The poll after Trump's "Muslim" remark......

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:.....If it were in India, the Sikular gang will jump up and down like monkeys returning their junk awards.....

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Fear-of-terrorism-lifts-Donald-Trump-to-new-high-in-poll/articleshow/50132477.cms

southindian wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:.....If it were in India, the Sikular gang will jump up and down like monkeys returning their junk awards.....

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Fear-of-terrorism-lifts-Donald-Trump-to-new-high-in-poll/articleshow/50132477.cms

and no one is even discussing "Intolerance in USA".

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:vp -- are you really so far gone in your hatred for Muslims that you feel compelled to write nonsense like this? do you really not recognize the threat that trump poses to every decent value that are at the core of the U.S. that you and i and every other immigrant has enjoyed? why do you think his own party members are starting to call him unhinged?

and in a related matter, do you not see the difference between an elected government and a presidential candidate?

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:vp -- are you really so far gone in your hatred for Muslims that you feel compelled to write nonsense like this? do you really not recognize the threat that trump poses to every decent value that are at the core of the U.S. that you and i and every other immigrant has enjoyed? why do you think his own party members are starting to call him unhinged?

and in a related matter, do you not see the difference between an elected government and a presidential candidate?

I was just comparing the reaction in the US with that in India. I suppose, according to you, based on the "intolerance" debate, India is much more enlightened than the US.

I don't support Trump. But look at what the poll shows! People are thinking about the terrorist attacks and relating them to the ideology behind. In my view, the Mani Shankar Aiyers of India are narcissistic jerks.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:vp -- are you really so far gone in your hatred for Muslims that you feel compelled to write nonsense like this? do you really not recognize the threat that trump poses to every decent value that are at the core of the U.S. that you and i and every other immigrant has enjoyed? why do you think his own party members are starting to call him unhinged?

and in a related matter, do you not see the difference between an elected government and a presidential candidate?

I was just comparing the reaction in the US with that in India. I suppose, according to you, based on the "intolerance" debate, India is much more enlightened than the US.

I don't support Trump. But look at what the poll shows! People are thinking about the terrorist attacks and relating them to the ideology behind. In my view, the Mani Shankar Aiyers of India are narcissistic jerks.

in many ways india is more enlightened than the US.  they don't always deal with it well, but india has dealt with diversity far longer than the US.  i don't think the people who are supporting trump are thinking much, but are simply reacting to a fear.  so how would this trump proposal work? just ask a guy entering or reentering the US if they are muslims, assume everyone is going to answer honestly, and then send those away who answer in the affirmative? forget about the bigotry. his political opponents should hammer him on the stupidity of his idea first. anyone who is willing to suggest such an idiotic scheme is unqualified to be president.  we can talk about bigotry later.  

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:vp -- are you really so far gone in your hatred for Muslims that you feel compelled to write nonsense like this? do you really not recognize the threat that trump poses to every decent value that are at the core of the U.S. that you and i and every other immigrant has enjoyed? why do you think his own party members are starting to call him unhinged?

and in a related matter, do you not see the difference between an elected government and a presidential candidate?

I was just comparing the reaction in the US with that in India. I suppose, according to you, based on the "intolerance" debate, India is much more enlightened than the US.

I don't support Trump. But look at what the poll shows! People are thinking about the terrorist attacks and relating them to the ideology behind. In my view, the Mani Shankar Aiyers of India are narcissistic jerks.

in many ways india is more enlightened than the US.  they don't always deal with it well, but india has dealt with diversity far longer than the US.  i don't think the people who are supporting trump are thinking much, but are simply reacting to a fear.  so how would this trump proposal work? just ask people entering or reentering the US if they are muslims, assume everyone is going to answer honestly, and then send those away who answer in the affirmative? forget about the bigotry. his political opponents should hammer him on the stupidity of his idea first. anyone who is willing to suggest such an idiotic scheme is unqualified to be president.  we can talk about bigotry later.

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:vp -- are you really so far gone in your hatred for Muslims that you feel compelled to write nonsense like this? do you really not recognize the threat that trump poses to every decent value that are at the core of the U.S. that you and i and every other immigrant has enjoyed? why do you think his own party members are starting to call him unhinged?

and in a related matter, do you not see the difference between an elected government and a presidential candidate?

I was just comparing the reaction in the US with that in India. I suppose, according to you, based on the "intolerance" debate, India is much more enlightened than the US.

I don't support Trump. But look at what the poll shows! People are thinking about the terrorist attacks and relating them to the ideology behind. In my view, the Mani Shankar Aiyers of India are narcissistic jerks.

in many ways india is more enlightened than the US.  they don't always deal with it well, but india has dealt with diversity far longer than the US.  i don't think the people who are supporting trump are thinking much, but are simply reacting to a fear.  so how would this trump proposal work? just ask people entering or reentering the US if they are muslims, assume everyone is going to answer honestly, and then send those away who answer in the affirmative? forget about the bigotry. his political opponents should hammer him on the stupidity of his idea first. anyone who is willing to suggest such an idiotic scheme is unqualified to be president.  we can talk about bigotry later.

What enlightened? People even foolishly believe that it is alright to call India a secular country while Indians officially continue to follow and live according to religious laws. As for India being able to deal with the diversity, that is only because the majority in India seems to kowtow to minorities on almost every issue, lest it be called "intolerant". Try implementing the UCC!

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:I like the late Chris Hitchens a lot VP. I'm sure if the big guy was alive today he'd think Trump is a demagogue and his followers morons.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:I like the late Chris Hitchens a lot VP. I'm sure if the big guy was alive today he'd think Trump is a demagogue and his followers morons.

He would say that. He would also say that the ISIS morons are barbaric. He won't leave cowardly intellectuals (who keep quiet on iSlamic terrorism) alone - he will tell them to fkoff.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:vp -- are you really so far gone in your hatred for Muslims that you feel compelled to write nonsense like this? do you really not recognize the threat that trump poses to every decent value that are at the core of the U.S. that you and i and every other immigrant has enjoyed? why do you think his own party members are starting to call him unhinged?

and in a related matter, do you not see the difference between an elected government and a presidential candidate?

I was just comparing the reaction in the US with that in India. I suppose, according to you, based on the "intolerance" debate, India is much more enlightened than the US.

I don't support Trump. But look at what the poll shows! People are thinking about the terrorist attacks and relating them to the ideology behind. In my view, the Mani Shankar Aiyers of India are narcissistic jerks.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:vp -- are you really so far gone in your hatred for Muslims that you feel compelled to write nonsense like this? do you really not recognize the threat that trump poses to every decent value that are at the core of the U.S. that you and i and every other immigrant has enjoyed? why do you think his own party members are starting to call him unhinged?

and in a related matter, do you not see the difference between an elected government and a presidential candidate?

I was just comparing the reaction in the US with that in India. I suppose, according to you, based on the "intolerance" debate, India is much more enlightened than the US.

I don't support Trump. But look at what the poll shows! People are thinking about the terrorist attacks and relating them to the ideology behind. In my view, the Mani Shankar Aiyers of India are narcissistic jerks.

Polls show that only chaddies a.k.a morons are supporting Trump.

truthbetold wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:vp -- are you really so far gone in your hatred for Muslims that you feel compelled to write nonsense like this? do you really not recognize the threat that trump poses to every decent value that are at the core of the U.S. that you and i and every other immigrant has enjoyed? why do you think his own party members are starting to call him unhinged?

and in a related matter, do you not see the difference between an elected government and a presidential candidate?

I was just comparing the reaction in the US with that in India. I suppose, according to you, based on the "intolerance" debate, India is much more enlightened than the US.

I don't support Trump. But look at what the poll shows! People are thinking about the terrorist attacks and relating them to the ideology behind. In my view, the Mani Shankar Aiyers of India are narcissistic jerks.

Polls show that only chaddies a.k.a morons are supporting Trump.

If you can all of a group (chaddis or trump's voters) as morons, what is wrong with another person characterizing muslims as a group terrorists? How is your stereotyping justified ?

confuzzled dude wrote:

truthbetold wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:vp -- are you really so far gone in your hatred for Muslims that you feel compelled to write nonsense like this? do you really not recognize the threat that trump poses to every decent value that are at the core of the U.S. that you and i and every other immigrant has enjoyed? why do you think his own party members are starting to call him unhinged?

and in a related matter, do you not see the difference between an elected government and a presidential candidate?

I was just comparing the reaction in the US with that in India. I suppose, according to you, based on the "intolerance" debate, India is much more enlightened than the US.

I don't support Trump. But look at what the poll shows! People are thinking about the terrorist attacks and relating them to the ideology behind. In my view, the Mani Shankar Aiyers of India are narcissistic jerks.

Polls show that only chaddies a.k.a morons are supporting Trump.

If you can all of a group (chaddis or trump's voters) as morons, what is wrong with another person characterizing muslims as a group terrorists? How is your stereotyping justified ?

Don't you think that the labels, liberals, conservatives, democrats, republicans are a kind of stereotyping as well?

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:.....If it were in India, the Sikular gang will jump up and down like monkeys returning their junk awards.....

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Fear-of-terrorism-lifts-Donald-Trump-to-new-high-in-poll/articleshow/50132477.cms

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:vp -- are you really so far gone in your hatred for Muslims that you feel compelled to write nonsense like this? do you really not recognize the threat that trump poses to every decent value that are at the core of the U.S. that you and i and every other immigrant has enjoyed? why do you think his own party members are starting to call him unhinged?

and in a related matter, do you not see the difference between an elected government and a presidential candidate?

I was just comparing the reaction in the US with that in India. I suppose, according to you, based on the "intolerance" debate, India is much more enlightened than the US.

I don't support Trump. But look at what the poll shows! People are thinking about the terrorist attacks and relating them to the ideology behind. In my view, the Mani Shankar Aiyers of India are narcissistic jerks.

Polls show that only chaddies a.k.a morons are supporting Trump.

Kris wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:.....If it were in India, the Sikular gang will jump up and down like monkeys returning their junk awards.....

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Fear-of-terrorism-lifts-Donald-Trump-to-new-high-in-poll/articleshow/50132477.cms

>>>Trump's plan is not actionable logistically or legally. If he had modified that to restrictions on people from troubled areas (Syria, for instance) without being vetted out, that could be well in line with others in the game ( I am guessing, I am not keeping up on this). This is his ploy to gain a big lead and it seems to be deliberate.

truthbetold wrote:

Kris wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:.....If it were in India, the Sikular gang will jump up and down like monkeys returning their junk awards.....

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Fear-of-terrorism-lifts-Donald-Trump-to-new-high-in-poll/articleshow/50132477.cms

>>>Trump's plan is not actionable logistically or legally. If he had modified that to restrictions on people from troubled areas (Syria, for instance) without being vetted out, that could be well in line with others in the game ( I am guessing, I am not keeping up on this). This is his ploy to gain a big lead and it seems to be deliberate.

Kris,

Congress passed some visa restrictions similar to what you suggested.

Trump did not win his following by appealing to voter's logic and reason.  His strength is the fear in people's mind.

Kris wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:vp -- are you really so far gone in your hatred for Muslims that you feel compelled to write nonsense like this? do you really not recognize the threat that trump poses to every decent value that are at the core of the U.S. that you and i and every other immigrant has enjoyed? why do you think his own party members are starting to call him unhinged?

and in a related matter, do you not see the difference between an elected government and a presidential candidate?

I was just comparing the reaction in the US with that in India. I suppose, according to you, based on the "intolerance" debate, India is much more enlightened than the US.

I don't support Trump. But look at what the poll shows! People are thinking about the terrorist attacks and relating them to the ideology behind. In my view, the Mani Shankar Aiyers of India are narcissistic jerks.

Polls show that only chaddies a.k.a morons are supporting Trump.

>>>Chaddies are part of the american populace now voting in polls on presidential candidates?

Kris wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:.....If it were in India, the Sikular gang will jump up and down like monkeys returning their junk awards.....

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Fear-of-terrorism-lifts-Donald-Trump-to-new-high-in-poll/articleshow/50132477.cms

>>>Trump's plan is not actionable logistically or legally. If he had modified that to restrictions on people from troubled areas (Syria, for instance) without being vetted out, that could be well in line with others in the game ( I am guessing, I am not keeping up on this). This is his ploy to gain a big lead and it seems to be deliberate.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Kris wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:.....If it were in India, the Sikular gang will jump up and down like monkeys returning their junk awards.....

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Fear-of-terrorism-lifts-Donald-Trump-to-new-high-in-poll/articleshow/50132477.cms

>>>Trump's plan is not actionable logistically or legally. If he had modified that to restrictions on people from troubled areas (Syria, for instance) without being vetted out, that could be well in line with others in the game ( I am guessing, I am not keeping up on this). This is his ploy to gain a big lead and it seems to be deliberate.

Yeah. However, I don't think Trump is there for the long haul.

truthbetold wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

truthbetold wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

I was just comparing the reaction in the US with that in India. I suppose, according to you, based on the "intolerance" debate, India is much more enlightened than the US.

I don't support Trump. But look at what the poll shows! People are thinking about the terrorist attacks and relating them to the ideology behind. In my view, the Mani Shankar Aiyers of India are narcissistic jerks.

Polls show that only chaddies a.k.a morons are supporting Trump.

If you can all of a group (chaddis or trump's voters) as morons, what is wrong with another person characterizing muslims as a group terrorists? How is your stereotyping justified ?

Don't you think that the labels, liberals, conservatives, democrats, republicans are a kind of stereotyping as well?

Liberals, ... , republicans are names of people holding a certain type of political views.  Moron means a stupid person.  Any logical person can see the difference in the usage word liberal and moron.  

Try again and dig yourself out of this  ....... mess.

confuzzled dude wrote:

truthbetold wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

truthbetold wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:
Polls show that only chaddies a.k.a morons are supporting Trump.

If you can all of a group (chaddis or trump's voters) as morons, what is wrong with another person characterizing muslims as a group terrorists? How is your stereotyping justified ?

Don't you think that the labels, liberals, conservatives, democrats, republicans are a kind of stereotyping as well?

Liberals, ... , republicans are names of people holding a certain type of political views.  Moron means a stupid person.  Any logical person can see the difference in the usage word liberal and moron.  

Try again and dig yourself out of this  ....... mess.

Most liberals call republicans morons for their views on abortion, what does that tell you?

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:vp -- are you really so far gone in your hatred for Muslims that you feel compelled to write nonsense like this? do you really not recognize the threat that trump poses to every decent value that are at the core of the U.S. that you and i and every other immigrant has enjoyed? why do you think his own party members are starting to call him unhinged?

and in a related matter, do you not see the difference between an elected government and a presidential candidate?

I was just comparing the reaction in the US with that in India. I suppose, according to you, based on the "intolerance" debate, India is much more enlightened than the US.

I don't support Trump. But look at what the poll shows! People are thinking about the terrorist attacks and relating them to the ideology behind. In my view, the Mani Shankar Aiyers of India are narcissistic jerks.

in many ways india is more enlightened than the US.  they don't always deal with it well, but india has dealt with diversity far longer than the US.  i don't think the people who are supporting trump are thinking much, but are simply reacting to a fear.  so how would this trump proposal work? just ask people entering or reentering the US if they are muslims, assume everyone is going to answer honestly, and then send those away who answer in the affirmative? forget about the bigotry. his political opponents should hammer him on the stupidity of his idea first. anyone who is willing to suggest such an idiotic scheme is unqualified to be president.  we can talk about bigotry later.

What enlightened? People even foolishly believe that it is alright to call India a secular country while Indians officially continue to follow and live according to religious laws. As for India being able to deal with the diversity, that is only because the majority in India seems to kowtow to minorities on almost every issue, lest it be called "intolerant". Try implementing the UCC!

Yeah. If a Hindu doesn't self-deprecate, he becomes an "intolerant" Chaddi. Those who follow Semitic religions talk about "secularism" (for political gain) even though the religions they practice are fundamentally opposed to Secularism. Self-deprecating Hindu "intellectuals" join the cunning oxymoron crowd and do everything possible to obstruct Secular ideas (like UCC). The Christopher Hitchens of the world become Chaddis in the minds of self-deprecating Indian Sikular "intellectuals".

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
It is good that Trump is a Billionaiire businessman bcz he will go back to making his money after the elections. He is the Le Pen of US.  There is a SIGNIFICANT % of US population that is concerned with gun ownership, Jesus, Illegals and Abortion. This large population (mostly blue collar) is ignored by the Republicans after the primaries and Democrats dont care. This is a "lost" tribe that looks to a shining armor at every election. Perot, Palin and Trump are the result. These politicians bring it into the open the unsaid and politically incorrect statements about issues that are strongly felt by a large population that are most directly affected.

Just like the Illegal issue and abortion issue keep cropping up frequently so will the Muslim issue.  It is sown and it is not going away ever from US politics. It is good that Trump brought it out bcz it will put the Kullas on the notice and on watch thus wont openly scream "for their rights"and Sharia.  After Trump, someone else will pick up on this issue and keep it alive. This is what the BJP win and Modi did to the Indian Muslims - who now soley depend on Sonia Italian Mata to be their spokesman. This should have been done way back in 1950s and Muslims in India would have been much quieter.

So thank Trump for putting a lid on the Kullas and Mullahs.  

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:btw how will trump's plan be implemented? I am glad that our future president has such faith in the truthfulness of jihadis.