Pierce Morgan v India

Rashmun wrote:Sehwag is being foolish and so is the title of your thread. Piers Morgan is not against India, rather in his own way he is pointing out that a country with 1.2 billion people ought to win more medals at the Olympics than a silver and a bronze.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Rashmun wrote:Sehwag is being foolish and so is the title of your thread. Piers Morgan is not against India, rather in his own way he is pointing out that a country with 1.2 billion people ought to win more medals at the Olympics than a silver and a bronze.

no doubt, india should win more medals, but pierce morgan also has a poorly informed view of why indians are celebrating. it is not the number of medals per se, but the fact that it is women who have brought home the two medals. in a country that treats women poorly in general, the two medals that these women have won have a far greater social significance than the many medals that british women have brought home. the medal that sakshi won in particular is enormously important, given that she hails from the state with the poorest sex ratio in the country. it's a massive inspiration for indian women in general and haryanavi women in particular. i have no doubt that morgan is completely clueless about all this.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/m.ndtv.com/india-news/virender-sehwag-epic-response-to-piers-morgans-tweet-on-indias-olympic-celebration-1449911%3famp=1&akamai-rum=off?client=safari

swapna wrote:indians in india don't live their lives so that distant indian-americans can feel proud of india, and good about themseves, merely because of their connections, however tenuous, with india.

let's see you compete with the chinese and the koreans for college admissions in the u.s. without complaining.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

swapna wrote:let's see you compete with the chinese and the koreans for college admissions in the u.s. without cse, my original post was more about 

i am not competing with anyone for college admissions. i am done with college.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

swapna wrote:indians in india don't live their lives so that distant indian-americans can feel proud of india, and good about themseves, merely because of their connections, however tenuous, with india.

let's see you compete with the chinese and the koreans for college admissions in the u.s. without complaining.

when you want to criticize indian americans about their religious and caste prejudices, their connections are not so tenuous, and you readily ascribe all their undesirable traits to their indianness. i find that very interesting.

Rashmun wrote:Sehwag is being foolish and so is the title of your thread. Piers Morgan is not against India, rather in his own way he is pointing out that a country with 1.2 billion people ought to win more medals at the Olympics than a silver and a bronze.

swapna wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

swapna wrote:indians in india don't live their lives so that distant indian-americans can feel proud of india, and good about themseves, merely because of their connections, however tenuous, with india.

let's see you compete with the chinese and the koreans for college admissions in the u.s. without complaining.

when you want to criticize indian americans about their religious and caste prejudices, their connections are not so tenuous, and you readily ascribe all their undesirable traits to their indianness. i find that very interesting.

no, not to their indiannness, but largely to their hinduness. after all, caste is a hindu invention, and it's largely they who propagated it, all these millennia. nearly all the ills of india are caste-based. 

I do not claim that all hindus are religipn- or caste-conscious, but an alarming percent of the highly-educated are, perhaps as much as 75%.

I've been here at this site, such, and its parent for over fifteen years, and I make inferences based on my observations.

still, I'm optimistic about india and its caste-based ills; as freedoms, the entrepreneurial spirit, incomes, and the free market take over, the importance of caste will diminish. but it's very.slow, and we are missing important opportunities.