On a National Language for India

by Hellsangel Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:40 pm

Not sure who said this and it is not verbatim:

If Hindi should be the Indian national language for having the most number of speakers, the crow should be the national bird of India for being the largest population of birds in India.

by Guest Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:46 pm

http://www.euractiv.com/culture/french-eu-elite-abandons-defensi-news-519244

by Kayalvizhi Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:25 am

Hellsangel wrote:Not sure who said this and it is not verbatim:

If Hindi should be the Indian national language for having the most number of speakers, the crow should be the national bird of India for being the largest population of birds in India.

C.N. Annadurai said that many times but he may be quoting someone. I do not know.

by seven Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:42 pm

Whoever thinks we should use number to decide what should be our national bird is an idiot.

Bird is symbolic. What qualities it has that we, as a nation, strive for, stand for. That's why crow was not a good choice.

Language otoh is any language that majority people speak/understand becomes your de facto national language.

If your language was not picked, you get bitter and suggest we should not use number for language to determine what should be the national language because birds and animals and flowers are not chosen based on numbers, you look like an angry idiot.

by garam_kuta Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:25 pm

actually crow is the right choice,i should think- the canonical example for solidarity, caring and sharing and such.

by Guest Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:41 pm

garam_kuta wrote:actually crow is the right choice,i should think- the canonical example for solidarity, caring and sharing and such.

why not sparrow?

by seven Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:15 pm

garam_kuta wrote:actually crow is the right choice,i should think- the canonical example for solidarity, caring and sharing and such.

Yep. Angry idiot like I imagined.

by Appalamma Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:28 pm

Hellsangel wrote:Not sure who said this and it is not verbatim:

If Hindi should be the Indian national language for having the most number of speakers, the crow should be the national bird of India for being the largest population of birds in India.

Crow has a better case than Hindi. Crows are found all over India.

by garam_kuta Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:53 pm

seven wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:actually crow is the right choice,i should think- the canonical example for solidarity, caring and sharing and such.
Yep. Angry idiot like I imagined.

at least, not a fanatic Smile

-that includes idiots, angry and such

by seven Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:57 pm

garam_kuta wrote:
seven wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:actually crow is the right choice,i should think- the canonical example for solidarity, caring and sharing and such.
Yep. Angry idiot like I imagined.

at least, not a fanatic -that includes idiots, angry and such

You mean like kayal. Yes.

by garam_kuta Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:13 pm

seven wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
seven wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:actually crow is the right choice,i should think- the canonical example for solidarity, caring and sharing and such.
Yep. Angry idiot like I imagined.

at least, not a fanatic -that includes idiots, angry and such
You mean like kayal. Yes.

I didn't say that, but if so, there is company now, it appears Razz

...wonder you include the OP in this context...

by swapna Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:27 pm

seven wrote:Whoever thinks we should use number to decide what should be our national bird is an idiot.

Bird is symbolic. What qualities it has that we, as a nation, strive for, stand for. That's why crow was not a good choice.

Language otoh is any language that majority people speak/understand becomes your de facto national language.

If your language was not picked, you get bitter and suggest we should not use number for language to determine what should be the national language because birds and animals and flowers are not chosen based on numbers, you look like an angry idiot.

as you know, india doesn't have a national language. but if we insisted on having one, hindi will surely be selected, if the criterion were:

1. the language spoken by the group with the largest number of illiterates in the population;

2. the language spoken by the group with the largest number of rapists in the population;

3. the language spoken by the group performing the largest number of female feticides in the country.

by seven Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:45 pm

Illiteracy is not a crime you know. It's better than becoming like you, literate online spelling corrector.

Tamilnadu rapes trump Hindi rapists. Also counting rapists to decide national language is a suggestion that can only come from a literate online grammar corrector like you.

by garam_kuta Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:56 pm

garam_kuta wrote:
seven wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
seven wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:actually crow is the right choice,i should think- the canonical example for solidarity, caring and sharing and such.
Yep. Angry idiot like I imagined.

at least, not a fanatic -that includes idiots, angry and such
You mean like kayal. Yes.
I didn't say that, but if so, there is company now, it appears
...wonder you include the OP in this context...

I am still intrigued by your picking on someone who was just trying to help the OP identify the person that made the statement; if you found the post inflammatory, you should be asking the OP, as it's the OP who found it worthwhile to post it, init?

by seven Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:14 am

garam_kuta wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
seven wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
seven wrote:
Yep. Angry idiot like I imagined.

at least, not a fanatic -that includes idiots, angry and such
You mean like kayal. Yes.
I didn't say that, but if so, there is company now, it appears
...wonder you include the OP in this context...

I am still intrigued by your picking on someone who was just trying to help the OP identify the person that made the statement; if you found the post inflammatory, you should be asking the OP, as it's the OP who found it worthwhile to post it, init?

i posted to no one in particular when i said whoever said india's national bird should be crow is an idiot. i said if you're upset and suggest crow should be our national bird, you sound like an angry idiot..you here is anyone who is upset and suggests crow as our national bird.
don't take it personally. i quoted you as an example of what i said in my original post.

by Kayalvizhi Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:31 am

seven wrote:]

Tamilnadu rapes trump Hindi rapists.

These rapists are not natives (TN citizens). Most are migrants from Hindi lands. Here is some information

http://www.tamiltribune.com/98/1001.html

by seven Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:52 am

Kayalvizhi wrote:
seven wrote:]

Tamilnadu rapes trump Hindi rapists.

These rapists are not natives (TN citizens). Most are migrants from Hindi lands. Here is some information

http://www.tamiltribune.com/98/1001.html

You mean these rapsists are not natsvie. Most mkgrsnts from hinfi land?

by garam_kuta Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:28 am

again, crow is ubiquitous and easily accessible to essentially all households in india. all indians have personable experience with crows- i am not sure that would be case with peacocks.

This is somewhat like those confined to relatively warmer/hot climates all through the year are at a total loss and are frustrated in school, when 'baba black sheep..' and at a later stage 'daffodils' and such are shoved down their throats, as they can't relate to those remote things that can be viewed only as distant magical stuff - of course, before internet and all.

by seven Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:52 pm

I like what a peacock symbolizes. Not crow. The quote suggested it should be the number that decides what should be our national bird. I said I don't think it should be the number but what it symbolizes.

by garam_kuta Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:18 pm

seven wrote:I like what a peacock symbolizes. Not crow. The quote suggested it should be the number that decides what should be our national bird. I said I don't think it should be the number but what it symbolizes.

Please enlighten us on what does a peacock symbolize vis-a-vis a crow that would enable every Indian relate to it.

by seven Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:51 pm

Ugaram_kuta wrote:
seven wrote:I like what a peacock symbolizes. Not crow. The quote suggested it should be the number that decides what should be our national bird. I said I don't think it should be the number but what it symbolizes.

Please enlighten us on what does a peacock symbolize vis-a-vis a crow that would enable every Indian relate to it.

Crow Symbolism - A Quick Reference List

Cocky

Tricky

Playful

Magical

Curious

Secretive

Confident

Protective

Mysterious

Unpredictable

Symbolic Peacock Meanings

Glory
Vision
Royalty
Spirituality
Awakening
Immortality
Refinement
Incorruptibility

by seven Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:11 pm

Who would you like to relate to as a country?

by Guest Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:12 pm

seven, you bent on proving their case for them?

by seven Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:14 pm

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:seven, you bent on proving their case for them?

I'm defending peacock.

If they win, they can make crow their national bird of tamil country if they like crow so much.

by garam_kuta Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:13 pm

seven wrote:
Beatrix Kiddo wrote:seven, you bent on proving their case for them?
I'm defending peacock.

If they win, they can make crow their national bird of tamil country if they like crow so much.

all those attributes you have listed are very poetic and they are only just that..

Solidarity and sharing are among the much required core values of the citizens of any country, by definition; these traits are integral to crows which they relentlessly exhibit all the time helping people understand their values. You may romanticize peacocks just because they are exotic, but then, that is inconsequential and irrelevant in its representation as a national symbol.

this birds argument is all just diversion; let us stick to the OP, focus on why do you shun away from addressing your issues with the content of the OP and the poster's objective in posting it?

by seven Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:40 pm

I don't understand I'm sorry. What does it mean that I am shunning away from addressing my issue?
Idk HA's objective. I wasn't responding to his objective. If you're asking why i wasn't, well bcz I'm not interested in his objective.
I didn't understand your question about me shunning away from addressing my issues.
I have an issue with crow being suggested as India's national bird and I voiced it.

Pls dumb down your question so I can understand. Then I can reply.

by garam_kuta Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:12 pm

seven wrote:I don't understand I'm sorry. What does it mean that I am shunning away from addressing my issue?
Idk HA's objective. I wasn't responding to his objective. If you're asking why i wasn't, well bcz I'm not interested in his objective.
I didn't understand your question about me shunning away from addressing my issues.
I have an issue with crow being suggested as India's national bird and I voiced it.

Pls dumb down your question so I can understand. Then I can reply.

In fact I apologize for dragging this on and on with you; trust me, in this forum, you are as exotic as the peacock- long live, my blessings!

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