Onbehalf of SuCh Sikular Scholars, I demand.....

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:...... a new system to rank universities. Universities in India should be checked for their Sikular character, and given credit for admitting SC/ST students getting 6% & OBC students getting 30%, in exams. "Upper caste" students who get above 90% should be sent to Adilabad district in Telangana, Srikakulam district in AP, Southern Chhattisgarh, Bimaru Bihar and the tribal belt in Odisha to do hard labor under the Rajiv Gandui Yuva Yojana program.

Garibi Hatao.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/150720/nation-education/article/no-indian-educational-institution-global-list-top-300-universities

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:...... a new system to rank universities. Universities in India should be checked for their Sikular character, and given credit for admitting SC/ST students getting 6% & OBC students getting 30%, in exams. "Upper caste" students who get above 90% should be sent to Adilabad district in Telangana, Srikakulam district in AP, Southern Chhattisgarh, Bimaru Bihar and the tribal belt in Odisha to do hard labor under the Rajiv Gandui Yuva Yojana program.

Garibi Hatao.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/150720/nation-education/article/no-indian-educational-institution-global-list-top-300-universities

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:the ranking of the IITs is terrible,  but where are the universities that are not specialized tech schools --  madras university, annamalai, andhra, and jadavpur?

Seva Lamberdar wrote:I just got the following email (reproduced in italics) from an IIT-classmate of mine (1970 batch), shedding further light on the sad situation.

Your concern are genuine -- I had tried to talk to Additional Secretory HRD -- when Kapil Sibble was the HRD minister-- he flatly told me that "" when IIT Directors are willing to tow the Government line -- so that they can get extension of their Services beyond sixty years -- how can they retaliate -- to lowering of teaching standards?""HRD ministers -- starting with Joshiji -- Arjun Singh -- Kapil Sibbal-- impregnated -- conceived and baby of lower standard delivered and currently she has little to do-- than to keep the system going.

If you are able to lay your hand on a World Bank report published three years back -- Indian standards of Technical Education was at the bottom end-- IIT were rated some 500 ths in ranking--poor teaching of SMET-- that is S- science: physics and chemistry M- mathematics - E- engineering-- T- technology was being down graded -- so as to push political agenda.

The best way for the Government is to " Spread thin teaching resources to larger number of IITs- thus allowing more liberal - ENTRY into the " Institute of Higher Learning.

The several Boards of Secondary Education-- have been preaching reservation -- now they have managed to practice it to one of the best IITs.

Going forward -- the Pan-IIT should draw up a resolution and send it to Cabinet Secretory -- PM and HRD Minister -- with copies to all IIT Directors and Secretary of HRD 

Globally we have to compete with China also -- and they are far ahead -- look at their numbers in Bay Area and you will be convinced.[/size]

swapna wrote:
"science: physics and chemistry"'-- seva's iit classmate.

I find it interesting that biology, that most important and rapidly developing of all the sciences of the 21st century, does not find a place in seva's classmate's definition of science!

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:
"science: physics and chemistry"'-- seva's iit classmate.

I find it interesting that biology, that most important and rapidly developing of all the sciences of the 21st century, does not find a place in seva's classmate's definition of science!

>>> Did you have any classes / courses in biology (botany and / or zoology) when you were studying engineering at IIT Madras?

swapna wrote:there is no such word as onbehalf.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

swapna wrote:there is no such word as onbehalf.

We have a saying in Telugu that roughly translates into: "just like a barber, who doesn't have any work, shaving the head of a cat"......

swapna wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:
"science: physics and chemistry"'-- seva's iit classmate.

I find it interesting that biology, that most important and rapidly developing of all the sciences of the 21st century, does not find a place in seva's classmate's definition of science!

>>> Did you have any classes / courses in biology (botany and / or zoology) when you were studying engineering at IIT Madras?

the question you ask is irrelevant to the definition of sciemce as merely physics and chemistry.

swapna wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

swapna wrote:there is no such word as onbehalf.

We have a saying in Telugu that roughly translates into: "just like a barber, who doesn't have any work, shaving the head of a cat"......

I admit that it's better to carp, whine, wail, and gnash your teeth here about the gandhi family than to get someone else worked up sufficiently to kill abdul the autorickshaw driver; however, what you do is the equivalent of shaving thousands of cats.

furthermore, no telugu proverb will negate my earlier words: there is no such word as "onbehalf." you may now thank me for teaching you something.

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:
"science: physics and chemistry"'-- seva's iit classmate.

I find it interesting that biology, that most important and rapidly developing of all the sciences of the 21st century, does not find a place in seva's classmate's definition of science!

>>> Did you have any classes / courses in biology (botany and / or zoology) when you were studying engineering at IIT Madras?

the question you ask is irrelevant to the definition of sciemce as merely physics and chemistry.

The discussion or context (including the email) was not about the definition of science subjects but what subjects (e.g. chemistry and physics) are necessary during the engineering education (at IITs especially).

swapna wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:
"science: physics and chemistry"'-- seva's iit classmate.

I find it interesting that biology, that most important and rapidly developing of all the sciences of the 21st century, does not find a place in seva's classmate's definition of science!

>>> Did you have any classes / courses in biology (botany and / or zoology) when you were studying engineering at IIT Madras?

the question you ask is irrelevant to the definition of sciemce as merely physics and chemistry.

The discussion or context (including the email) was not about the definition of science subjects but what subjects (e.g. chemistry and physics) are necessary during the engineering education (at IITs especially).

"SMET-- that is S- science: physics and chemistry M- mathematics - E- engineering-- T- technology" -- an iit grad.


he first defines SMET to be made up of science, mathematics, engineering, and technology; then he further defines science to be made up of physics and chemistry. it's quite clear. and surprising.

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

>>> Did you have any classes / courses in biology (botany and / or zoology) when you were studying engineering at IIT Madras?

the question you ask is irrelevant to the definition of sciemce as merely physics and chemistry.

The discussion or context (including the email) was not about the definition of science subjects but what subjects (e.g. chemistry and physics) are necessary during the engineering education (at IITs especially).

"SMET-- that is S- science: physics and chemistry M- mathematics - E- engineering-- T- technology" -- an iit grad.


he first defines SMET to be made up of science, mathematics, engineering, and technology; then he further defines science to be made up of physics and chemistry. it's quite clear. and surprising.

Don't forget the context in the above -- science in engineering education, which includes little biology (botany and zoology),
" IIT were rated some 500 ths in ranking--poor teaching of SMET-- that is S- science: physics and chemistry M- mathematics - E- engineering-- T- technology was being down graded"

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:
the question you ask is irrelevant to the definition of sciemce as merely physics and chemistry.

The discussion or context (including the email) was not about the definition of science subjects but what subjects (e.g. chemistry and physics) are necessary during the engineering education (at IITs especially).

"SMET-- that is S- science: physics and chemistry M- mathematics - E- engineering-- T- technology" -- an iit grad.


he first defines SMET to be made up of science, mathematics, engineering, and technology; then he further defines science to be made up of physics and chemistry. it's quite clear. and surprising.

Don't forget the context in the above -- science in engineering education, which includes little biology (botany and zoology),
" IIT were rated some 500 ths in ranking--poor teaching of SMET-- that is S- science: physics and chemistry M- mathematics - E- engineering-- T- technology was being down graded"

no longer.  perusing this may be helpful: http://www.nibib.nih.gov/
IIT-B's BioEngineering homepage: http://www.bio.iitb.ac.in/