of us. True, he cannot vote in Israel, though his wife probably can. But many people, including himself, believe that he, being a Jew, has a perfect right to interfere in our affairs and dominate our lives.

Hellsangel wrote:Oh Comrade! Now it is "Death to America and the Zionist pigs" time, is it?

For example, the appointment of our ambassador in the US. Ron Dermer is an American, born in Miami, who was active in Republican politics. To appoint an American functionary of the Republican Party as ambassador of Israel to a Democratic administration may seem strange. Not so strange if Netanyahu acted under the orders of Sheldon Adelson.

It was Adelson who prepared the witches’ brew that is now endangering Israel’s lifeline to Washington. His stooge, Dermer, induced the Republicans in Congress – all of them dependent on Adelson’s largesse or hoping to be so – to invite Netanyahu to give an anti-Obama speech before both Houses.

While this intrigue was in preparation, Dermer met with John Kerry but did not tell him of Netanyahu’s coming. Neither did Netanyahu inform President Obama, who, in a fury, announced that he would not meet with the Prime Minister.

From the point of view of Israel’s vital interests, it is sheer madness to provoke the President of the United States of America, who controls American’s flow of arms to Israel and the American veto power in the UN. But from the point of view of Adelson, who wants to elect a Republican president in 2016, it makes sense

Hellsangel wrote:*Yawn* Comrade! Go preach to your Friday kebab lunch buddies.

Hellsangel wrote:Seems like you're crying about Israel now, Comrade. Knock yourself out.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:Seems like you're crying about Israel now, Comrade. Knock yourself out.

Not surprised at all; as this comes from someone who has hard time seeing what is before his eyes

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:Seems like you're crying about Israel now, Comrade. Knock yourself out.

Not surprised at all; as this comes from someone who has hard time seeing what is before his eyes

And what is that, Comrade? La ilahi illallah Muhammad ul rasool ullah?

A diary for our time would, perhaps, be entitled The diary of Asthma al-Mugghayr, a 16-year old Palestinian, an account of what happened to his fellow and sister kids and family and community members in and around Rafah. Scribbling among the ruins, would Asthma write of watching his brother, Ahmad, 13 years-old, shot with a single bullet through his head while taking clothes off the drying line and feeding pigeons? Apparently the shot came from a house nearby, which been taken over by Israeli soldiers shortly before. Would he write by candle late at night, amidst the rubble, about the thirteen year old girl who was shot while she was walking to school? What would this teenage boy think about the Israeli commander who emptied his gun into the school girl?

What would Asthma think about the Occupation–a system of military check-points splitting towns and villages into ghettoes, curfews, closures, raids, mass demolition and destruction of houses and land expropriations? How would he characterize daily life, and the grotesque wall, that, when completed will total 400 miles–four times longer than the Berlin wall. Would Asthma write youthful poetry about being caged or displaced? Would this young man be driven mad? Would he confess to a concealed desire to be a suicide bomber?

Maybe Asthma would keep a record of just how many children have been killed. Two-thirds of hundreds of children killed at checkpoints, in the street, on the way to school, in their homes, died from small arms fire, directed in over half of the cases to the head, neck and chest–the sniper’s wound. Would these young men wonder why the Palestinians are always terrorists? Would he have taken his own life?

Why is it almost unspeakable to speak of the suffering of the non-Jew in the west?

Hellsangel wrote:Comrade, when are you going to start crying for the people killed by the American  drone attacks in the frontier regions of Pakistan?

Hellsangel wrote:You're trying too hard and twisting yourself into a pretzel, Comrade. The 'government' of Gaza is made up of terrorists and they are not about to give any go ahead to anti-terrorism operations. HTH.

Hellsangel wrote:Comrade, you have no clue how Hamas took over Gaza from Fatah , do you? Or, are you just playing coy?

Hellsangel wrote:Comrade, you have no clue how Hamas took over Gaza from Fatah , do you? Or, are you just playing coy?

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:Comrade, you have no clue how Hamas took over Gaza from Fatah , do you? Or, are you just playing coy?

Did Bush push for elections or not? to further his spread democracy agenda.

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:Comrade, you have no clue how Hamas took over Gaza from Fatah , do you? Or, are you just playing coy?

Did Bush push for elections or not? to further his spread democracy agenda.

Comrade, you really have no clue. You just made that obvious by dragging in an unrelated topic. Please go read your WaPo blogs some more about how Hamas took over Gaza.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:Comrade, you have no clue how Hamas took over Gaza from Fatah , do you? Or, are you just playing coy?

Did Bush push for elections or not? to further his spread democracy agenda.

Comrade, you really have no clue. You just made that obvious by dragging in an unrelated topic. Please go read your WaPo blogs some more about how Hamas took over Gaza.

That proves that you guys have no answer; and how is that unrelated topic, you're the one that drew parallels with Pakistan, to begin with.

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:Comrade, you have no clue how Hamas took over Gaza from Fatah , do you? Or, are you just playing coy?

Did Bush push for elections or not? to further his spread democracy agenda.

Comrade, you really have no clue. You just made that obvious by dragging in an unrelated topic. Please go read your WaPo blogs some more about how Hamas took over Gaza.

That proves that you guys have no answer; and how is that unrelated topic, you're the one that drew parallels with Pakistan, to begin with.

How  exactly did the 'elections that President Bush encouraged in Gaza' take place, Comrade?

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:
Did Bush push for elections or not? to further his spread democracy agenda.

Comrade, you really have no clue. You just made that obvious by dragging in an unrelated topic. Please go read your WaPo blogs some more about how Hamas took over Gaza.

That proves that you guys have no answer; and how is that unrelated topic, you're the one that drew parallels with Pakistan, to begin with.

How  exactly did the 'elections that President Bush encouraged in Gaza' take place, Comrade?

May be you should search faux blogs, take your buddy's help, if you have hard time finding.

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:
Comrade, you really have no clue. You just made that obvious by dragging in an unrelated topic. Please go read your WaPo blogs some more about how Hamas took over Gaza.

That proves that you guys have no answer; and how is that unrelated topic, you're the one that drew parallels with Pakistan, to begin with.

How  exactly did the 'elections that President Bush encouraged in Gaza' take place, Comrade?

May be you should search faux blogs, take your buddy's help, if you have hard time finding.

Ha ha ha! You do like to make up stuff don't you, Comrade? You have no clue about Gaza, Hama's or the Fatah but just like to rant about Israel like a mad man here.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:
That proves that you guys have no answer; and how is that unrelated topic, you're the one that drew parallels with Pakistan, to begin with.

How  exactly did the 'elections that President Bush encouraged in Gaza' take place, Comrade?

May be you should search faux blogs, take your buddy's help, if you have hard time finding.

Ha ha ha! You do like to make up stuff don't you, Comrade? You have no clue about Gaza, Hama's or the Fatah but just like to rant about Israel like a mad man here.

You just proved your own point that you have no clue. You started the whole deal by questioning the election which Dubya was so eager about.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:
That proves that you guys have no answer; and how is that unrelated topic, you're the one that drew parallels with Pakistan, to begin with.

How  exactly did the 'elections that President Bush encouraged in Gaza' take place, Comrade?

May be you should search faux blogs, take your buddy's help, if you have hard time finding.

Ha ha ha! You do like to make up stuff don't you, Comrade? You have no clue about Gaza, Hama's or the Fatah but just like to rant about Israel like a mad man here.

You just proved your own point that you have no clue. You started the whole deal by questioning the election which Dubya was so eager about.

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:
How  exactly did the 'elections that President Bush encouraged in Gaza' take place, Comrade?

May be you should search faux blogs, take your buddy's help, if you have hard time finding.

Ha ha ha! You do like to make up stuff don't you, Comrade? You have no clue about Gaza, Hama's or the Fatah but just like to rant about Israel like a mad man here.

You just proved your own point that you have no clue. You started the whole deal by questioning the election which Dubya was so eager about.

Aww! Pouting now Comrade? Here, let me help you :

Go to www.google.com

Type in Gaza elections. 

Next read the second link that comes up on Wikipedia about how Hamas ousted Fatah militarily from Gaza.

HTH

Hellsangel wrote:And what does that article say about Hamas, Comrade?

Reacting uneasily to the Hamas triumph, Mr. Bush said the results spoke to the failures of President Mahmoud Abbas and the "old guard" of his Fatah faction to root out corruption and mismanagement, not to any flaws in the administration's policy of advocating democracy.

"There was a peaceful process as people went to the polls, and that's positive," Mr. Bush said. "But what's also positive is that it's a wake-up call to the leadership. Obviously people were not happy with the status quo. The people are demanding honest government. The people want services."

Mr. Bush joined a chorus of world leaders — including the so-called quartet of principal parties in the moribund peace process — in calling on Hamas to renounce terrorism, disarm its militias and recognize the legitimacy of Israel now that it has won the elections. But his tone was less confrontational than invitational — in effect, inviting Hamas to embrace reconciliation.

in calling on Hamas to renounce terrorism, disarm its militias and recognize the legitimacy of Israel now that it has won the elections. But his tone was less confrontational than invitational — in effect, inviting Hamas to embrace reconciliation.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:
How  exactly did the 'elections that President Bush encouraged in Gaza' take place, Comrade?

May be you should search faux blogs, take your buddy's help, if you have hard time finding.

Ha ha ha! You do like to make up stuff don't you, Comrade? You have no clue about Gaza, Hama's or the Fatah but just like to rant about Israel like a mad man here.

You just proved your own point that you have no clue. You started the whole deal by questioning the election which Dubya was so eager about.

As someone who posts thread after thread at the news of even a small beating of any muslim with a stick, should we take your deadly silence on the muslim killing of 21 Coptic Christians as your approval ?

As someone who screams at NRA, should we take that your deadly silence is  approval of the Muslim shooting in Copenhagen?

Hellsangel wrote:

in calling on Hamas to renounce terrorism, disarm its militias and recognize the legitimacy of Israel now that it has won the elections. But his tone was less confrontational than invitational — in effect, inviting Hamas to embrace reconciliation.

Amazing! Now we're talking Comrade. From the time you brought in ISIS. 


How did Hamas's actions so far do on that front, Comrade?

confuzzled dude wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

As someone who posts thread after thread at the news of even a small beating of any muslim with a stick, should we take your deadly silence on the muslim killing of 21 Coptic Christians as your approval ?

As someone who screams at NRA, should we take that your deadly silence is  approval of the Muslim shooting in Copenhagen?

I don't support any kind of violence but again, I hate to rain on your parade thus the silence.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

in calling on Hamas to renounce terrorism, disarm its militias and recognize the legitimacy of Israel now that it has won the elections. But his tone was less confrontational than invitational — in effect, inviting Hamas to embrace reconciliation.

Amazing! Now we're talking Comrade. From the time you brought in ISIS. 


How did Hamas's actions so far do on that front, Comrade?

The point is your equating of Gaza residents to Hamas or Syrian/Iraqi population to ISIS is not correct.