Rohith Vemula was targeted for aspiring to a progressive India--an idea that is anathema for Hindutva forces
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Rohith Vemula was targeted for aspiring to a progressive India--an idea that is anathema for Hindutva forces
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Thanjai Nalankilli- Posts : 220
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Re: Rohith Vemula was targeted for aspiring to a progressive India--an idea that is anathema for Hindutva forces
Has anyone looked into the possibility that some of these students are jumping into the subjects and programs because of easy entry based on their caste status (as dalits, SC/ST and OBC), on their own and / or at the insistence of their parents / relatives, but later find that it is not their cup of tea, thus leaving them depressed and suicidal?
Re: Rohith Vemula was targeted for aspiring to a progressive India--an idea that is anathema for Hindutva forces
An easier way to put this would be - would you rather be treated by a doctor who became a doctor by merit and hard work or one who got through medical school through the quota system?Seva Lamberdar wrote:Has anyone looked into the possibility that some of these students are jumping into the subjects and programs because of easy entry based on their caste status (as dalits, SC/ST and OBC), on their own and / or at the insistence of their parents / relatives, but later find that it is not their cup of tea, thus leaving them depressed and suicidal?
Hellsangel- Posts : 14721
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Re: Rohith Vemula was targeted for aspiring to a progressive India--an idea that is anathema for Hindutva forces
Good question to Rashmun ("T.N.").Hellsangel wrote:An easier way to put this would be - would you rather be treated by a doctor who became a doctor by merit and hard work or one who got through medical school through the quota system?Seva Lamberdar wrote:Has anyone looked into the possibility that some of these students are jumping into the subjects and programs because of easy entry based on their caste status (as dalits, SC/ST and OBC), on their own and / or at the insistence of their parents / relatives, but later find that it is not their cup of tea, thus leaving them depressed and suicidal?
Re: Rohith Vemula was targeted for aspiring to a progressive India--an idea that is anathema for Hindutva forces
Seva Lamberdar wrote:Good question to Rashmun ("T.N.").Hellsangel wrote:An easier way to put this would be - would you rather be treated by a doctor who became a doctor by merit and hard work or one who got through medical school through the quota system?Seva Lamberdar wrote:Has anyone looked into the possibility that some of these students are jumping into the subjects and programs because of easy entry based on their caste status (as dalits, SC/ST and OBC), on their own and / or at the insistence of their parents / relatives, but later find that it is not their cup of tea, thus leaving them depressed and suicidal?
I am opposed to caste based reservations myself.
Thanjai Nalankilli- Posts : 220
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Re: Rohith Vemula was targeted for aspiring to a progressive India--an idea that is anathema for Hindutva forces
I thought you had anathema, and not just the opposition?Thanjai Nalankilli wrote:Seva Lamberdar wrote:Good question to Rashmun ("T.N.").Hellsangel wrote:An easier way to put this would be - would you rather be treated by a doctor who became a doctor by merit and hard work or one who got through medical school through the quota system?Seva Lamberdar wrote:Has anyone looked into the possibility that some of these students are jumping into the subjects and programs because of easy entry based on their caste status (as dalits, SC/ST and OBC), on their own and / or at the insistence of their parents / relatives, but later find that it is not their cup of tea, thus leaving them depressed and suicidal?
I am opposed to caste based reservations myself.
Re: Rohith Vemula was targeted for aspiring to a progressive India--an idea that is anathema for Hindutva forces
Vernacular Media has been reporting on this since the day of the incident. Conveniently the 'Progressive Left' Media had ignored it so far. Hindu also published this only in their Hyderabad edition not on the main pages.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Vijayawada/rohiths-father-seeks-judicial-probe-into-his-death/article8155152.ece
Not only his father even his grandmother had on video recording confessed that they belong to Vaddera community. This settles that Rohit is not a Dalit but belongs to BC (or OBC) category. And the ABVP candidate who was beaten by Rohit and friends and the MP Dattatreya who wanted action all belong to BC. So there is not high-caste low-caste fight here. Just of political opportunism on the lines of 'award wapsi'.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Vijayawada/rohiths-father-seeks-judicial-probe-into-his-death/article8155152.ece
Not only his father even his grandmother had on video recording confessed that they belong to Vaddera community. This settles that Rohit is not a Dalit but belongs to BC (or OBC) category. And the ABVP candidate who was beaten by Rohit and friends and the MP Dattatreya who wanted action all belong to BC. So there is not high-caste low-caste fight here. Just of political opportunism on the lines of 'award wapsi'.
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Re: Rohith Vemula was targeted for aspiring to a progressive India--an idea that is anathema for Hindutva forces
smArtha wrote:Vernacular Media has been reporting on this since the day of the incident. Conveniently the 'Progressive Left' Media had ignored it so far. Hindu also published this only in their Hyderabad edition not on the main pages.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Vijayawada/rohiths-father-seeks-judicial-probe-into-his-death/article8155152.ece
Not only his father even his grandmother had on video recording confessed that they belong to Vaddera community. This settles that Rohit is not a Dalit but belongs to BC (or OBC) category. And the ABVP candidate who was beaten by Rohit and friends and the MP Dattatreya who wanted action all belong to BC. So there is not high-caste low-caste fight here. Just of political opportunism on the lines of 'award wapsi'.
His mother was very definitely a dalit. His grandmother was not a dalit because she was not his biological grandmother, she had adopted his mother. His adoptive grandmother would treat his mother like a servant:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/static/rohith-vemula-an-unfinished-portrait/index.html
Thanjai Nalankilli- Posts : 220
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Re: Rohith Vemula was targeted for aspiring to a progressive India--an idea that is anathema for Hindutva forces
Seva Lamberdar wrote:I thought you had anathema, and not just the opposition?Thanjai Nalankilli wrote:Seva Lamberdar wrote:Good question to Rashmun ("T.N.").Hellsangel wrote:An easier way to put this would be - would you rather be treated by a doctor who became a doctor by merit and hard work or one who got through medical school through the quota system?Seva Lamberdar wrote:Has anyone looked into the possibility that some of these students are jumping into the subjects and programs because of easy entry based on their caste status (as dalits, SC/ST and OBC), on their own and / or at the insistence of their parents / relatives, but later find that it is not their cup of tea, thus leaving them depressed and suicidal?
I am opposed to caste based reservations myself.
both opposition and anathema.
Thanjai Nalankilli- Posts : 220
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Re: Rohith Vemula was targeted for aspiring to a progressive India--an idea that is anathema for Hindutva forces
His mother was very definitely a dalit. His grandmother was not a dalit because she was not his biological grandmother, she had adopted his mother. His adoptive grandmother would treat his mother like a servant:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/static/rohith-vemula-an-unfinished-portrait/index.html
Don't sit in Bihar or talk to Diggy Raja and get all 'factual' news. I have connections and sources in this very University. His Mom had claimed in an affidavit filed for her second son that they are born 'vaddera' caste. Even these filings are in public domain now. Award wapsi morphed this issue into a Dalit discrimination one.
smArtha- Posts : 1229
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Re: Rohith Vemula was targeted for aspiring to a progressive India--an idea that is anathema for Hindutva forces
smArtha wrote:
His mother was very definitely a dalit. His grandmother was not a dalit because she was not his biological grandmother, she had adopted his mother. His adoptive grandmother would treat his mother like a servant:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/static/rohith-vemula-an-unfinished-portrait/index.html
Don't sit in Bihar or talk to Diggy Raja and get all 'factual' news. I have connections and sources in this very University. His Mom had claimed in an affidavit filed for her second son that they are born 'vaddera' caste. Even these filings are in public domain now. Award wapsi morphed this issue into a Dalit discrimination one.
eat this: https://twitter.com/umasudhir/status/689350305134186496
Thanjai Nalankilli- Posts : 220
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Re: Rohith Vemula was targeted for aspiring to a progressive India--an idea that is anathema for Hindutva forces
smArtha wrote:
His mother was very definitely a dalit. His grandmother was not a dalit because she was not his biological grandmother, she had adopted his mother. His adoptive grandmother would treat his mother like a servant:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/static/rohith-vemula-an-unfinished-portrait/index.html
Don't sit in Bihar or talk to Diggy Raja and get all 'factual' news. I have connections and sources in this very University. His Mom had claimed in an affidavit filed for her second son that they are born 'vaddera' caste. Even these filings are in public domain now. Award wapsi morphed this issue into a Dalit discrimination one.
the gay artist formerly known as douchemun lives in houston, seeking women there (as in SWIH) and is originally from oopi. he does talk to doggy via dreams and follows him on twitter
Propagandhi711- Posts : 6941
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Re: Rohith Vemula was targeted for aspiring to a progressive India--an idea that is anathema for Hindutva forces
Propagandhi711 wrote:smArtha wrote:
His mother was very definitely a dalit. His grandmother was not a dalit because she was not his biological grandmother, she had adopted his mother. His adoptive grandmother would treat his mother like a servant:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/static/rohith-vemula-an-unfinished-portrait/index.html
Don't sit in Bihar or talk to Diggy Raja and get all 'factual' news. I have connections and sources in this very University. His Mom had claimed in an affidavit filed for her second son that they are born 'vaddera' caste. Even these filings are in public domain now. Award wapsi morphed this issue into a Dalit discrimination one.
the gay artist formerly known as douchemun lives in houston, seeking women there (as in SWIH) and is originally from oopi. he does talk to doggy via dreams and follows him on twitter
You are angry. You are upset.
Thanjai Nalankilli- Posts : 220
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Re: Rohith Vemula was targeted for aspiring to a progressive India--an idea that is anathema for Hindutva forces
What is your theory about what has really happened?smArtha wrote:
His mother was very definitely a dalit. His grandmother was not a dalit because she was not his biological grandmother, she had adopted his mother. His adoptive grandmother would treat his mother like a servant:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/static/rohith-vemula-an-unfinished-portrait/index.html
Don't sit in Bihar or talk to Diggy Raja and get all 'factual' news. I have connections and sources in this very University. His Mom had claimed in an affidavit filed for her second son that they are born 'vaddera' caste. Even these filings are in public domain now. Award wapsi morphed this issue into a Dalit discrimination one.
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https://twitter.com/pandurangpai40/status/689685624748675077
Hellsangel- Posts : 14721
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SUloCHana wrote:
What is your theory about what has really happened?
The clue is in the suicide note and further reinforced by lines that were struck off. He seems to be generally frustrated - life in general - his birth, lofty dreams to influence or change 'something' in the system and hard realities.
The lines that were struck off read: “ASA, SFI, anything and everything exist for their own sake. Seldom the interest of a person and this organisation match. To get power, to become famous or to be important in between boundaries and to think we are up to changing the system. Very often we overestimate the acts and find solace in traits. Of course I must give my credit to both groups for making, introducing me to wonderful literature and people.” - See more at: http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/the-11-lines-rohith-vemula-struck-off-suicide-note/#sthash.0tI1DqL5.dpuf
smArtha- Posts : 1229
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Thanjai Nalankilli wrote:
eat this: https://twitter.com/umasudhir/status/689350305134186496
Sorry I cannot access twitter from this machine. Also, I have no active twitter account now. You need to put the message here.
smArtha- Posts : 1229
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Propagandhi711 wrote:
the gay artist formerly known as douchemun lives in houston, seeking women there (as in SWIH) and is originally from oopi. he does talk to doggy via dreams and follows him on twitter
Yes Rashmun is from UP. Forgot that bit of info. What is SWIH?
smArtha- Posts : 1229
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Damn lefties!
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