Why the great Mughal Emperor Akbar haunts Hindutva

by Guest Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:52 pm

A lot of Indians celebrate Hindu festivals for similar reasons, which increasingly find Muslims in Pakistan observing Hindu customs. They go for the cultural and aesthetic appeal, and not always for the belief associated with them.

I know Pakistani women who ask their husbands when they visit India to fetch them sindoor, the vermillion mark worn by married Hindu women in the parting of the hair. Partly this could be the influence of Hindi movies. There are Pakistani women who also want their husbands to give them the mangalsutra, a special necklace that symbolises matrimony for Hindu women. Quite a number of my contemporaries don’t go to these celebrations any longer, partly because Hindutva has hijacked the festivals....

There has been a traditional affinity, even bonding, between Hindu and Muslim extremists of the subcontinent. They have both mistrusted the liberals within their respective folds. It was natural, therefore, for Hindutva in India to emulate its narrow-minded Muslim counterparts in Pakistan to jointly target the genial Emperor Akbar, otherwise considered a symbol of enlightenment and religious tolerance....

Qasemi sahib read out a lovely story from his Persian papers about Emperor Akbar. The ruler had ordered the translation of the Sanskrit epic Mahabharat into Persian. His close associates found Abdul Qadir Badayuni appropriate for the job. Highly competent in his work, Badayuni was a narrow-minded Muslim. Akbar knew of this tendency, and was wary of him.

When the first translation of Mahabharat, translated mostly as Razm Nama — or chronicle of wars — came before him, Akbar wondered why it carried references to heaven and hell for the righteous and evil-doers in the epic. As a young prince he had learnt of the Hindu faith in transmigration of souls, but nothing of hell and heaven. He reported the matter to the Fazl-Faizi duo, who collared Badayuni.

For all his puritanism, Badayuni writes how he called the Brahmin priests before the emperor who advised Akbar that the concept of hell and heaven did in fact exist in Hindu philosophy. That’s how Akbar the ruler-cum-editor let his second edition of Mahabharat be published. He got it distributed to the elite to make them understand and embrace the great culture they were privileged to savour, says Prof Qasemi.

Meanwhile, by not celebrating Dussehra or Diwali I have saved time to start reading the Hindi translation in three volumes of the epic Ramayan. To make it more intractable for the Hindutva simpletons, a Hindu scribe named Sumer Chand wrote it in Persian. To make it even more perverse for Hindtuva, two Muslim scholars at Rampur’s famed Raza Library translated Ramayan into chaste Hindi from its original Persian. Votaries of Hindutva can eat their hearts out.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1137764

by Seva Lamberdar Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:32 pm

"Muslims in Pakistan, Bangladesh are essentially Hindus: Pakistani scholar" ---
http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/muslims-in-pakistan-bangladesh-are-essentially-hindus-pakistani-scholar_1804544.html

by Guest Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:34 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:"Muslims in Pakistan, Bangladesh are essentially Hindus: Pakistani scholar" ---
http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/muslims-in-pakistan-bangladesh-are-essentially-hindus-pakistani-scholar_1804544.html

culturally we are one people. With the diminishing role and importance of religion it is likely that India, Pakistan and Bangaldesh will re-unite and become one nation.

by Seva Lamberdar Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:44 pm

Barmy Fotheringay-Phipps wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:"Muslims in Pakistan, Bangladesh are essentially Hindus: Pakistani scholar" ---
http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/muslims-in-pakistan-bangladesh-are-essentially-hindus-pakistani-scholar_1804544.html

culturally we are one people. With the diminishing role and importance of religion it is likely that India, Pakistan and Bangaldesh will re-unite and become one nation.

Btw, she knows what she is talking about even according to the genetic consideration, indicated below.

" ... a handful of people (bandits and invaders etc.) supposedly arriving in India from abroad on a number of occasions long ago, taking over the country, marrying or impregnating many local women and producing numerous offspring would not make majority of present Indians having foreign roots. Most of the sons and daughters born to the original foreign invaders and settlers with Indian mates would have half Indian blood and half foreign blood. When these children of foreigners, carrying half Indian and half foreign blood (genetic markers), would choose and marry mates mainly from the vast indigenous Indian population, they would produce children who would have only one-fourth foreigner blood and three-fourth Indian blood (genetic markers).

"This process of marrying repeatedly over the generations into the local / indigenous population in India would ultimately lead to the children (the present day Indians basically) whose blood and genetic markers would be mostly or entirely (in case they never had the foreign input) indigenous (similar to the existing in India prior to the arrival of foreigners long ago) and have very little or nothing in common with the original foreign blood and genetic markers." ... https://such.forumotion.com/t19332-genetic-testing-issues-in-the-study-of-ancient-population-migrations-in-india-includes-info-about-the-out-of-africa-theory

by Guest Sun Mar 06, 2016 4:32 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Barmy Fotheringay-Phipps wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:"Muslims in Pakistan, Bangladesh are essentially Hindus: Pakistani scholar" ---
http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/muslims-in-pakistan-bangladesh-are-essentially-hindus-pakistani-scholar_1804544.html

culturally we are one people. With the diminishing role and importance of religion it is likely that India, Pakistan and Bangaldesh will re-unite and become one nation.
Btw, she knows what she is talking about even according to the genetic consideration, indicated below.

" ... a handful of people (bandits and invaders etc.) supposedly arriving in India from abroad on a number of occasions long ago, taking over the country, marrying or impregnating many local women and producing numerous offspring would not make majority of present Indians having foreign roots. Most of the sons and daughters born to the original foreign invaders and settlers with Indian mates would have half Indian blood and half foreign blood. When these children of foreigners, carrying half Indian and half foreign blood (genetic markers), would choose and marry mates mainly from the vast indigenous Indian population, they would produce children who would have only one-fourth foreigner blood and three-fourth Indian blood (genetic markers).

"This process of marrying repeatedly over the generations into the local / indigenous population in India would ultimately lead to the children (the present day Indians basically) whose blood and genetic markers would be mostly or entirely (in case they never had the foreign input) indigenous (similar to the existing in India prior to the arrival of foreigners long ago) and have very little or nothing in common with the original foreign blood and genetic markers." ... https://such.forumotion.com/t19332-genetic-testing-issues-in-the-study-of-ancient-population-migrations-in-india-includes-info-about-the-out-of-africa-theory

Most hindus who converted from hinduism to another religion did so voluntarily as a means to attain social emancipation. The proof for this is that the vast majority of religious conversions were of low caste hindus who converted to another religion.

by garam_kuta Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:49 pm

Barmy Fotheringay-Phipps wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Barmy Fotheringay-Phipps wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:"Muslims in Pakistan, Bangladesh are essentially Hindus: Pakistani scholar" ---
http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/muslims-in-pakistan-bangladesh-are-essentially-hindus-pakistani-scholar_1804544.html

culturally we are one people. With the diminishing role and importance of religion it is likely that India, Pakistan and Bangaldesh will re-unite and become one nation.
Btw, she knows what she is talking about even according to the genetic consideration, indicated below.

" ... a handful of people (bandits and invaders etc.) supposedly arriving in India from abroad on a number of occasions long ago, taking over the country, marrying or impregnating many local women and producing numerous offspring would not make majority of present Indians having foreign roots. Most of the sons and daughters born to the original foreign invaders and settlers with Indian mates would have half Indian blood and half foreign blood. When these children of foreigners, carrying half Indian and half foreign blood (genetic markers), would choose and marry mates mainly from the vast indigenous Indian population, they would produce children who would have only one-fourth foreigner blood and three-fourth Indian blood (genetic markers).

"This process of marrying repeatedly over the generations into the local / indigenous population in India would ultimately lead to the children (the present day Indians basically) whose blood and genetic markers would be mostly or entirely (in case they never had the foreign input) indigenous (similar to the existing in India prior to the arrival of foreigners long ago) and have very little or nothing in common with the original foreign blood and genetic markers." ... https://such.forumotion.com/t19332-genetic-testing-issues-in-the-study-of-ancient-population-migrations-in-india-includes-info-about-the-out-of-africa-theory

Most hindus who converted from hinduism to another religion did so voluntarily as a means to attain social emancipation. The proof for this is that the vast majority of religious conversions were mostly of a certain caste of *~~of low caste~~ hindus who converted to another religion.

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