Sindu beats world's No.2 to reach badminton semis

truthbetold wrote:In a closely fought game, tall Indian pulled off a major upset by defeating world no. 2 badminton player.  She needs to win one more to ensure at least a silver.

swapna wrote:is sindhu's caashTu the same as yours? her sub-caashTu? her gothram?

swapna wrote:is sindhu's caashTu the same as yours? her sub-caashTu? her gothram?

silvermani wrote:

swapna wrote:is sindhu's caashTu the same as yours? her sub-caashTu? her gothram?

Has it escaped your attention that sindhu is actually present day sindh in pakistan?

** maNi, I would never think that a badminton player is "actually" a place in pakistan. it takes your kind of genius to teach an entire geographical area of pakistan to play world-class badminton, dress it in female clothes, and get it to represent india in the olympics.

** all of sindh - arid land, rivers, scrub vegetation and all - disguised as a woman playing badminton! imagine that!
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Now, why would a southndian be named as sindhu? Did her forefathers migrate from there?

** I wouldn't know. ask sindhu's parents, or sindhu herself; my guess: many telegas seem to believe that it's more prestigious to be one of the northpeepals than themselves. I think it's a matter of (an acute shortage of) self-respect.

** tragically, the northpeepals constantly kick the telegapeepals in the teeth, despite the latter's sycophancy. I think these telegas are flattered - flattened? - by that kind of attention.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Sindhu is also a form of poetry in Tamil, e.g. kavadi sindhu. I'd have no problem naming a girl child sindhu. There's a Carnatic raga called sindhu bhairavi. There's nothing northindian about it. The river in Punjab and the province surrounding it is Sindh not Sindhu.

swapna wrote:

silvermani wrote:

swapna wrote:is sindhu's caashTu the same as yours? her sub-caashTu? her gothram?

Has it escaped your attention that sindhu is actually present day sindh in pakistan?

** maNi, I would never think that a badminton player is "actually" a place in pakistan. it takes your kind of genius to teach an entire geographical area of pakistan to play world-class badminton, dress it in female clothes, and get it to represent india in the olympics.

** all of sindh - arid land, rivers, scrub vegetation and all - disguised as a woman playing badminton! imagine that!
----
Now, why would a southndian be named as sindhu? Did her forefathers migrate from there?

** I wouldn't know. ask sindhu's parents, or sindhu herself; my guess: many telegas seem to believe that it's more prestigious to be one of the northpeepals than themselves. I think it's a matter of (an acute shortage of) self-respect.

** tragically, the northpeepals constantly kick the telegapeepals in the teeth, despite the latter's sycophancy. I think these telegas are flattered - flattened? - by that kind of attention.

** see my.comments above.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Sindhu is also a form of poetry in Tamil, e.g. kavadi sindhu. I'd have no problem naming a girl child sindhu. There's a Carnatic raga called sindhu bhairavi. There's nothing northindian about it. The river in Punjab and the province surrounding it is Sindh not Sindhu.

swapna wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Sindhu is also a form of poetry in Tamil, e.g. kavadi sindhu. I'd have no problem naming a girl child sindhu. There's a Carnatic raga called sindhu bhairavi. There's nothing northindian about it. The river in Punjab and the province surrounding it is Sindh not Sindhu.

except for the last sentence, your post is irrelevant. this thread is about an indian badminton player called sindhu, not about music.

I had questioned:

1. tbt's spelling of the badminton player's name as "sindu", while her name is clearly "sindhu" (note the 'h').

2. maNi's claim, "sindhu is actually present-day sindh in pakistan." (it is not; the first is a river, esp if preceded by a "the," a female's name, or other things associated with the region, while the latter is a specific geographic region.)

you confused this thread in your eagerness to talk about music, but in your last sentence, confirmed what I had said about sindh.

I suspect that the word "sindhu" is an adjective, or is adjective-like, meaning, "of sindh," and similar to descriptions like "himalayan" and "hellenic."

while the music you refer to may be southern indian, the "sindhu" that's in its name ("sindhu bhairavi?") almost surely refers to the sindh region of pakistan, which is northindian. to my knowledge, there is only one sindh. I still wonder why it's called "sindhu bhairavi."

Rashmun wrote:

swapna wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Sindhu is also a form of poetry in Tamil, e.g. kavadi sindhu. I'd have no problem naming a girl child sindhu. There's a Carnatic raga called sindhu bhairavi. There's nothing northindian about it. The river in Punjab and the province surrounding it is Sindh not Sindhu.

except for the last sentence, your post is irrelevant. this thread is about an indian badminton player called sindhu, not about music.

I had questioned:

1. tbt's spelling of the badminton player's name as "sindu", while her name is clearly "sindhu" (note the 'h').

2. maNi's claim, "sindhu is actually present-day sindh in pakistan." (it is not; the first is a river, esp if preceded by a "the," a female's name, or other things associated with the region, while the latter is a specific geographic region.)

you confused this thread in your eagerness to talk about music, but in your last sentence, confirmed what I had said about sindh.

I suspect that the word "sindhu" is an adjective, or is adjective-like, meaning, "of sindh," and similar to descriptions like "himalayan" and "hellenic."

while the music you refer to may be southern indian, the "sindhu" that's in its name ("sindhu bhairavi?") almost surely refers to the sindh region of pakistan, which is northindian. to my knowledge, there is only one sindh. I still wonder why it's called "sindhu bhairavi."

Sindhu Bhairavi is also a raga in Hindustani classical. The name is probably meant to convey and evoke the majesty and beauty of the Sindhu (Indus) river.

Sindhu Bhairavi is said to have it’s origin from Hindustani, and is a morning Raga according to the North Indian Musical tradition . The raaga Sindhubhairavi evokes very happy and pleasant emotions. This raga is one of its kind were all the 16 swaras in Carnatic system are used. It is a colourful raga and soothes the nervous system. It is said that the Raga can cure Headache, back pain and chest pain and can give freshness to the mind.

https://anuradhamahesh.wordpress.com/carnatic-raga-appreciation/3-sindhubhairavi-a-blend-of-folk-and-classical-touch/

Propagandhi711 wrote:douchemun is just the heinous1's concubine. he likes to wear frilly lehangas and feed the constipated1 prune juice in pimp chalise ....

garam_kuta wrote:folks - we have quite a few trump wannabe here:
while rashmun has adequately confessed that his other favorite is sapna, who is a certified casteist that spews hatred on brahmins, the same rashmun posts this today

Rashmun wrote:the website given in my earlier post, from which the Bhagwan article is extracted, has a picture of Periyar. i would like to clarify that i am opposed to Periyar since i believe Periyar preached (among other things) caste hatred which needs to be opposed...

indeed a potential material for medical research, i tell ya!

silvermani wrote:

swapna wrote:

silvermani wrote:

swapna wrote:is sindhu's caashTu the same as yours? her sub-caashTu? her gothram?

Has it escaped your attention that sindhu is actually present day sindh in pakistan?

** maNi, I would never think that a badminton player is "actually" a place in pakistan. it takes your kind of genius to teach an entire geographical area of pakistan to play world-class badminton, dress it in female clothes, and get it to represent india in the olympics.

** all of sindh - arid land, rivers, scrub vegetation and all - disguised as a woman playing badminton! imagine that!
----
Now, why would a southndian be named as sindhu? Did her forefathers migrate from there?

** I wouldn't know. ask sindhu's parents, or sindhu herself; my guess: many telegas seem to believe that it's more prestigious to be one of the northpeepals than themselves. I think it's a matter of (an acute shortage of) self-respect.

** tragically, the northpeepals constantly kick the telegapeepals in the teeth, despite the latter's sycophancy. I think these telegas are flattered - flattened? - by that kind of attention.

** see my.comments above.

Bringing up the Sindh-Pak connection is as meaningless as your questioning about her cashtu and the OP's cashtu.

swapna wrote:

truthbetold wrote:In a closely fought game, tall Indian pulled off a major upset by defeating world no. 2 badminton player.  She needs to win one more to ensure at least a silver.

100 times:


the tall indian
the tall indian

the tall indian
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MaxEntropy_Man wrote:I am reasonably certain that the Sindhu in Sindhu Bhairavi is of Tamil provenance. The ancient paNNs of the Tamils are closely related to some major Carnatic scales. Sindhu is one type of paNN. Some musically inclined families have a tradition of naming their girl children after Carnatic ragas.

swapna wrote:I suspect that the word "sindhu" is an adjective, or is adjective-like, meaning, "of sindh," and similar to descriptions like "himalayan" and "hellenic."

swapna wrote:
while the music you refer to may be southern indian, the "sindhu" that's in its name ("sindhu bhairavi?") almost surely refers to the sindh region of pakistan, which is northindian. to my knowledge, there is only one sindh. I still wonder why it's called "sindhu bhairavi."

Idéfix wrote:

swapna wrote:I suspect that the word "sindhu" is an adjective, or is adjective-like, meaning, "of sindh," and similar to descriptions like "himalayan" and "hellenic."

That is quite unlikely. Sindhu is the name of the river that flows from the Himalayas to the Arabian Sea, and the word sindhu is used as a synonym for the word "river" in several Indian languages including Telugu. The word Sindh is a result of the typical northindian practice of dropping the last vowels in some Sanskrit words.

swapna wrote:
while the music you refer to may be southern indian, the "sindhu" that's in its name ("sindhu bhairavi?") almost surely refers to the sindh region of pakistan, which is northindian. to my knowledge, there is only one sindh. I still wonder why it's called "sindhu bhairavi."

It is far more likely that the name of the raga refers to the name of the river, or any generic river, than to the region where that river forms a delta.

garam_kuta wrote:

Idéfix wrote:

swapna wrote:I suspect that the word "sindhu" is an adjective, or is adjective-like, meaning, "of sindh," and similar to descriptions like "himalayan" and "hellenic."

That is quite unlikely. Sindhu is the name of the river that flows from the Himalayas to the Arabian Sea, and the word sindhu is used as a synonym for the word "river" in several Indian languages including Telugu. The word Sindh is a result of the typical northindian practice of dropping the last vowels in some Sanskrit words.

swapna wrote:
while the music you refer to may be southern indian, the "sindhu" that's in its name ("sindhu bhairavi?") almost surely refers to the sindh region of pakistan, which is northindian. to my knowledge, there is only one sindh. I still wonder why it's called "sindhu bhairavi."

It is far more likely that the name of the raga refers to the name of the river, or any generic river, than to the region where that river forms a delta.

interesting that in thamizh, "sindhi.."  refers to, and generally means flow of/fall of, like water or any fluid, including sambar - mostly liquid forms. of course, there is much more to it, but the direct association is interesting.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Sindhu is also a form of poetry in Tamil, e.g. kavadi sindhu. I'd have no problem naming a girl child sindhu. There's a Carnatic raga called sindhu bhairavi. There's nothing northindian about it. The river in Punjab and the province surrounding it is Sindh not Sindhu.

swapna wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Sindhu is also a form of poetry in Tamil, e.g. kavadi sindhu. I'd have no problem naming a girl child sindhu. There's a Carnatic raga called sindhu bhairavi. There's nothing northindian about it. The river in Punjab and the province surrounding it is Sindh not Sindhu.

if there's nothing northindian about the carnatic raga, why is it called sindhu bhairavi, sindhu being a distinctly northindian, pakistani river? were the composers tamil brahmins, and were they expressing their admiration for northpeepals? have northpeepals heard of these tamil brahmins?

garam_kuta wrote:

swapna wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Sindhu is also a form of poetry in Tamil, e.g. kavadi sindhu. I'd have no problem naming a girl child sindhu. There's a Carnatic raga called sindhu bhairavi. There's nothing northindian about it. The river in Punjab and the province surrounding it is Sindh not Sindhu.

if there's nothing northindian about the carnatic raga, why is it called sindhu bhairavi, sindhu being a distinctly northindian, pakistani river? were the composers tamil brahmins, and were they expressing their admiration for northpeepals? have northpeepals heard of these tamil brahmins?

actually it's your humble, dedicated maid rashmun who named it sindhu bhairavi in your honor, all due to your unparalleled fascination with fluids, their dynamics, phase transitions etc.,

swapna wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Sindhu is also a form of poetry in Tamil, e.g. kavadi sindhu. I'd have no problem naming a girl child sindhu. There's a Carnatic raga called sindhu bhairavi. There's nothing northindian about it. The river in Punjab and the province surrounding it is Sindh not Sindhu.

if there's nothing northindian about the carnatic raga, why is it called sindhu bhairavi, sindhu being a distinctly northindian, pakistani river? were the composers tamil brahmins, and were they expressing their admiration for northpeepals? have northpeepals heard of these tamil brahmins?

swapna wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Sindhu is also a form of poetry in Tamil, e.g. kavadi sindhu. I'd have no problem naming a girl child sindhu. There's a Carnatic raga called sindhu bhairavi. There's nothing northindian about it. The river in Punjab and the province surrounding it is Sindh not Sindhu.

if there's nothing northindian about the carnatic raga, why is it called sindhu bhairavi, sindhu being a distinctly northindian, pakistani river? were the composers tamil brahmins, and were they expressing their admiration for northpeepals? have northpeepals heard of these tamil brahmins?

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

swapna wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Sindhu is also a form of poetry in Tamil, e.g. kavadi sindhu. I'd have no problem naming a girl child sindhu. There's a Carnatic raga called sindhu bhairavi. There's nothing northindian about it. The river in Punjab and the province surrounding it is Sindh not Sindhu.

if there's nothing northindian about the carnatic raga, why is it called sindhu bhairavi, sindhu being a distinctly northindian, pakistani river? were the composers tamil brahmins, and were they expressing their admiration for northpeepals? have northpeepals heard of these tamil brahmins?

Why so much hostility over so trivial a matter? Ever heard of homonyms? The classification of Tamil poetry and melodies (paNNs) pre dates any knowledge of Pakistan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_River wrote:

Etymology and names[edit]

This river was known to the ancient Iranians in Avestan as Hindu, in Sanskrit as Sindhu, to Assyrians (as early as the 7th century BC) as Sinda, to the Persians as Ab-e-sind, to the Greeks as Indos, to theRomans as Indus, to the Pashtuns as Abasind, to the Arabs as Al-Sind, to the Chinese as Sintow, and to the Javanese as Santri.^{[citation needed]} In Pali, Síndhu means "river, stream" and refers to the Indus River in particular.^[1]
The word "Indus" is the romanised form of the ancient Greek word "Indós" (Ἰνδός), borrowed from the old Persian word "Hinduš" which is in turn borrowed from the Sanskrit word "Sindhu".
Megasthenes's book Indica derives its name from the river's Greek name, "Indós" (Ἰνδός), and describes Nearchus's contemporaneous account of how Alexander the Great crossed the river. The ancient Greeks referred to the Indians (people of present-day northwest India and Pakistan) as "Indói" (Ἰνδοί), literally meaning "the people of the Indus".^{[2][clarification needed]} The country of India and the Pakistani province of Sindh owe their names to the river.^{[3][clarification needed]}

Rigveda and the Indus[edit]

Rigveda also describes several mythical rivers, including one named "Sindhu". The Rigvedic "Sindhu" is thought to be the present-day Indus river and is attested 176 times in its text – 95 times in the plural, more often used in the generic meaning. In the Rigveda, notably in the later hymns, the meaning of the word is narrowed to refer to the Indus river in particular, as in the list of rivers mentioned in the hymn ofNadistuti sukta. The Rigvedic hymns apply a feminine gender to all the rivers mentioned therein but "Sindhu" is the only river attributed with a masculine gender. Sindhu is seen as a strong warrior amongst other rivers which are seen as goddesses and compared to cows and mares yielding milk and butter.

Hellsangel wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_River wrote:

Etymology and names[edit]

This river was known to the ancient Iranians in Avestan as Hindu, in Sanskrit as Sindhu, to Assyrians (as early as the 7th century BC) as Sinda, to the Persians as Ab-e-sind, to the Greeks as Indos, to theRomans as Indus, to the Pashtuns as Abasind, to the Arabs as Al-Sind, to the Chinese as Sintow, and to the Javanese as Santri.^{[citation needed]} In Pali, Síndhu means "river, stream" and refers to the Indus River in particular.^[1]
The word "Indus" is the romanised form of the ancient Greek word "Indós" (Ἰνδός), borrowed from the old Persian word "Hinduš" which is in turn borrowed from the Sanskrit word "Sindhu".
Megasthenes's book Indica derives its name from the river's Greek name, "Indós" (Ἰνδός), and describes Nearchus's contemporaneous account of how Alexander the Great crossed the river. The ancient Greeks referred to the Indians (people of present-day northwest India and Pakistan) as "Indói" (Ἰνδοί), literally meaning "the people of the Indus".^{[2][clarification needed]} The country of India and the Pakistani province of Sindh owe their names to the river.^{[3][clarification needed]}

Rigveda and the Indus[edit]

Rigveda also describes several mythical rivers, including one named "Sindhu". The Rigvedic "Sindhu" is thought to be the present-day Indus river and is attested 176 times in its text – 95 times in the plural, more often used in the generic meaning. In the Rigveda, notably in the later hymns, the meaning of the word is narrowed to refer to the Indus river in particular, as in the list of rivers mentioned in the hymn ofNadistuti sukta. The Rigvedic hymns apply a feminine gender to all the rivers mentioned therein but "Sindhu" is the only river attributed with a masculine gender. Sindhu is seen as a strong warrior amongst other rivers which are seen as goddesses and compared to cows and mares yielding milk and butter.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_River wrote:

Etymology and names[edit]

This river was known to the ancient Iranians in Avestan as Hindu, in Sanskrit as Sindhu, to Assyrians (as early as the 7th century BC) as Sinda, to the Persians as Ab-e-sind, to the Greeks as Indos, to theRomans as Indus, to the Pashtuns as Abasind, to the Arabs as Al-Sind, to the Chinese as Sintow, and to the Javanese as Santri.^{[citation needed]} In Pali, Síndhu means "river, stream" and refers to the Indus River in particular.^[1]
The word "Indus" is the romanised form of the ancient Greek word "Indós" (Ἰνδός), borrowed from the old Persian word "Hinduš" which is in turn borrowed from the Sanskrit word "Sindhu".
Megasthenes's book Indica derives its name from the river's Greek name, "Indós" (Ἰνδός), and describes Nearchus's contemporaneous account of how Alexander the Great crossed the river. The ancient Greeks referred to the Indians (people of present-day northwest India and Pakistan) as "Indói" (Ἰνδοί), literally meaning "the people of the Indus".^{[2][clarification needed]} The country of India and the Pakistani province of Sindh owe their names to the river.^{[3][clarification needed]}

Rigveda and the Indus[edit]

Rigveda also describes several mythical rivers, including one named "Sindhu". The Rigvedic "Sindhu" is thought to be the present-day Indus river and is attested 176 times in its text – 95 times in the plural, more often used in the generic meaning. In the Rigveda, notably in the later hymns, the meaning of the word is narrowed to refer to the Indus river in particular, as in the list of rivers mentioned in the hymn ofNadistuti sukta. The Rigvedic hymns apply a feminine gender to all the rivers mentioned therein but "Sindhu" is the only river attributed with a masculine gender. Sindhu is seen as a strong warrior amongst other rivers which are seen as goddesses and compared to cows and mares yielding milk and butter.

That is still tangential to the point I was making. Briefly, the word sindhu has a meaning aside from "river" in Tamil and possibly other Dravidian languages. One of them being a type of poem and a related one, a type of melody. It is likely that the southern Indian given name Sindhu has its origins in these meanings and not necessarily related to the river Sindhu of the Rig Veda. As an aside, it is more than likely that the Sindhu of the raga name Sindhu Bhairavi has a Dravidian provenance given that poetry and music are so closely related in the southern Indian tradition. Ancient Tamils always referred to Iyal (literature), Isai (Music), Nadakam (Drama) as one entity.

When I first heard the badminton player's name, I must say that the first thoughts that occurred to me about her name were the Tamil poetic and musical meanings and not the river Sind (Indus).

Rashmun wrote:

swapna wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Sindhu is also a form of poetry in Tamil, e.g. kavadi sindhu. I'd have no problem naming a girl child sindhu. There's a Carnatic raga called sindhu bhairavi. There's nothing northindian about it. The river in Punjab and the province surrounding it is Sindh not Sindhu.

if there's nothing northindian about the carnatic raga, why is it called sindhu bhairavi, sindhu being a distinctly northindian, pakistani river? were the composers tamil brahmins, and were they expressing their admiration for northpeepals? have northpeepals heard of these tamil brahmins?

i think Max's point is that the same word can have a different origin (and meaning). for instance, naayi means dog in tamil but in hindi it means a barber.

garam_kuta wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

swapna wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Sindhu is also a form of poetry in Tamil, e.g. kavadi sindhu. I'd have no problem naming a girl child sindhu. There's a Carnatic raga called sindhu bhairavi. There's nothing northindian about it. The river in Punjab and the province surrounding it is Sindh not Sindhu.

if there's nothing northindian about the carnatic raga, why is it called sindhu bhairavi, sindhu being a distinctly northindian, pakistani river? were the composers tamil brahmins, and were they expressing their admiration for northpeepals? have northpeepals heard of these tamil brahmins?

i think Max's point is that the same word can have a different origin (and meaning). for instance, naayi means dog in tamil but in hindi it means a barber.

yo chompissky,
please spare us the pain, and just stick to copy-pasting..
it is naai, 'நாய்', NOT naayi, 'நாயி'.    
you and sapna are the most incorrigible; and compared to you two, trump is a saint, i tell ya

Idéfix wrote:Closely fought, but she won!

Rashmun wrote:

garam_kuta wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

swapna wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Sindhu is also a form of poetry in Tamil, e.g. kavadi sindhu. I'd have no problem naming a girl child sindhu. There's a Carnatic raga called sindhu bhairavi. There's nothing northindian about it. The river in Punjab and the province surrounding it is Sindh not Sindhu.

if there's nothing northindian about the carnatic raga, why is it called sindhu bhairavi, sindhu being a distinctly northindian, pakistani river? were the composers tamil brahmins, and were they expressing their admiration for northpeepals? have northpeepals heard of these tamil brahmins?

i think Max's point is that the same word can have a different origin (and meaning). for instance, naayi means dog in tamil but in hindi it means a barber.

yo chompissky,
please spare us the pain, and just stick to copy-pasting..
it is naai, 'நாய்', NOT naayi, 'நாயி'.    
you and sapna are the most incorrigible; and compared to you two, trump is a saint, i tell ya

what is relevant here is not the spelling of the word but its pronunciation...

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Idéfix wrote:Closely fought, but she won!

Next is the gold medal match?

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

swapna wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Sindhu is also a form of poetry in Tamil, e.g. kavadi sindhu. I'd have no problem naming a girl child sindhu. There's a Carnatic raga called sindhu bhairavi. There's nothing northindian about it. The river in Punjab and the province surrounding it is Sindh not Sindhu.

if there's nothing northindian about the carnatic raga, why is it called sindhu bhairavi, sindhu being a distinctly northindian, pakistani river? were the composers tamil brahmins, and were they expressing their admiration for northpeepals? have northpeepals heard of these tamil brahmins?

Why so much hostility over so trivial a matter? Ever heard of homonyms? The classification of Tamil poetry and melodies (paNNs) pre dates any knowledge of Pakistan.

swapna wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

swapna wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Sindhu is also a form of poetry in Tamil, e.g. kavadi sindhu. I'd have no problem naming a girl child sindhu. There's a Carnatic raga called sindhu bhairavi. There's nothing northindian about it. The river in Punjab and the province surrounding it is Sindh not Sindhu.

if there's nothing northindian about the carnatic raga, why is it called sindhu bhairavi, sindhu being a distinctly northindian, pakistani river? were the composers tamil brahmins, and were they expressing their admiration for northpeepals? have northpeepals heard of these tamil brahmins?

Why so much hostility over so trivial a matter? Ever heard of homonyms? The classification of Tamil poetry and melodies (paNNs) pre dates any knowledge of Pakistan.

discussion is not (an expression of) hostility. when you post, there is always a risk that someone will post a different opinion. 

given the number of words you've posted here on the use of the word sindhu, it's apparently not a trivial matter to you.

I don't know what you mean by "predates any knowledge of pakistan." there were many references to the sindhu river in the rig veda, which dates back to about 1500 b.c., and that predates carnatic music. did the tamils, most likely brahmins, make up the name "sindhu" independently and by chance?

southindian wrote:Thomas,

Don't fuss too much. This "Sindhu thing" is beyond you. And Sindhu word was not born after 1947. It didn't come with Jesus either or Assad's Syria.

This is from a region familiar to you, called India.

silvermani wrote:

southindian wrote:Thomas,

Don't fuss too much. This "Sindhu thing" is beyond you. And Sindhu word was not born after 1947. It didn't come with Jesus either or Assad's Syria.

This is from a region familiar to you, called India.

There was no India before 1947 either. And I wonder why the national anthem hasn't deleted reference to sindh after 1947. It still has the line "punjab sindhu gujarat maratha".