Gorakhpur youth shows his true colours

As the nation celebrated Independence Day on Saturday, two incidents that hurt the country's pride were reported from Uttar Pradesh. Subsequently, the police detained a youth for showing disrespect to the national flag.
In Gorakhpur, a youth not only unfurled the Pakistani flag in front of his house but also showed disregard to the Tricolour. Police detained Afroz Ansari after he spread the Tricolour on the ground and placed a chair on it to stand up and unfurl Pakistan's flag. Later, he also posted his picture on a social website. However, his father Shaukat Ali tendered an apology and said, "We are true nationalists. My son is immature and unable to differentiate right from wrong. I feel ashamed of his act and apologise to everybody for what he did."
In another case, a madrasa in Muradnagar area of Ghaziabad decided to sing Allama Iqbal's "Sare Jahan Se Achcha Hindustan Hamara" instead of Rabindranath Tagore's "Jana Gana Mana Adhinayak Jaya He."
While there was no issue till the Tricolour was hoisted and unfurled, manager of Noorpur Madrasa Darul Uloom Shadia Qari Khalil Ahmad suddenly stopped the students from singing "Jana Gana Mana." and asked them to sing "Sare Jahan Se Achchaâ" He reportedly told the students that the national anthem was completely against the ethics of the madrasa. Thereafter, he asked the students to sing Iqbal's poem. When asked, Ahmad told newspersons, "Sare Jahan Se Achcha is also a patriotic song and I don't see any problem is singing it in course of the Independence Day function," he argued.
While Iqbal was a celebrated Urdu poet, he is also remembered as one who had pushed for the idea of carving a separate country out of India way back in 1930.


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ashdoc wrote:As the nation celebrated Independence Day on Saturday, two incidents that hurt the country's pride were reported from Uttar Pradesh. Subsequently, the police detained a youth for showing disrespect to the national flag.
In Gorakhpur, a youth not only unfurled the Pakistani flag in front of his house but also showed disregard to the Tricolour. Police detained Afroz Ansari after he spread the Tricolour on the ground and placed a chair on it to stand up and unfurl Pakistan's flag. Later, he also posted his picture on a social website. However, his father Shaukat Ali tendered an apology and said, "We are true nationalists. My son is immature and unable to differentiate right from wrong. I feel ashamed of his act and apologise to everybody for what he did."
In another case, a madrasa in Muradnagar area of Ghaziabad decided to sing Allama Iqbal's "Sare Jahan Se Achcha Hindustan Hamara" instead of Rabindranath Tagore's "Jana Gana Mana Adhinayak Jaya He."
While there was no issue till the Tricolour was hoisted and unfurled, manager of Noorpur Madrasa Darul Uloom Shadia Qari Khalil Ahmad suddenly stopped the students from singing "Jana Gana Mana." and asked them to sing "Sare Jahan Se Achchaâ" He reportedly told the students that the national anthem was completely against the ethics of the madrasa. Thereafter, he asked the students to sing Iqbal's poem. When asked, Ahmad told newspersons, "Sare Jahan Se Achcha is also a patriotic song and I don't see any problem is singing it in course of the Independence Day function," he argued.
While Iqbal was a celebrated Urdu poet, he is also remembered as one who had pushed for the idea of carving a separate country out of India way back in 1930.


https://in.news.yahoo.com/gorakhpur-youth-detained-after-unfurling-pakistan-flag-on-i-day-035705468.html

ah, dr. ashwin, I'm so glad that you are around to straighten out the muslims of india. 

these muslims don't know that india is a human being, that it has feelings like pride and dignity, and that our national flag is not merely a multicoloured piece of cloth, but the very embodiment of the hopes and aspirations of 1.25 billion people. 

I am surprised that you, being the patriot that you are, have not prescribed harsh punishment for ahmed that includes plans for his unpatriotic testicles.

jai hind!

swapna wrote:

ashdoc wrote:As the nation celebrated Independence Day on Saturday, two incidents that hurt the country's pride were reported from Uttar Pradesh. Subsequently, the police detained a youth for showing disrespect to the national flag.
In Gorakhpur, a youth not only unfurled the Pakistani flag in front of his house but also showed disregard to the Tricolour. Police detained Afroz Ansari after he spread the Tricolour on the ground and placed a chair on it to stand up and unfurl Pakistan's flag. Later, he also posted his picture on a social website. However, his father Shaukat Ali tendered an apology and said, "We are true nationalists. My son is immature and unable to differentiate right from wrong. I feel ashamed of his act and apologise to everybody for what he did."
In another case, a madrasa in Muradnagar area of Ghaziabad decided to sing Allama Iqbal's "Sare Jahan Se Achcha Hindustan Hamara" instead of Rabindranath Tagore's "Jana Gana Mana Adhinayak Jaya He."
While there was no issue till the Tricolour was hoisted and unfurled, manager of Noorpur Madrasa Darul Uloom Shadia Qari Khalil Ahmad suddenly stopped the students from singing "Jana Gana Mana." and asked them to sing "Sare Jahan Se Achchaâ" He reportedly told the students that the national anthem was completely against the ethics of the madrasa. Thereafter, he asked the students to sing Iqbal's poem. When asked, Ahmad told newspersons, "Sare Jahan Se Achcha is also a patriotic song and I don't see any problem is singing it in course of the Independence Day function," he argued.
While Iqbal was a celebrated Urdu poet, he is also remembered as one who had pushed for the idea of carving a separate country out of India way back in 1930.


https://in.news.yahoo.com/gorakhpur-youth-detained-after-unfurling-pakistan-flag-on-i-day-035705468.html

ah, dr. ashwin, I'm so glad that you are around to straighten out the muslims of india. 

these muslims don't know that india is a human being, that it has feelings like pride and dignity, and that our national flag is not merely a multicoloured piece of cloth, but the very embodiment of the hopes and aspirations of 1.25 billion people. 

I am surprised that you, being the patriot that you are, have not prescribed harsh punishment for ahmed that includes plans for his unpatriotic testicles.

jai hind!

As an American citizen yourself living in the U.S., it's time for you therefore (based on your statement in the above) to teach others by example the "proper" way to treat your own flag: spread your own (American) flag under the chair and hoist the Iranian flag over your house tomorrow; and on the next American Independence  Day (July 4), repeat the same while using the North Korean flag (in the place of Iranian flag). Now, get going.

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:

ashdoc wrote:As the nation celebrated Independence Day on Saturday, two incidents that hurt the country's pride were reported from Uttar Pradesh. Subsequently, the police detained a youth for showing disrespect to the national flag.
In Gorakhpur, a youth not only unfurled the Pakistani flag in front of his house but also showed disregard to the Tricolour. Police detained Afroz Ansari after he spread the Tricolour on the ground and placed a chair on it to stand up and unfurl Pakistan's flag. Later, he also posted his picture on a social website. However, his father Shaukat Ali tendered an apology and said, "We are true nationalists. My son is immature and unable to differentiate right from wrong. I feel ashamed of his act and apologise to everybody for what he did."
In another case, a madrasa in Muradnagar area of Ghaziabad decided to sing Allama Iqbal's "Sare Jahan Se Achcha Hindustan Hamara" instead of Rabindranath Tagore's "Jana Gana Mana Adhinayak Jaya He."
While there was no issue till the Tricolour was hoisted and unfurled, manager of Noorpur Madrasa Darul Uloom Shadia Qari Khalil Ahmad suddenly stopped the students from singing "Jana Gana Mana." and asked them to sing "Sare Jahan Se Achchaâ" He reportedly told the students that the national anthem was completely against the ethics of the madrasa. Thereafter, he asked the students to sing Iqbal's poem. When asked, Ahmad told newspersons, "Sare Jahan Se Achcha is also a patriotic song and I don't see any problem is singing it in course of the Independence Day function," he argued.
While Iqbal was a celebrated Urdu poet, he is also remembered as one who had pushed for the idea of carving a separate country out of India way back in 1930.


https://in.news.yahoo.com/gorakhpur-youth-detained-after-unfurling-pakistan-flag-on-i-day-035705468.html

ah, dr. ashwin, I'm so glad that you are around to straighten out the muslims of india. 

these muslims don't know that india is a human being, that it has feelings like pride and dignity, and that our national flag is not merely a multicoloured piece of cloth, but the very embodiment of the hopes and aspirations of 1.25 billion people. 

I am surprised that you, being the patriot that you are, have not prescribed harsh punishment for ahmed that includes plans for his unpatriotic testicles.

jai hind!

As an American citizen yourself living in the U.S., it's time for you therefore (based on your statement in the above) to teach others by example the "proper" way to treat your own flag: spread your own (American) flag under the chair and hoist the Iranian flag over your house tomorrow; and on the next American Independence  Day (July 4), repeat the same while using the North Korean flag (in the place of Iranian flag). Now, get going.

what should I get going on? juvenile behaviour of the kind you seem to endorse? trivializing good governance in india by raising a shrill voice against how some random person treats a flag, while meekly accepting cheaters like raja, kanimozhi, and kalmadi? 

have they been sentenced? have they compensated the nation for the billions of dollars they cheated me and my fellow indian citizens of? 

yet, your greatest concern is the so-called "desecration" of an indian flag!

let me correct some erroneous notions you seem to be entertaining:

1. I am a citizen of india, and have been one since birth;

2. I like being  indian;

3. I would not be perturbed by someone - one of 1.25 billion - in india "disrespecting" the indian flag or raising a pakistani flag; our value as a nation, and mine as a citizen, are not diminished by either action;

4. canada, the united states, and england, scotland and wales do not have laws prohibiting the desecration of their flags. (take a cue from the country that generously hosts you.)

swapna wrote:

yet, your greatest concern is the so-called "desecration" of an indian flag!

let me correct some erroneous notions you seem to be entertaining:

1. I am a citizen of india, and have been one since birth;

2. I like being  indian;

Are you eligible to vote in India ?

swapna wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:

ashdoc wrote:As the nation celebrated Independence Day on Saturday, two incidents that hurt the country's pride were reported from Uttar Pradesh. Subsequently, the police detained a youth for showing disrespect to the national flag.
In Gorakhpur, a youth not only unfurled the Pakistani flag in front of his house but also showed disregard to the Tricolour. Police detained Afroz Ansari after he spread the Tricolour on the ground and placed a chair on it to stand up and unfurl Pakistan's flag. Later, he also posted his picture on a social website. However, his father Shaukat Ali tendered an apology and said, "We are true nationalists. My son is immature and unable to differentiate right from wrong. I feel ashamed of his act and apologise to everybody for what he did."
In another case, a madrasa in Muradnagar area of Ghaziabad decided to sing Allama Iqbal's "Sare Jahan Se Achcha Hindustan Hamara" instead of Rabindranath Tagore's "Jana Gana Mana Adhinayak Jaya He."
While there was no issue till the Tricolour was hoisted and unfurled, manager of Noorpur Madrasa Darul Uloom Shadia Qari Khalil Ahmad suddenly stopped the students from singing "Jana Gana Mana." and asked them to sing "Sare Jahan Se Achchaâ" He reportedly told the students that the national anthem was completely against the ethics of the madrasa. Thereafter, he asked the students to sing Iqbal's poem. When asked, Ahmad told newspersons, "Sare Jahan Se Achcha is also a patriotic song and I don't see any problem is singing it in course of the Independence Day function," he argued.
While Iqbal was a celebrated Urdu poet, he is also remembered as one who had pushed for the idea of carving a separate country out of India way back in 1930.


https://in.news.yahoo.com/gorakhpur-youth-detained-after-unfurling-pakistan-flag-on-i-day-035705468.html

ah, dr. ashwin, I'm so glad that you are around to straighten out the muslims of india. 

these muslims don't know that india is a human being, that it has feelings like pride and dignity, and that our national flag is not merely a multicoloured piece of cloth, but the very embodiment of the hopes and aspirations of 1.25 billion people. 

I am surprised that you, being the patriot that you are, have not prescribed harsh punishment for ahmed that includes plans for his unpatriotic testicles.

jai hind!

As an American citizen yourself living in the U.S., it's time for you therefore (based on your statement in the above) to teach others by example the "proper" way to treat your own flag: spread your own (American) flag under the chair and hoist the Iranian flag over your house tomorrow; and on the next American Independence  Day (July 4), repeat the same while using the North Korean flag (in the place of Iranian flag). Now, get going.

what should I get going on? juvenile behaviour of the kind you seem to endorse? trivializing good governance in india by raising a shrill voice against how some random person treats a flag, while meekly accepting cheaters like raja, kanimozhi, and kalmadi? 

have they been sentenced? have they compensated the nation for the billions of dollars they cheated me and my fellow indian citizens of? 

yet, your greatest concern is the so-called "desecration" of an indian flag!

let me correct some erroneous notions you seem to be entertaining:

1. I am a citizen of india, and have been one since birth;

2. I like being  indian;

3. I would not be perturbed by someone - one of 1.25 billion - in india "disrespecting" the indian flag or raising a pakistani flag; our value as a nation, and mine as a citizen, are not diminished by either action;

4. canada, the united states, and england, scotland and wales do not have laws prohibiting the desecration of their flags. (take a cue from the country that generously hosts you.)

desecration of indian flag shows that this muslim person has hatred for india . in the past that hatred has led to partition of the country in the midst of horrific massacres . if muslim population increases same ( partition or horrific massacres or both ) could occur again , of course , i am very concerned .

[quote="ashdoc"][quote="swapna"][quote="Seva Lamberdar"][quote="swapna"][quote="ashdoc"][size=13]As the nation celebrated Independence Day on Saturday, two incidents that hurt the country's pride were reported from Uttar Pradesh. Subsequently, the police detained a youth for showing disrespect to the national flag.[/size]
[size=13]In Gorakhpur, a youth not only unfurled the Pakistani flag in front of his house but also showed disregard to the Tricolour. Police detained Afroz Ansari after he spread the Tricolour on the ground and placed a chair on it to stand up and unfurl Pakistan's flag. Later, he also posted his picture on a social website. However, his father Shaukat Ali tendered an apology and said, "We are true nationalists. My son is immature and unable to differentiate right from wrong. I feel ashamed of his act and apologise to everybody for what he did."[/size]
[size=13]In another case, a madrasa in Muradnagar area of Ghaziabad decided to sing Allama Iqbal's "Sare Jahan Se Achcha Hindustan Hamara" instead of Rabindranath Tagore's "Jana Gana Mana Adhinayak Jaya He."[/size]
[size=13]While there was no issue till the Tricolour was hoisted and unfurled, manager of Noorpur Madrasa Darul Uloom Shadia Qari Khalil Ahmad suddenly stopped the students from singing "Jana Gana Mana." and asked them to sing "Sare Jahan Se Achchaâ" He reportedly told the students that the national anthem was completely against the ethics of the madrasa. Thereafter, he asked the students to sing Iqbal's poem. When asked, Ahmad told newspersons, "Sare Jahan Se Achcha is also a patriotic song and I don't see any problem is singing it in course of the Independence Day function," he argued.[/size]
[size=13]While Iqbal was a celebrated Urdu poet, he is also remembered as one who had pushed for the idea of carving a separate country out of India way back in 1930.[/size]


https://in.news.yahoo.com/gorakhpur-youth-detained-after-unfurling-pakistan-flag-on-i-day-035705468.html[/quote]
ah, dr. ashwin, I'm so glad that you are around to straighten out the muslims of india. 

these muslims don't know that india is a human being, that it has feelings like pride and dignity, and that our national flag is not merely a multicoloured piece of cloth, but the very embodiment of the hopes and aspirations of 1.25 billion people. 

I am surprised that you, being the patriot that you are, have not prescribed harsh punishment for ahmed that includes plans for his unpatriotic testicles.

jai hind![/quote]
As an American citizen yourself living in the U.S., it's time for you therefore (based on your statement in the above) to teach others by example the "proper" way to treat your own flag: spread your own (American) flag under the chair and hoist the Iranian flag over your house tomorrow; and on the next American Independence  Day (July 4), repeat the same while using the North Korean flag (in the place of Iranian flag). Now, get going.[/quote]
what should I get going on? juvenile behaviour of the kind you seem to endorse? trivializing good governance in india by raising a shrill voice against how some random person treats a flag, while meekly accepting cheaters like raja, kanimozhi, and kalmadi? 

have they been sentenced? have they compensated the nation for the billions of dollars they cheated me and my fellow indian citizens of? 

yet, your greatest concern is the so-called "desecration" of an indian flag!

let me correct some erroneous notions you seem to be entertaining:

1. [b]I am a citizen of india[/b], and have been one since birth;

2. I like being  indian;

3. I would not be perturbed by someone - one of 1.25 billion - in india "disrespecting" the indian flag or raising a pakistani flag; our value as a nation, and mine as a citizen, are not diminished by either action;

4. [b]canada[/b], the united states, and england, scotland and wales do not have laws prohibiting the desecration of their flags. (take a cue from the country that generously hosts you.)[/quote]

desecration of indian flag shows that this muslim person has hatred for india.

** I don't think so. that muslim person was probably angry at the way hindus treat him in his own country, and expressed himself in a way that would provoke insecure people like you. I doubt if he has any feelings for pakistan or that country's flag. he knows that all he needs to do to make you piss in your pants is to display a pakistani flag; he was having some fun at your expense.

in the past that hatred has led to partition of the country in the midst of horrific massacres.

** it was not hatred that led to the horrific massacres, but british incompetence at managing a complex situation. moreover the sikhs massacred as much as the muslims did.

** it was the muslims' pragmatic assessment of their prospects in a united india that led to partion.

if muslim population increases same ( partition or horrific massacres or both ) could occur again , of course , i am very concerned.

** the hindu population of northindia is also increasing rapidly. I too am very concerned. you peepals will riot and make my country a miserable place.

** I.don't see any sign of muslims wanting a partition of today's india, nor do see signs of any massacre. [/quote]

see ** above for my responses.

swapna wrote:
blah blah blah and more unformated junk 

Will you ever learn to properly format the multi-pointed replies? If and when you learn, please will you also educate your friend, PN? And why don't you ever correct PN's errors? Even the obvious ones, such as "i'm a be sweet as pie. bye bye." in the "out of curiosity" post that you even replied to. Kind of "honor among thieves" pact?

swapna wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:

ashdoc wrote:As the nation celebrated Independence Day on Saturday, two incidents that hurt the country's pride were reported from Uttar Pradesh. Subsequently, the police detained a youth for showing disrespect to the national flag.
In Gorakhpur, a youth not only unfurled the Pakistani flag in front of his house but also showed disregard to the Tricolour. Police detained Afroz Ansari after he spread the Tricolour on the ground and placed a chair on it to stand up and unfurl Pakistan's flag. Later, he also posted his picture on a social website. However, his father Shaukat Ali tendered an apology and said, "We are true nationalists. My son is immature and unable to differentiate right from wrong. I feel ashamed of his act and apologise to everybody for what he did."
In another case, a madrasa in Muradnagar area of Ghaziabad decided to sing Allama Iqbal's "Sare Jahan Se Achcha Hindustan Hamara" instead of Rabindranath Tagore's "Jana Gana Mana Adhinayak Jaya He."
While there was no issue till the Tricolour was hoisted and unfurled, manager of Noorpur Madrasa Darul Uloom Shadia Qari Khalil Ahmad suddenly stopped the students from singing "Jana Gana Mana." and asked them to sing "Sare Jahan Se Achchaâ" He reportedly told the students that the national anthem was completely against the ethics of the madrasa. Thereafter, he asked the students to sing Iqbal's poem. When asked, Ahmad told newspersons, "Sare Jahan Se Achcha is also a patriotic song and I don't see any problem is singing it in course of the Independence Day function," he argued.
While Iqbal was a celebrated Urdu poet, he is also remembered as one who had pushed for the idea of carving a separate country out of India way back in 1930.


https://in.news.yahoo.com/gorakhpur-youth-detained-after-unfurling-pakistan-flag-on-i-day-035705468.html

ah, dr. ashwin, I'm so glad that you are around to straighten out the muslims of india. 

these muslims don't know that india is a human being, that it has feelings like pride and dignity, and that our national flag is not merely a multicoloured piece of cloth, but the very embodiment of the hopes and aspirations of 1.25 billion people. 

I am surprised that you, being the patriot that you are, have not prescribed harsh punishment for ahmed that includes plans for his unpatriotic testicles.

jai hind!

As an American citizen yourself living in the U.S., it's time for you therefore (based on your statement in the above) to teach others by example the "proper" way to treat your own flag: spread your own (American) flag under the chair and hoist the Iranian flag over your house tomorrow; and on the next American Independence  Day (July 4), repeat the same while using the North Korean flag (in the place of Iranian flag). Now, get going.

what should I get going on? juvenile behaviour of the kind you seem to endorse? trivializing good governance in india by raising a shrill voice against how some random person treats a flag, while meekly accepting cheaters like raja, kanimozhi, and kalmadi? 

have they been sentenced? have they compensated the nation for the billions of dollars they cheated me and my fellow indian citizens of? 

yet, your greatest concern is the so-called "desecration" of an indian flag!

let me correct some erroneous notions you seem to be entertaining:

1. I am a citizen of india, and have been one since birth;

2. I like being  indian;

3. I would not be perturbed by someone - one of 1.25 billion - in india "disrespecting" the indian flag or raising a pakistani flag; our value as a nation, and mine as a citizen, are not diminished by either action;

4. canada, the united states, and england, scotland and wales do not have laws prohibiting the desecration of their flags. (take a cue from the country that generously hosts you.)

As I had indicated in the earlier post, the numbers 1 & 4 in the red above are excellent reasons for you to practically demonstrate the "proper" flag treatment (according to you) while not even being the U.S. citizen. Feel free to show to people the American generosity and hospitality as an Indian citizen (as you claim yourself to be) living in the U.S., by putting the American flag beneath your chair and hoisting the Iranian or North Korean flag over your house on the American Independence Day (July 4).

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:

ashdoc wrote:As the nation celebrated Independence Day on Saturday, two incidents that hurt the country's pride were reported from Uttar Pradesh. Subsequently, the police detained a youth for showing disrespect to the national flag.
In Gorakhpur, a youth not only unfurled the Pakistani flag in front of his house but also showed disregard to the Tricolour. Police detained Afroz Ansari after he spread the Tricolour on the ground and placed a chair on it to stand up and unfurl Pakistan's flag. Later, he also posted his picture on a social website. However, his father Shaukat Ali tendered an apology and said, "We are true nationalists. My son is immature and unable to differentiate right from wrong. I feel ashamed of his act and apologise to everybody for what he did."
In another case, a madrasa in Muradnagar area of Ghaziabad decided to sing Allama Iqbal's "Sare Jahan Se Achcha Hindustan Hamara" instead of Rabindranath Tagore's "Jana Gana Mana Adhinayak Jaya He."
While there was no issue till the Tricolour was hoisted and unfurled, manager of Noorpur Madrasa Darul Uloom Shadia Qari Khalil Ahmad suddenly stopped the students from singing "Jana Gana Mana." and asked them to sing "Sare Jahan Se Achchaâ" He reportedly told the students that the national anthem was completely against the ethics of the madrasa. Thereafter, he asked the students to sing Iqbal's poem. When asked, Ahmad told newspersons, "Sare Jahan Se Achcha is also a patriotic song and I don't see any problem is singing it in course of the Independence Day function," he argued.
While Iqbal was a celebrated Urdu poet, he is also remembered as one who had pushed for the idea of carving a separate country out of India way back in 1930.


https://in.news.yahoo.com/gorakhpur-youth-detained-after-unfurling-pakistan-flag-on-i-day-035705468.html

ah, dr. ashwin, I'm so glad that you are around to straighten out the muslims of india. 

these muslims don't know that india is a human being, that it has feelings like pride and dignity, and that our national flag is not merely a multicoloured piece of cloth, but the very embodiment of the hopes and aspirations of 1.25 billion people. 

I am surprised that you, being the patriot that you are, have not prescribed harsh punishment for ahmed that includes plans for his unpatriotic testicles.

jai hind!

As an American citizen yourself living in the U.S., it's time for you therefore (based on your statement in the above) to teach others by example the "proper" way to treat your own flag: spread your own (American) flag under the chair and hoist the Iranian flag over your house tomorrow; and on the next American Independence  Day (July 4), repeat the same while using the North Korean flag (in the place of Iranian flag). Now, get going.

what should I get going on? juvenile behaviour of the kind you seem to endorse? trivializing good governance in india by raising a shrill voice against how some random person treats a flag, while meekly accepting cheaters like raja, kanimozhi, and kalmadi? 

have they been sentenced? have they compensated the nation for the billions of dollars they cheated me and my fellow indian citizens of? 

yet, your greatest concern is the so-called "desecration" of an indian flag!

let me correct some erroneous notions you seem to be entertaining:

1. I am a citizen of india, and have been one since birth;

2. I like being  indian;

3. I would not be perturbed by someone - one of 1.25 billion - in india "disrespecting" the indian flag or raising a pakistani flag; our value as a nation, and mine as a citizen, are not diminished by either action;

4. canada, the united states, and england, scotland and wales do not have laws prohibiting the desecration of their flags. (take a cue from the country that generously hosts you.)

As I had indicated in the earlier post, the numbers 1 & 4 in the red above are excellent reasons for you to practically demonstrate the "proper" flag treatment (according to you) while not even being the U.S. citizen. Feel free to show to people the American generosity and hospitality as an Indian citizen (as you claim yourself to be) living in the U.S., by putting the American flag beneath your chair and hoisting the Iranian or North Korean flag over your house on the American Independence Day (July 4).

your latest argument is illogical, I.e. it's a logic fail:

if A implies B, it's not possible that A' (also) implies B, where A' is the negation of A. here, A could be: "swapna is a citizen of the u.s."

to verify what I've said, draw a venn diagram, or write a truth table.

swapna wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:
ah, dr. ashwin, I'm so glad that you are around to straighten out the muslims of india. 

these muslims don't know that india is a human being, that it has feelings like pride and dignity, and that our national flag is not merely a multicoloured piece of cloth, but the very embodiment of the hopes and aspirations of 1.25 billion people. 

I am surprised that you, being the patriot that you are, have not prescribed harsh punishment for ahmed that includes plans for his unpatriotic testicles.

jai hind!

As an American citizen yourself living in the U.S., it's time for you therefore (based on your statement in the above) to teach others by example the "proper" way to treat your own flag: spread your own (American) flag under the chair and hoist the Iranian flag over your house tomorrow; and on the next American Independence  Day (July 4), repeat the same while using the North Korean flag (in the place of Iranian flag). Now, get going.

what should I get going on? juvenile behaviour of the kind you seem to endorse? trivializing good governance in india by raising a shrill voice against how some random person treats a flag, while meekly accepting cheaters like raja, kanimozhi, and kalmadi? 

have they been sentenced? have they compensated the nation for the billions of dollars they cheated me and my fellow indian citizens of? 

yet, your greatest concern is the so-called "desecration" of an indian flag!

let me correct some erroneous notions you seem to be entertaining:

1. I am a citizen of india, and have been one since birth;

2. I like being  indian;

3. I would not be perturbed by someone - one of 1.25 billion - in india "disrespecting" the indian flag or raising a pakistani flag; our value as a nation, and mine as a citizen, are not diminished by either action;

4. canada, the united states, and england, scotland and wales do not have laws prohibiting the desecration of their flags. (take a cue from the country that generously hosts you.)

As I had indicated in the earlier post, the numbers 1 & 4 in the red above are excellent reasons for you to practically demonstrate the "proper" flag treatment (according to you) while not even being the U.S. citizen. Feel free to show to people the American generosity and hospitality as an Indian citizen (as you claim yourself to be) living in the U.S., by putting the American flag beneath your chair and hoisting the Iranian or North Korean flag over your house on the American Independence Day (July 4).

your latest argument is illogical, I.e. it's a logic fail:

if A implies B, it's not possible that A' (also) implies B, where A' is the negation of A. here, A could be: "swapna is a citizen of the u.s."

to verify what I've said, draw a venn diagram, or write a truth table.

It is i.e. not I.e - case usage fail.
Why did you conveniently not answer my questions? No answer fail?

swapna , it was definitely hatred for hindus that led to partition of the country . because muslims did not just partition the country . they ethnically cleansed out all hindus and sikhs from pakistan . together , hindus and sikhs formed 20 percent of pakistans population before 1947, but today they form only 1-2 percent . 

you say that the muslim person is angry that we hindus treat him badly . but actually hindus have allowed muslims to not only stay in india but grow in population . this is totally different from the treatment given to hindus in pakistan where most have been ethnically cleansed . 

hindu population of north india is growing slower than north indian muslims . more likely , given the past experience of partition massacres , it is muslims who are likely to riot than north indian hindus . and when muslim population increases to sufficient numbers , it will not just be a riot , it will ethnic cleansing of hindus and sikhs .

amazingly , inspite of the jehad in kashmir , you dont see any signs of muslims wanting partition . so everything that you will argue with me now will have to be taken with a pinch of salt . what else can done with someone who is blind to such an obvious situation .

and the person who was disrespecting the indian flag was not having fun , he was courting police trouble . inspite of the risk involved he did it---shows how much he has hatred for india that he is willing to court police trouble for what he did . and shows your mentality that you think that disrespecting the national flag can be anybody's idea of fun .

During college days, students in Madurai have burnt the flag on Aug 15 and Jan 26.

Kayalvizhi wrote:During college days, students in Madurai have burnt the flag on Aug 15 and Jan 26.

proves that the intention of disrespecting the national flag is seperatism .

swapna wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:
ah, dr. ashwin, I'm so glad that you are around to straighten out the muslims of india. 

these muslims don't know that india is a human being, that it has feelings like pride and dignity, and that our national flag is not merely a multicoloured piece of cloth, but the very embodiment of the hopes and aspirations of 1.25 billion people. 

I am surprised that you, being the patriot that you are, have not prescribed harsh punishment for ahmed that includes plans for his unpatriotic testicles.

jai hind!

As an American citizen yourself living in the U.S., it's time for you therefore (based on your statement in the above) to teach others by example the "proper" way to treat your own flag: spread your own (American) flag under the chair and hoist the Iranian flag over your house tomorrow; and on the next American Independence  Day (July 4), repeat the same while using the North Korean flag (in the place of Iranian flag). Now, get going.

what should I get going on? juvenile behaviour of the kind you seem to endorse? trivializing good governance in india by raising a shrill voice against how some random person treats a flag, while meekly accepting cheaters like raja, kanimozhi, and kalmadi? 

have they been sentenced? have they compensated the nation for the billions of dollars they cheated me and my fellow indian citizens of? 

yet, your greatest concern is the so-called "desecration" of an indian flag!

let me correct some erroneous notions you seem to be entertaining:

1. I am a citizen of india, and have been one since birth;

2. I like being  indian;

3. I would not be perturbed by someone - one of 1.25 billion - in india "disrespecting" the indian flag or raising a pakistani flag; our value as a nation, and mine as a citizen, are not diminished by either action;

4. canada, the united states, and england, scotland and wales do not have laws prohibiting the desecration of their flags. (take a cue from the country that generously hosts you.)

As I had indicated in the earlier post, the numbers 1 & 4 in the red above are excellent reasons for you to practically demonstrate the "proper" flag treatment (according to you) while not even being the U.S. citizen. Feel free to show to people the American generosity and hospitality as an Indian citizen (as you claim yourself to be) living in the U.S.,

your latest argument is illogical, I.e. it's a logic fail:

if A implies B, it's not possible that A' (also) implies B, where A' is the negation of A. here, A could be: "swapna is a citizen of the u.s."

to verify what I've said, draw a venn diagram, or write a truth table.

Forget the logic, first find a cure for your foot in the mouth disease.
 
You think, as you implied earlier, that there is nothing wrong for someone in India to spread the Indian flag on the ground and instead hoist the Pakistani flag over the house on Indian Independence day (Aug. 15) and that nobody in U.S.A etc. will take an offense from such things about the American flag etc., you need to prove your point through demonstration (considering you live in the U.S.)  by putting the American flag beneath your chair and hoisting the Iranian or North Korean flag over your house on the American Independence Day (July 4).

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
As an American citizen yourself living in the U.S., it's time for you therefore (based on your statement in the above) to teach others by example the "proper" way to treat your own flag: spread your own (American) flag under the chair and hoist the Iranian flag over your house tomorrow; and on the next American Independence  Day (July 4), repeat the same while using the North Korean flag (in the place of Iranian flag). Now, get going.

what should I get going on? juvenile behaviour of the kind you seem to endorse? trivializing good governance in india by raising a shrill voice against how some random person treats a flag, while meekly accepting cheaters like raja, kanimozhi, and kalmadi? 

have they been sentenced? have they compensated the nation for the billions of dollars they cheated me and my fellow indian citizens of? 

yet, your greatest concern is the so-called "desecration" of an indian flag!

let me correct some erroneous notions you seem to be entertaining:

1. I am a citizen of india, and have been one since birth;

2. I like being  indian;

3. I would not be perturbed by someone - one of 1.25 billion - in india "disrespecting" the indian flag or raising a pakistani flag; our value as a nation, and mine as a citizen, are not diminished by either action;

4. canada, the united states, and england, scotland and wales do not have laws prohibiting the desecration of their flags. (take a cue from the country that generously hosts you.)

As I had indicated in the earlier post, the numbers 1 & 4 in the red above are excellent reasons for you to practically demonstrate the "proper" flag treatment (according to you) while not even being the U.S. citizen. Feel free to show to people the American generosity and hospitality as an Indian citizen (as you claim yourself to be) living in the U.S.,

your latest argument is illogical, I.e. it's a logic fail:

if A implies B, it's not possible that A' (also) implies B, where A' is the negation of A. here, A could be: "swapna is a citizen of the u.s."

to verify what I've said, draw a venn diagram, or write a truth table.

Forget the logic, first find a cure for your foot in the mouth disease.
 
You think, as you implied earlier, that there is nothing wrong for someone in India to spread the Indian flag on the ground and instead hoist the Pakistani flag over the house on Indian Independence day (Aug. 15) and that nobody in U.S.A etc. will take an offense from such things about the American flag etc., you need to prove your point through demonstration (considering you live in the U.S.)  by putting the American flag beneath your chair and hoisting the Iranian or North Korean flag over your house on the American Independence Day (July 4).

"forget the logic" -- seva.

I am shocked that those words were uttered by a fellow iit alum!

that demonstrates what religiosity and pseudo-nationalism can do to what may earlier have been healthy, functioning brains.

swapna wrote:
"forget the logic" -- seva.

I am shocked that those words were uttered by a fellow iit alum!

that demonstrates what religiosity and pseudo-nationalism can do to what may earlier have been healthy, functioning brains.

Forget the logic and iLlogic....Just answer my question

Just highlight your answer:

Are you eligible to vote in India?

YES

NO

swapna wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:
what should I get going on? juvenile behaviour of the kind you seem to endorse? trivializing good governance in india by raising a shrill voice against how some random person treats a flag, while meekly accepting cheaters like raja, kanimozhi, and kalmadi? 

have they been sentenced? have they compensated the nation for the billions of dollars they cheated me and my fellow indian citizens of? 

yet, your greatest concern is the so-called "desecration" of an indian flag!

let me correct some erroneous notions you seem to be entertaining:

1. I am a citizen of india, and have been one since birth;

2. I like being  indian;

3. I would not be perturbed by someone - one of 1.25 billion - in india "disrespecting" the indian flag or raising a pakistani flag; our value as a nation, and mine as a citizen, are not diminished by either action;

4. canada, the united states, and england, scotland and wales do not have laws prohibiting the desecration of their flags. (take a cue from the country that generously hosts you.)

As I had indicated in the earlier post, the numbers 1 & 4 in the red above are excellent reasons for you to practically demonstrate the "proper" flag treatment (according to you) while not even being the U.S. citizen. Feel free to show to people the American generosity and hospitality as an Indian citizen (as you claim yourself to be) living in the U.S.,

your latest argument is illogical, I.e. it's a logic fail:

if A implies B, it's not possible that A' (also) implies B, where A' is the negation of A. here, A could be: "swapna is a citizen of the u.s."

to verify what I've said, draw a venn diagram, or write a truth table.

Forget the logic, first find a cure for your foot in the mouth disease.
 
You think, as you implied earlier, that there is nothing wrong for someone in India to spread the Indian flag on the ground and instead hoist the Pakistani flag over the house on Indian Independence day (Aug. 15) and that nobody in U.S.A etc. will take an offense from such things about the American flag etc., you need to prove your point through demonstration (considering you live in the U.S.)  by putting the American flag beneath your chair and hoisting the Iranian or North Korean flag over your house on the American Independence Day (July 4).

"forget the logic" -- seva.

I am shocked that those words were uttered by a fellow iit alum!

that demonstrates what religiosity and pseudo-nationalism can do to what may earlier have been healthy, functioning brains.

We will return to logic and iit alum stuff (including religiosity and pseudo-nationalism) after you first cure yourself from the foot in the mouth condition, as I had indicated earlier -- 
"Forget the logic, first find a cure for your foot in the mouth disease. You think, as you implied earlier, that there is nothing wrong for someone in India to spread the Indian flag on the ground and instead hoist the Pakistani flag over the house on Indian Independence day (Aug. 15) and that nobody in U.S.A etc. will take an offense from such things about the American flag etc., you need to prove your point through demonstration (considering you live in the U.S.)  by putting the American flag beneath your chair and hoisting the Iranian or North Korean flag over your house on the American Independence Day (July 4)"

BAREILLY: In a strange incident, a primary school teacher reportedly brought down the national flag during recently held Independence Day celebrations and trampled it under his feet leaving onlookers surprised and puzzled.

Ram Asrey Yadav, teacher at Poorva Madhyamik Vidyalaya, Chaudera, arrived with another man on a motorcycle for I-Day celebrations at the school. In a spur of moment, he grabbed the string used to hoist the flag and brought it down. Before fellow teachers could react, he fled from the spot even as those present tried to catch hold of him.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bareilly/Teacher-arrested-for-trampling-flag-on-I-Day/articleshow/48518244.cms

Are Yadavs [im]pure Hindus?!

confuzzled dude wrote:

BAREILLY: In a strange incident, a primary school teacher reportedly brought down the national flag during recently held Independence Day celebrations and trampled it under his feet leaving onlookers surprised and puzzled.

Ram Asrey Yadav, teacher at Poorva Madhyamik Vidyalaya, Chaudera, arrived with another man on a motorcycle for I-Day celebrations at the school. In a spur of moment, he grabbed the string used to hoist the flag and brought it down. Before fellow teachers could react, he fled from the spot even as those present tried to catch hold of him.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bareilly/Teacher-arrested-for-trampling-flag-on-I-Day/articleshow/48518244.cms

Are Yadavs [im]pure Hindus?!

You seem to be implying that this guy Yadav (usually a Hindu sounding name) is definitely a Hindu, which may or may not be true. Even the well-known Bollywood personality Mahesh Bhatt (with a very much Hindu name) is a Muslim by religion. So, there is no basis for your statement as far as the Hindu sounding name (Yadav) is concerned. 
Btw, isn't there a chance that this guy named Yadav, even if a Hindu, could be mistreating / mishandling the Indian flag because of undue pressure or in return for payment (cash or some other favor) from another person / source (including a non-Hindu or a non-Indian)?

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

BAREILLY: In a strange incident, a primary school teacher reportedly brought down the national flag during recently held Independence Day celebrations and trampled it under his feet leaving onlookers surprised and puzzled.

Ram Asrey Yadav, teacher at Poorva Madhyamik Vidyalaya, Chaudera, arrived with another man on a motorcycle for I-Day celebrations at the school. In a spur of moment, he grabbed the string used to hoist the flag and brought it down. Before fellow teachers could react, he fled from the spot even as those present tried to catch hold of him.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bareilly/Teacher-arrested-for-trampling-flag-on-I-Day/articleshow/48518244.cms

Are Yadavs [im]pure Hindus?!

You seem to be implying that this guy Yadav (usually a Hindu sounding name) is definitely a Hindu, which may or may not be true. Even the well-known Bollywood personality Mahesh Bhatt (with a very much Hindu name) is a Muslim by religion. So, there is no basis for your statement as far as the Hindu sounding name (Yadav) is concerned. 
Btw, isn't there a chance that this guy named Yadav, even if a Hindu, could be mistreating / mishandling the Indian flag because of undue pressure or in return for payment (cash or some other favor) from another person / source (including a non-Hindu or a non-Indian)?

i agree with you. actually pseudo-seculars like cd, md and the ever deranged flim flam (unsure which category to put him in save mentally-cracked) should be made to undergo this experience (cannot authenticate that it was actually written by a canadian minister but so practical as an advice):

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/07/adopt-a-terrorist-the-canadian-minister-of-defense-has-a-dead-on-sense-of-humor-2994188.html wrote:A Canadian female liberal wrote a lot of letters to the Canadian government, complaining about the treatment of captive insurgents (terrorists) being held in Afghanistan National Correctional System facilities. She demanded a response to her letter.
She received back the following reply:
  
National Defense Headquarters
M Gen George R. Pearkes Bldg., 15 NT
101 Colonel By Drive
Ottawa , ON K1A 0K2
Canada


Dear Concerned Citizen,

Thank you for your recent letter expressing your profound concern of treatment of the Taliban and Al Qaeda terrorists captured by Canadian Forces, who were subsequently transferred to the Afghanistan Government and are currently being held by Afghan officials in Afghanistan National Correctional System facilities.

Our administration takes these matters seriously and your opinions were heard loud and clear here in Ottawa .. You will be pleased to learn, thanks to the concerns of citizens like yourself, we are creating a new department here at the Department of National Defense, to be called ‘Liberals Accept Responsibility for Killers’ program, or L.A.R.K. for short.

In accordance with the guidelines of this new program, we have decided, on a trial basis, to divert several terrorists and place them in homes of concerned citizens such as yourself, around the country, under those citizens personal care. Your personal detainee has been selected and is scheduled for transportation under heavily armed guard to your residence in Toronto next Monday.

Ali Mohammed Ahmed bin Mahmud is your detainee, and is to be cared for pursuant to the standards you personally demanded in your letter of complaint. You will be pleased to know that we will conduct weekly inspections to ensure that your standards of care for Ahmed are commensurate with your recommendations.
Although Ahmed is a sociopath and extremely violent, we hope that your sensitivity to what you described as his ‘attitudinal problem’ will help him overcome those character flaws. Perhaps you are correct in describing these problems as mere cultural differences. We understand that you plan to offer counselling and home schooling, however, we strongly recommend that you hire some assistant caretakers.



Please advise any Jewish friends, neighbours or relatives about your house guest, as he might get agitated or even violent, but we are sure you can reason with him.  He is also expert at making a wide variety of explosive devices from common household products, so you may wish to keep those items locked up, unless in your opinion, this might offend him.  Your adopted terrorist is extremely proficient in hand-to-hand combat and can extinguish human life with such simple items as a pencil or nail clippers.  We advise that you do not ask him to demonstrate these skills either in your home or wherever you choose to take him while helping him adjust to life in our country.


Ahmed will not wish to interact with you or your daughters except sexually, since he views females as a form of property, thereby having no rights, including refusal of his sexual demands.  This is a particularly sensitive subject for him.

You also should know that he has shown violent tendencies around women who fail to comply with the dress code that he will recommend as more appropriate attire.  I’m sure you will come to enjoy the anonymity offered by the burka over time. Just remember that it is all part of respecting his culture and religious beliefs’ as described in your letter.

You take good care of Ahmed and remember that we will try to have a counsellor available to help you over any difficulties you encounter while Ahmed is adjusting to Canadian culture.

Thanks again for your concern.  We truly appreciate it when folks like you keep us informed of the proper way to do our job and care for our fellow man.  Good luck and God bless you.

Cordially,
Gordon O’Connor
Minister of National Defense

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
As I had indicated in the earlier post, the numbers 1 & 4 in the red above are excellent reasons for you to practically demonstrate the "proper" flag treatment (according to you) while not even being the U.S. citizen. Feel free to show to people the American generosity and hospitality as an Indian citizen (as you claim yourself to be) living in the U.S.,

your latest argument is illogical, I.e. it's a logic fail:

if A implies B, it's not possible that A' (also) implies B, where A' is the negation of A. here, A could be: "swapna is a citizen of the u.s."

to verify what I've said, draw a venn diagram, or write a truth table.

Forget the logic, first find a cure for your foot in the mouth disease.
 
You think, as you implied earlier, that there is nothing wrong for someone in India to spread the Indian flag on the ground and instead hoist the Pakistani flag over the house on Indian Independence day (Aug. 15) and that nobody in U.S.A etc. will take an offense from such things about the American flag etc., you need to prove your point through demonstration (considering you live in the U.S.)  by putting the American flag beneath your chair and hoisting the Iranian or North Korean flag over your house on the American Independence Day (July 4).

"forget the logic" -- seva.

I am shocked that those words were uttered by a fellow iit alum!

that demonstrates what religiosity and pseudo-nationalism can do to what may earlier have been healthy, functioning brains.

We will return to logic and iit alum stuff (including religiosity and pseudo-nationalism) after you first cure yourself from the foot in the mouth condition, as I had indicated earlier -- 
"Forget the logic, first find a cure for your foot in the mouth disease. [size=63]You think, as you implied earlier, that there is nothing wrong for someone in India to spread the Indian flag on the ground and instead hoist the Pakistani flag over the house on Indian Independence day (Aug. 15) and that nobody in U.S.A etc. will take an offense from such things about the American flag etc., you need to prove your point through demonstration (considering you live in the U.S.)  by putting the American flag beneath your chair and hoisting the Iranian or North Korean flag over your house on the American Independence Day (July 4)[/size]"

here are some sure signs of foot-in-mouth disease:

1. urging someone to "forget logic.";

2. claiming that both A and A' imply B, where A' is the negation of A;

3. an iit alum who is probably not an indian citizen getting worked up about a random, angry young man - one person in 1.25 billion people - "disrespecting" an indian flag and hoisting "archenemy" pakistan's flag, while being unconcerned about:

(a) the abysmally low average standard of living in india; (23% of india's population live below the poverty line, and they form 33% of the world's poor.)

(b) india's egregious literacy rate of 74%, according to the 2011 census; a nation's literacy rate is highly correlated with its standard of living. china's is 95%, and sri lanka's, 98%; still stewing over ahmed's "disrespect" to the indian flag?

(c) the inability and the lack of political will of successive indian governments, including the latest, but except narasimha rao's, to do what's obviously necessary to deregulate and free india of restrictions, for example, labour laws that impede its economic development;

(d) the continued oppression of segments of the indian population, based on the caste system, as described in this b.b.c. article and accompanying photographs:

www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-28892321

yet, iit alum, your greatest concern is over one random, disgruntled young muslim "disrespecting" an indian flag!

a challenge: show where I have written that "[size=63]there is nothing wrong for someone in India to spread the Indian flag on the ground and instead hoist the Pakistani flag over the house on Indian Independence day (Aug. 15) and that nobody in U.S.A etc. will take an offense from such things about the American flag etc."[/size]

[size=63]if you cannot, apologize for lying.[/size]

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

BAREILLY: In a strange incident, a primary school teacher reportedly brought down the national flag during recently held Independence Day celebrations and trampled it under his feet leaving onlookers surprised and puzzled.

Ram Asrey Yadav, teacher at Poorva Madhyamik Vidyalaya, Chaudera, arrived with another man on a motorcycle for I-Day celebrations at the school. In a spur of moment, he grabbed the string used to hoist the flag and brought it down. Before fellow teachers could react, he fled from the spot even as those present tried to catch hold of him.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bareilly/Teacher-arrested-for-trampling-flag-on-I-Day/articleshow/48518244.cms

Are Yadavs [im]pure Hindus?!

You seem to be implying that this guy Yadav (usually a Hindu sounding name) is definitely a Hindu, which may or may not be true. Even the well-known Bollywood personality Mahesh Bhatt (with a very much Hindu name) is a Muslim by religion. So, there is no basis for your statement as far as the Hindu sounding name (Yadav) is concerned. 
Btw, isn't there a chance that this guy named Yadav, even if a Hindu, could be mistreating / mishandling the Indian flag because of undue pressure or in return for payment (cash or some other favor) from another person / source (including a non-Hindu or a non-Indian)?

Mahesh Bhatt is as much Muslim as he is a Hindu.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

BAREILLY: In a strange incident, a primary school teacher reportedly brought down the national flag during recently held Independence Day celebrations and trampled it under his feet leaving onlookers surprised and puzzled.

Ram Asrey Yadav, teacher at Poorva Madhyamik Vidyalaya, Chaudera, arrived with another man on a motorcycle for I-Day celebrations at the school. In a spur of moment, he grabbed the string used to hoist the flag and brought it down. Before fellow teachers could react, he fled from the spot even as those present tried to catch hold of him.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bareilly/Teacher-arrested-for-trampling-flag-on-I-Day/articleshow/48518244.cms

Are Yadavs [im]pure Hindus?!

You seem to be implying that this guy Yadav (usually a Hindu sounding name) is definitely a Hindu, which may or may not be true. Even the well-known Bollywood personality Mahesh Bhatt (with a very much Hindu name) is a Muslim by religion. So, there is no basis for your statement as far as the Hindu sounding name (Yadav) is concerned. 
Btw, isn't there a chance that this guy named Yadav, even if a Hindu, could be mistreating / mishandling the Indian flag because of undue pressure or in return for payment (cash or some other favor) from another person / source (including a non-Hindu or a non-Indian)?

Mahesh Bhatt is as much Muslim as he is a Hindu.

Didn't he before the last Indian parliamentary elections campaigned feverishly against Modi as the potential prime minister posing a serious threat to India's secularism?  Check out with Rashmun!

the bbc photo story on manual scavengers is sad and disgusting.  and it's dated 2014!

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:the bbc photo story on manual scavengers is sad and disgusting.  and it's dated 2014!

Did the BBC check out with the Indian authorities (e.g. police etc.) about people being forced to scavenge by others before publishing the story? Btw do you also have info. on the BBC story on Sadam's sad and disgusting weapons of mass destruction?

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:the bbc photo story on manual scavengers is sad and disgusting.  and it's dated 2014!

Did the BBC check out with the Indian authorities (e.g. police etc.) about people being forced to scavenge by others before publishing the story? Btw do you also have info. on the BBC story on Sadam's sad and disgusting weapons of mass destruction?

the very existence of the conditions that leads to people having to do this whether they are forced or not is disgusting don't you think? i thought this scourge was not prevalent in my home state, but it still is in pockets.



not sure what saddam and his weapons have to do with manual scavenging in india.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:the bbc photo story on manual scavengers is sad and disgusting.  and it's dated 2014!

Did the BBC check out with the Indian authorities (e.g. police etc.) about people being forced to scavenge by others before publishing the story? Btw do you also have info. on the BBC story on Sadam's sad and disgusting weapons of mass destruction?

the very existence of the conditions that leads to people having to do this whether they are forced or not is disgusting don't you think? i thought this scourge was not prevalent in my home state, but it still is in pockets.  

not sure what saddam and his weapons have to do with manual scavenging in india.

I didn't understand your posting the 2014 BBC news / video about scavenging in India on this thread (flag hoisting).
Moreover, the BBC coverage on such issues usually creates a lot of unnecessary sensationalism without being really objective and is geared to the higher ratings for that network. Remember the BBC documentary on the gang rape victim a few years ago, with much coverage and interviews etc.on one of the rapist / killer, released on the international women's day under the headline "India's daughter"? Anyway, as for the Indians doing janitorial work etc., here is more / better info. in the following.
http://www.geocities.ws/lamberdar/dalit.html