batting zero

Propagandhi711 wrote:wonder how the bicoastal bar charters & wapo warrior elites feel now...must be crushing that they've gotten india elections wrong in '14 and now this stunning defeat. I suspect they'll focus their energies on 2nd amendment now (again full 100% out of step with rest of the country & world) and will be 0-3. most amusing to see. I myself am batting .500 in predictions but I never liked hillary so not crying that she lost. only worried abt what the trumpanzee will do to the economy but there's always 2020 if he fucks up real bad. 

schadenfreude is delicious indeed.

Hellsangel wrote:Time for this I guess:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:wonder how the bicoastal bar charters & wapo warrior elites feel now...must be crushing that they've gotten india elections wrong in '14 and now this stunning defeat. I suspect they'll focus their energies on 2nd amendment now (again full 100% out of step with rest of the country & world) and will be 0-3. most amusing to see. I myself am batting .500 in predictions but I never liked hillary so not crying that she lost. only worried abt what the trumpanzee will do to the economy but there's always 2020 if he fucks up real bad. 

schadenfreude is delicious indeed.

I won't deny it, it is crushing. But I am not sure I understand the schadenfreude since your claim was that you did not support Trump, and that you are worried about the economy.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:wonder how the bicoastal bar charters & wapo warrior elites feel now...must be crushing that they've gotten india elections wrong in '14 and now this stunning defeat. I suspect they'll focus their energies on 2nd amendment now (again full 100% out of step with rest of the country & world) and will be 0-3. most amusing to see. I myself am batting .500 in predictions but I never liked hillary so not crying that she lost. only worried abt what the trumpanzee will do to the economy but there's always 2020 if he fucks up real bad. 

schadenfreude is delicious indeed.

I won't deny it, it is crushing. But I am not sure I understand the schadenfreude since your claim was that you did not support Trump, and that you are worried about the economy.

Hellsangel wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:wonder how the bicoastal bar charters & wapo warrior elites feel now...must be crushing that they've gotten india elections wrong in '14 and now this stunning defeat. I suspect they'll focus their energies on 2nd amendment now (again full 100% out of step with rest of the country & world) and will be 0-3. most amusing to see. I myself am batting .500 in predictions but I never liked hillary so not crying that she lost. only worried abt what the trumpanzee will do to the economy but there's always 2020 if he fucks up real bad. 

schadenfreude is delicious indeed.

I won't deny it, it is crushing. But I am not sure I understand the schadenfreude since your claim was that you did not support Trump, and that you are worried about the economy.

What was that advise you were dispensing about Yoga and meditation?

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:wonder how the bicoastal bar charters & wapo warrior elites feel now...must be crushing that they've gotten india elections wrong in '14 and now this stunning defeat. I suspect they'll focus their energies on 2nd amendment now (again full 100% out of step with rest of the country & world) and will be 0-3. most amusing to see. I myself am batting .500 in predictions but I never liked hillary so not crying that she lost. only worried abt what the trumpanzee will do to the economy but there's always 2020 if he fucks up real bad. 

schadenfreude is delicious indeed.

I won't deny it, it is crushing. But I am not sure I understand the schadenfreude since your claim was that you did not support Trump, and that you are worried about the economy.

What was that advise you were dispensing about Yoga and meditation?

I am already into yoga and meditation and yes it will help.

But schadenfreude cuts both ways. If the economy tanks, I am going down, but so are all the people who voted for him. At least I'll have the satisfaction of knowing that I am not responsible for it. Same thing with blowback on immigrants from fringe white nationalist groups who'll now be emboldened to take their movement mainstream. I am brown-skinned, but so are you, but at least I didn't vote for him and hence bear no blame.

Scarlet O'Hara wrote:Dunno. W was fairly disastrous and he stayed on for second term. And he left the country in complete shambles.

Scarlet O'Hara wrote:Dunno. W was fairly disastrous and he stayed on for second term. And he left the country in complete shambles.

And even if they kick him out, at what cost?

At the cost of first admitting we elected the biggest lying narcissist crook who has still has pending cases and inquiries in court? Who is so unfit temperamentally that his team had to block his twitter access last couple days? Who NEVER shared his shoddy business practices hidden in his tax records? Who represents EVERYTHING a normal parent tries to teach their child against?

At the cost of making a mockery out of the whole process?

At the cost of another candidate who deserved to win for so many reasons? This is the biggest loss that's keeping me low today. (don't even want to get into yet another discussion over this)

At the cost of RNC continuing it's dirty politics of continuously casting shadows on any democratic president, with fox news it's biggest mouthpiece? They did it with Bill Clinton throughout his 8 years. They did with Obama and his birth and religion. And they were after Hillary since even before Bill Clinton became president, and they would have continued in an even bigger scale had she won. This definitely parallels with congress (and now AAP too) party whiners of India, except they are much more successful with their bullshit here.

It's easy to be gracious and ask for unity and mutual respect when you win. The message seems clear, (and I only hope I am wrong). Let the white man have his secure spot he feels entitled to, and he will then plead with you to keep peace and mutual respect. Reverse the situation and try to replace him with color or gender, and be prepared for his endless anger and unrest.

If Trump had lost, he would be preparing to sue half the states. And we would have heard of all kinds of conspiracy theories of voter fraud. The real winner is Clinton's concession speech today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-Zt_oGTm4I

And that's the sense of loss that's making me depressed today. Almost as depressed as I was on the day FBI dropped the bombshell. I knew then that she will lose.

wonder how the bicoastal bar charters & wapo warrior elites feel now

Idéfix wrote:
On the personal front, this outcome has helped clarify my thinking. I was under heavy pressure to apply for naturalization, something I had resisted but was considering coming around to. I am far too liberal, far too brown, far too irreligious, far too accented, and far too educated to not keep my options open in this environment.

confuzzled dude wrote:I'm very disappointed, no doubt about that but I'm also very satisfied that I voted for Hillary Clinton. Initially, I did not like her and thought she was an arrogant person but after having listened to her speeches, and watching her conduct herself over the past few months, and especially for sticking to her guns wrt abortion rights, she has gained a lot of my respect; I'm sure she gained a lot respect from folks like me.  So, no regrets.

Idéfix wrote:
I will freely admit that I was wrong. I misread this country. I thought people were nicer and more progressive than they actually are.

Idéfix wrote:
On the personal front, this outcome has helped clarify my thinking. I was under heavy pressure to apply for naturalization, something I had resisted but was considering coming around to. I am far too liberal, far too brown, far too irreligious, far too accented, and far too educated to not keep my options open in this environment.

truthbetold wrote:I do not think Trump will not do most of the things that democrats accused him of. He is not going to misuse nuclear button or is he going to grab any pussy (atleast publicly). He would not be able to order mass deportations nor could he push around China for new trade deals. 

He can appoint a new judge to supreme court to tilt the supreme court for next decade or two to right. But his official actions are not the biggest problem for minority citizens. The ugly forces pampered by his campaign cannot be put back in cage even if he tried (which is doubtful) . These radical extremist elements will be making forays into mainstream America and cause  local problems. At local level, there is limited to non existent capacity to fight such extreme element. Their actions will combine intellectual tricks and physical actions to stir up trouble.  Who is going to stop them?

confuzzled dude wrote:

Idéfix wrote:
I will freely admit that I was wrong. I misread this country. I thought people were nicer and more progressive than they actually are.

May be you should go on a month long trip to rural counties What did you expect from the folks who have no respect for woman's choice (pro-life), want their supreme court judges to be mullahs err preachers of Christianity.

Idéfix wrote:
Trump won't be able to deliver several things he promised. The question is where his movement goes from there. Do the ugly forces as you call them then turn on him, or on scapegoats like highly-educated dark-skinned foreigners doing well in "their" country?

This election was about the past. Two 70-year-olds fighting it out about each other's past mistakes, and the winner won by promising to restore a glorious past that is neither glorious nor can be restored. He cannot bring back well-paid hourly jobs in manufacturing for moderately-skilled high school graduates. This is a BIG part of his promise to America. But automation is an unstoppable trend. Human labor will do less and less factory work. When the God Emperor (as he is known in some circles of his fandom) fails on his core promises, there will be hell to pay and it may be paid by the people who lost yesterday.

Idéfix wrote:
I thought they were genuinely religious and Christian, and could see Trump for the snake-oil salesman he is. He couldn't quote a single favorite Bible verse. He very likely hasn't read the Bible, and he called it his favorite book during the primaries. But apparently they care about Supreme Court justices, abortion, gay marriage, etc. a lot more than about their "leader" being a good Christian.

Idéfix wrote:

truthbetold wrote:I do not think Trump will not do most of the things that democrats accused him of. He is not going to misuse nuclear button or is he going to grab any pussy (atleast publicly). He would not be able to order mass deportations nor could he push around China for new trade deals. 

He can appoint a new judge to supreme court to tilt the supreme court for next decade or two to right. But his official actions are not the biggest problem for minority citizens. The ugly forces pampered by his campaign cannot be put back in cage even if he tried (which is doubtful) . These radical extremist elements will be making forays into mainstream America and cause  local problems. At local level, there is limited to non existent capacity to fight such extreme element. Their actions will combine intellectual tricks and physical actions to stir up trouble.  Who is going to stop them?

Trump won't be able to deliver several things he promised. The question is where his movement goes from there. Do the ugly forces as you call them then turn on him, or on scapegoats like highly-educated dark-skinned foreigners doing well in "their" country?

**My mind is having these crazy reruns of this interview i read with david duke several mos ago where he praised trump and stated that he is returning to politics because he is so heartened by the response to his campaign.
early this morning cnn had a telephone interview with someone from breitbart. can't believe they'd invite someone like that.
so since he promised undeliverables like having jobs come back he will likley deliver more hate. i find it difficult to believe there are any gray cells under the wig.

pravalika nanda wrote:

Idéfix wrote:

truthbetold wrote:I do not think Trump will not do most of the things that democrats accused him of. He is not going to misuse nuclear button or is he going to grab any pussy (atleast publicly). He would not be able to order mass deportations nor could he push around China for new trade deals. 

He can appoint a new judge to supreme court to tilt the supreme court for next decade or two to right. But his official actions are not the biggest problem for minority citizens. The ugly forces pampered by his campaign cannot be put back in cage even if he tried (which is doubtful) . These radical extremist elements will be making forays into mainstream America and cause  local problems. At local level, there is limited to non existent capacity to fight such extreme element. Their actions will combine intellectual tricks and physical actions to stir up trouble.  Who is going to stop them?

Trump won't be able to deliver several things he promised. The question is where his movement goes from there. Do the ugly forces as you call them then turn on him, or on scapegoats like highly-educated dark-skinned foreigners doing well in "their" country?

**My mind is having these crazy reruns of this interview i read with david duke several mos ago where he praised trump and stated that he is returning to politics because he is so heartened by the response to his campaign.
early this morning cnn had a telephone interview with someone from breitbart. can't believe they'd invite someone like that.
so since he promised undeliverables like having jobs come back he will likley deliver more hate. i find it difficult to believe there are any gray cells under the wig.

** but i think for the health of any democracy all voices must be heard and we have to respect that and work together. so we live in a healthy democracy, people voted and there will be a peaceful transition to the next presidency.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Ignoring the hurt of the rust belt voters was a big mistake that not only democrats and Clinton are guilty of but also establishment Republicans. Trump has sold them a package that he most likely will not deliver on but I am also making a prediction that at the end of four years his supporters will not forsake him. They won't forsake him because it is human tendency to not accept a mistake readily. At the end of four years they'll still blame the illegal and legal immigrants, Muslims, other assorted brown people and the elites and will give him a second term. I am quite pessimistic.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Ignoring the hurt of the rust belt voters was a big mistake that not only democrats and Clinton are guilty of but also establishment Republicans. Trump has sold them a package that he most likely will not deliver on but I am also making a prediction that at the end of four years his supporters will not forsake him. They won't forsake him because it is human tendency to not accept a mistake readily. At the end of four years they'll still blame the illegal and legal immigrants, Muslims, other assorted brown people and the elites and will give him a second term. I am quite pessimistic.

Grew up in this town. I'm 54 years old now. Left when I was a jr in HS teh year before the mill closed. Ytown's problems can't be blamed on either party at the federal level. The roots of these modern day problems started long before the mill closed in 1979. Years of spending city and county tax dollars like there was bottomless pit of $$$ and not saving anything for a rainy day, not considering the mill may actually close one day and preparing the work force for next generation jobs. The writer has no clue how close he came to describing the "good old days." I have friends as kid whose father's quit school in the 8th grade when down to the mill got a job and never finished HS. When a man was getting to retire, he would bring in his cousin, nephew, son, son-in-law, etc introduce him to the foreman and just like that, he would retire one day and that person would started the next day. It really was like a tradition to work in the mill. They worked all the hours they wanted including overtime and they lived WELL. The wives were stay at home moms, they owned a home, nice cars, vacations etc. Most everyone thought it would never end. I remember everso often when I was a kid, someone would run for office, mayor or city council on the platform that one day the mills may close and the city should start saving some of the tax dollar and investing in other industry. They would get laughed off the ballot and beat in a landslide on election day.  

By the time I started 8th grade somehow the younger generation somehow noticed the writing was on the wall even if their parents didn't because slowly but surely kids graduating from HS instead of ALL going to the mill for employment, there was a slow drip then a steady stream of people graduating from HS and getting the heck out of dodge, military, college or heading south to Atlanta. By time my jr. year instead of it being assumed you were going to the mill to get a job, it was anything but the mill.

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Ignoring the hurt of the rust belt voters was a big mistake that not only democrats and Clinton are guilty of but also establishment Republicans. Trump has sold them a package that he most likely will not deliver on but I am also making a prediction that at the end of four years his supporters will not forsake him. They won't forsake him because it is human tendency to not accept a mistake readily. At the end of four years they'll still blame the illegal and legal immigrants, Muslims, other assorted brown people and the elites and will give him a second term. I am quite pessimistic.

Clinton focussed too much on the negative campaigning of Trump and that backfired. She thought that if she could project Trump as anti-hispanic, anti-blacks, anti-muslims, anti-immigrant, anti-women, anti-LGBT, etc she could get votes from all these groups, through which she could win the presidency. 
When Trump took one step, Hillary took two steps to further divide the society and play the vote bank politics. It's similar to the caste based politics in India. In the process, she forgot to address the real issues and that has hurt her. In the end, did she get full support from all these groups? No.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Ignoring the hurt of the rust belt voters was a big mistake that not only democrats and Clinton are guilty of but also establishment Republicans. Trump has sold them a package that he most likely will not deliver on but I am also making a prediction that at the end of four years his supporters will not forsake him. They won't forsake him because it is human tendency to not accept a mistake readily. At the end of four years they'll still blame the illegal and legal immigrants, Muslims, other assorted brown people and the elites and will give him a second term. I am quite pessimistic.

Clinton focussed too much on the negative campaigning of Trump and that backfired. She thought that if she could project Trump as anti-hispanic, anti-blacks, anti-muslims, anti-immigrant, anti-women, anti-LGBT, etc she could get votes from all these groups, through which she could win the presidency. 
When Trump took one step, Hillary took two steps to further divide the society and play the vote bank politics. It's similar to the caste based politics in India. In the process, she forgot to address the real issues and that has hurt her. In the end, did she get full support from all these groups? No.

I don't see what she was 'projecting'. He did say all those things quite freely. It's all on video if you want to watch it. Apparently scapegoating immigrants and minorities is perfectly acceptable in contemporary America. However, and this phenomenon will be even more difficult for people like me to understand, some people who belong to those very groups have been willing to support him, the rationale being that Hillary's shortcomings were even more serious. I don't agree with it, but I'm not on the winning side of this debate. So I'll deal with it.  I'm not on Facebook but my family members have shared salutary posts by many Indians in support of Trump. So it's clear his support amongst Indians is non trivial and not limited to our little group here.

Scarlet O'Hara wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Ignoring the hurt of the rust belt voters was a big mistake that not only democrats and Clinton are guilty of but also establishment Republicans. Trump has sold them a package that he most likely will not deliver on but I am also making a prediction that at the end of four years his supporters will not forsake him. They won't forsake him because it is human tendency to not accept a mistake readily. At the end of four years they'll still blame the illegal and legal immigrants, Muslims, other assorted brown people and the elites and will give him a second term. I am quite pessimistic.

Clinton focussed too much on the negative campaigning of Trump and that backfired. She thought that if she could project Trump as anti-hispanic, anti-blacks, anti-muslims, anti-immigrant, anti-women, anti-LGBT, etc she could get votes from all these groups, through which she could win the presidency. 
When Trump took one step, Hillary took two steps to further divide the society and play the vote bank politics. It's similar to the caste based politics in India. In the process, she forgot to address the real issues and that has hurt her. In the end, did she get full support from all these groups? No.

I don't see what she was 'projecting'. He did say all those things quite freely. It's all on video if you want to watch it. Apparently scapegoating immigrants and minorities is perfectly acceptable in contemporary America. However, and this phenomenon will be even more difficult for people like me to understand, some people who belong to those very groups have been willing to support him, the rationale being that Hillary's shortcomings were even more serious. I don't agree with it, but I'm not on the winning side of this debate. So I'll deal with it.  I'm not on Facebook but my family members have shared salutary posts by many Indians in support of Trump. So it's clear his support amongst Indians is non trivial and not limited to our little group here.

looks like they are the first one to be had http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/muslim-ban-statement-disappears-trump-website/story?id=43433347

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Scarlet O'Hara wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Ignoring the hurt of the rust belt voters was a big mistake that not only democrats and Clinton are guilty of but also establishment Republicans. Trump has sold them a package that he most likely will not deliver on but I am also making a prediction that at the end of four years his supporters will not forsake him. They won't forsake him because it is human tendency to not accept a mistake readily. At the end of four years they'll still blame the illegal and legal immigrants, Muslims, other assorted brown people and the elites and will give him a second term. I am quite pessimistic.

Clinton focussed too much on the negative campaigning of Trump and that backfired. She thought that if she could project Trump as anti-hispanic, anti-blacks, anti-muslims, anti-immigrant, anti-women, anti-LGBT, etc she could get votes from all these groups, through which she could win the presidency. 
When Trump took one step, Hillary took two steps to further divide the society and play the vote bank politics. It's similar to the caste based politics in India. In the process, she forgot to address the real issues and that has hurt her. In the end, did she get full support from all these groups? No.

I don't see what she was 'projecting'. He did say all those things quite freely. It's all on video if you want to watch it. Apparently scapegoating immigrants and minorities is perfectly acceptable in contemporary America. However, and this phenomenon will be even more difficult for people like me to understand, some people who belong to those very groups have been willing to support him, the rationale being that Hillary's shortcomings were even more serious. I don't agree with it, but I'm not on the winning side of this debate. So I'll deal with it.  I'm not on Facebook but my family members have shared salutary posts by many Indians in support of Trump. So it's clear his support amongst Indians is non trivial and not limited to our little group here.

looks like they are the first one to be had http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/muslim-ban-statement-disappears-trump-website/story?id=43433347

I'm sure Donald will be publishing a report on what the hell is going on real soon.

Idéfix wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Idéfix wrote:
I will freely admit that I was wrong. I misread this country. I thought people were nicer and more progressive than they actually are.

May be you should go on a month long trip to rural counties What did you expect from the folks who have no respect for woman's choice (pro-life), want their supreme court judges to be mullahs err preachers of Christianity.

I thought they were genuinely religious and Christian, and could see Trump for the snake-oil salesman he is. He couldn't quote a single favorite Bible verse. He very likely hasn't read the Bible, and he called it his favorite book during the primaries. But apparently they care about Supreme Court justices, abortion, gay marriage, etc. a lot more than about their "leader" being a good Christian.

Idéfix wrote:

truthbetold wrote:I do not think Trump will not do most of the things that democrats accused him of. He is not going to misuse nuclear button or is he going to grab any pussy (atleast publicly). He would not be able to order mass deportations nor could he push around China for new trade deals. 

He can appoint a new judge to supreme court to tilt the supreme court for next decade or two to right. But his official actions are not the biggest problem for minority citizens. The ugly forces pampered by his campaign cannot be put back in cage even if he tried (which is doubtful) . These radical extremist elements will be making forays into mainstream America and cause  local problems. At local level, there is limited to non existent capacity to fight such extreme element. Their actions will combine intellectual tricks and physical actions to stir up trouble.  Who is going to stop them?

Trump won't be able to deliver several things he promised. The question is where his movement goes from there. Do the ugly forces as you call them then turn on him, or on scapegoats like highly-educated dark-skinned foreigners doing well in "their" country?

This election was about the past. Two 70-year-olds fighting it out about each other's past mistakes, and the winner won by promising to restore a glorious past that is neither glorious nor can be restored. He cannot bring back well-paid hourly jobs in manufacturing for moderately-skilled high school graduates. This is a BIG part of his promise to America. But automation is an unstoppable trend. Human labor will do less and less factory work. When the God Emperor (as he is known in some circles of his fandom) fails on his core promises, there will be hell to pay and it may be paid by the people who lost yesterday.

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Idéfix wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Idéfix wrote:
I will freely admit that I was wrong. I misread this country. I thought people were nicer and more progressive than they actually are.

May be you should go on a month long trip to rural counties What did you expect from the folks who have no respect for woman's choice (pro-life), want their supreme court judges to be mullahs err preachers of Christianity.

I thought they were genuinely religious and Christian, and could see Trump for the snake-oil salesman he is. He couldn't quote a single favorite Bible verse. He very likely hasn't read the Bible, and he called it his favorite book during the primaries. But apparently they care about Supreme Court justices, abortion, gay marriage, etc. a lot more than about their "leader" being a good Christian.

the bible is a very very good book. it's such a beautiful book, I even gave it to melania to read once after grabbing her by the pussy. it's true folks, it's a beautiful, beautiful book.

Rashmun wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Idéfix wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Idéfix wrote:
I will freely admit that I was wrong. I misread this country. I thought people were nicer and more progressive than they actually are.

May be you should go on a month long trip to rural counties What did you expect from the folks who have no respect for woman's choice (pro-life), want their supreme court judges to be mullahs err preachers of Christianity.

I thought they were genuinely religious and Christian, and could see Trump for the snake-oil salesman he is. He couldn't quote a single favorite Bible verse. He very likely hasn't read the Bible, and he called it his favorite book during the primaries. But apparently they care about Supreme Court justices, abortion, gay marriage, etc. a lot more than about their "leader" being a good Christian.

the bible is a very very good book. it's such a beautiful book, I even gave it to melania to read once after grabbing her by the pussy. it's true folks, it's a beautiful, beautiful book.

Are you Megyn Kelly?

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Idéfix wrote:

truthbetold wrote:I do not think Trump will not do most of the things that democrats accused him of. He is not going to misuse nuclear button or is he going to grab any pussy (atleast publicly). He would not be able to order mass deportations nor could he push around China for new trade deals. 

He can appoint a new judge to supreme court to tilt the supreme court for next decade or two to right. But his official actions are not the biggest problem for minority citizens. The ugly forces pampered by his campaign cannot be put back in cage even if he tried (which is doubtful) . These radical extremist elements will be making forays into mainstream America and cause  local problems. At local level, there is limited to non existent capacity to fight such extreme element. Their actions will combine intellectual tricks and physical actions to stir up trouble.  Who is going to stop them?

Trump won't be able to deliver several things he promised. The question is where his movement goes from there. Do the ugly forces as you call them then turn on him, or on scapegoats like highly-educated dark-skinned foreigners doing well in "their" country?

This election was about the past. Two 70-year-olds fighting it out about each other's past mistakes, and the winner won by promising to restore a glorious past that is neither glorious nor can be restored. He cannot bring back well-paid hourly jobs in manufacturing for moderately-skilled high school graduates. This is a BIG part of his promise to America. But automation is an unstoppable trend. Human labor will do less and less factory work. When the God Emperor (as he is known in some circles of his fandom) fails on his core promises, there will be hell to pay and it may be paid by the people who lost yesterday.

dark! whatever do you mean.

Idéfix wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Idéfix wrote:

truthbetold wrote:I do not think Trump will not do most of the things that democrats accused him of. He is not going to misuse nuclear button or is he going to grab any pussy (atleast publicly). He would not be able to order mass deportations nor could he push around China for new trade deals. 

He can appoint a new judge to supreme court to tilt the supreme court for next decade or two to right. But his official actions are not the biggest problem for minority citizens. The ugly forces pampered by his campaign cannot be put back in cage even if he tried (which is doubtful) . These radical extremist elements will be making forays into mainstream America and cause  local problems. At local level, there is limited to non existent capacity to fight such extreme element. Their actions will combine intellectual tricks and physical actions to stir up trouble.  Who is going to stop them?

Trump won't be able to deliver several things he promised. The question is where his movement goes from there. Do the ugly forces as you call them then turn on him, or on scapegoats like highly-educated dark-skinned foreigners doing well in "their" country?

This election was about the past. Two 70-year-olds fighting it out about each other's past mistakes, and the winner won by promising to restore a glorious past that is neither glorious nor can be restored. He cannot bring back well-paid hourly jobs in manufacturing for moderately-skilled high school graduates. This is a BIG part of his promise to America. But automation is an unstoppable trend. Human labor will do less and less factory work. When the God Emperor (as he is known in some circles of his fandom) fails on his core promises, there will be hell to pay and it may be paid by the people who lost yesterday.

dark! whatever do you mean.

As jobs keep disappearing due to automation, rather than returning as their God-Emperor promised, who will they blame for the failure? Not Donald, because that would require admitting that they were wrong and had been conned. It will be a lot easier to blame the usual scapegoats -- immigrants, the educated elites, women who take "men's jobs." Of these groups immigrants are rather easy to target, and they will go after successful non-white immigrants like us because we are rather easy to distinguish by appearance and manner.