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Post by The Absolute Zero Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:23 am

This Vengsarkar and Sri-DoubleK-Ant!
Dont they even check the records or remember them? What a shame!

======== From the Hindu =====================

Dilip Vengsarkar: He was an “innovative” captain who had won many matches for the country. (Oh really? How many?)

He was a great player, fantastic captain and an outstanding fielder. We are going to miss him.

Krishnamachari Srikkanth: It is a great loss for Indian cricket. He played an aggressive brand of cricket. He was very friendly and a fun-loving person, he had a very subtle and good sense of humour.

His greatest quality was the way he hit those sixes. He was called Tiger because of his extraordinary fielding at covers. He lost one eye but still went on to score so many runs.

One thing I like to inculcate from him is his determination and aggressiveness. (Idiot, at this age what do you have to inculcate?)

http://www.thehindu.com/sport/cricket/article2477138.ece

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Post by Guest Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:26 am

TAZ reading in between of between the lines & coming up with nothing. cyclops

What trash - they're praising him! It's never too late to learn in life, right?



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Post by The Absolute Zero Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:33 am

Richard Hed wrote:TAZ reading in between of between the lines & coming up with nothing. cyclops
What trash - they're praising him! It's never too late to learn in life, right?
Yes sir. so when someone dies, it is OK to lie and say whatever it does not befit the dead man. Right? He was shrewd Captain. Yes. He was charismatic, yes, he was this and that, yes. He showed how to lead yes. He was the first to win overseas, yes. He has three kids, of course yes. He lost eye and batted good, yessssss. He was arrested for blackbuck shooting .. yesss (none said it, it is fine to keep blacky things out), he was again this and that.. FINE.

He hit so many sixes? Oh did he? NO. It was Salim Durrani
He won so many matches? NO.

To quote from the few good men, "Harold, you do not have to wear a patch on your shoulder to have honor!"

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Post by Kris Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:47 am

So a eulogy should recount a dead man's flaws?

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:06 am

The Absolute Zero wrote:

Krishnamachari Srikkanth:

His greatest quality was the way he hit those sixes. He was called Tiger because of his extraordinary fielding at covers. He lost one eye but still went on to score so many runs.


Yesterday, I read a column by David McMahon - who was his Associate editor in the 90s at MAK's magazine - tell him why was called the Tiger.

Pataudi himself told him that as a child he used to rock on all the four (like most kids) and his little elder sister called him "The Tiger" on watching him. His family started calling him The Tiger after that.

It has nothing to do with his fielding or killing a Tiger, etc...

Hope Srikant can read and write and could have read the same article that I read yesterday. Shows how much our selectors are keeping abreast of the cricket happenings.

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Post by The Absolute Zero Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:26 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote: Yesterday, I read a column by David McMahon - who was his Associate editor in the 90s at MAK's magazine - tell him why was called the Tiger.

Pataudi himself told him that as a child he used to rock on all the four (like most kids) and his little elder sister called him "The Tiger" on watching him. His family started calling him The Tiger after that.

It has nothing to do with his fielding or killing a Tiger, etc...

This is the same story I heard too. Many thought otherwise but Pataudi himself clarified it in his book. BCCI selectors are, (Amarnath voice) a bunch of jokers - even after nearly three decades of Amarnath's retirement.

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Post by nevada Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:21 pm

RIP. From what I read Pataudi was a transformational captain with his changing Indian cricket's defensive, avoid loss mindset to an aggressive, victory seeking one.

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Post by Guest Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:19 pm

The Absolute Zero wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:TAZ reading in between of between the lines & coming up with nothing. cyclops
What trash - they're praising him! It's never too late to learn in life, right?
Yes sir. so when someone dies, it is OK to lie and say whatever it does not befit the dead man. Right? He was shrewd Captain. Yes. He was charismatic, yes, he was this and that, yes. He showed how to lead yes. He was the first to win overseas, yes. He has three kids, of course yes. He lost eye and batted good, yessssss. He was arrested for blackbuck shooting .. yesss (none said it, it is fine to keep blacky things out), he was again this and that.. FINE.

He hit so many sixes? Oh did he? NO. It was Salim Durrani
He won so many matches? NO.

To quote from the few good men, "Harold, you do not have to wear a patch on your shoulder to have honor!"

What would Srikkanth and Vengsarkar who were intelligent cricketers gain by lying? It's just one soundbyte! He may have been called Tiger for different reasons but, he played an agressive brand of cricket in an age when Indian cricketers may have been happy to be considered equal, work for a draw and shake hands and walk out of the field...

How did they "trash" his memory if they did learn the nuances of their games from greats like the likes of Pataudi? Durrani may have hit sixers better than anyone before him but, was Durrani just about hitting sixers? Is there nothing else that anyone learn from Durrani? If it taught a young cricketer to back himself up and gave him confidence - would that be a "trashy" lie?

OK - let's put it in perspective. Numbers usually are very powerful tool to view anything. But, they can also obfuscate the truth sometimes. One test match win is one win. Is it? What if it's the first ever on a foreign soil? What if it was the first time ever an Indian team found validation of their self-belief? What does it do to the psyche of the nation of cricket fanatics? Is one win just one win then? Was it just one six that won us the World Cup a few months ago? Smile

I'll take your quote and raise you one Smile

nanos gigantium humeris insidentes - loosely translated as "we stand on the shoulders of giants"...


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