US Attorney Preet Bharara doesn't plan to resign, will make President fire him

by FluteHolder Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:27 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/11/politics/bharara-not-resigning/index.html?adkey=bn

by MaxEntropy_Man Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:14 pm

Brilliantly played! Too bad he wasn't born here. Fired by Adolf Twitler is fast becoming a great line on people's CV. Definitely running for governor.

by silvermani Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:34 pm

Anybody else noticed he looks similar to Nusli Wadia (of Bombay dyeing) ?

Bharara:
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Wadia:

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by pravalika nanda Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:15 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Brilliantly played! Too bad he wasn't born here. Fired by Adolf Twitler is fast becoming a great line on people's CV. Definitely running for governor.

From what I understand these are political appointees and it is expected that when a new president enters office these positions are filled with new people appointed by the new president. that is the way the govt has worked.

Initially it appears that PB had a meet with DT and the latter had asked to stay on. Perhaps Sessions was unaware of this meet. PB could've reached out to JS or DT to elucidate his current standing. It appears he did neither and instead just refused to resign. I'm not sure that it is the norm to so.

I also read that DT had refused the resignation of another AG, Dana Boente, after review and this person had been asked to stay on.

So I'm not sure why PB refused to resign or just reach out and talk. More than anything it seems to me that he is merely fighting for attention/press coverage. I am happy to reconsider my opinion if you find proof that I am wrong.

by confuzzled dude Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:53 pm

Serves him well for sucking up to racist-in-chief.

by FluteHolder Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:03 pm

I personally donot like PB for his failure to go after non-brown crooks of wall street while he was zealous to go after non-white crooks.
US Attorney Bharara fired in standoff with Trump
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/11/politics/bharara-not-resigning/index.html

by pravalika nanda Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:43 am

confuzzled dude wrote:Serves him well for sucking up to racist-in-chief.

ha ha ha. good point, dude.

yes, a most valuable observation: he was indeed happy and willing to work for Donald Trump and now that for some reason or the other he was asked to resign like everyone else he is frothing with self-righteous anger. And this is making me think that hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

Sure DT prolly ran into him and said, "preet, you're a good guy, I like you, I mean I really like you, I want you to stay on, help me make America great again." Bharara was flattered and announced that to everyone. The winds changed, priorities changed, regardless, no legal binding contract was signed and they have other candidates that they favor perhaps or maybe they don't.

But Preet Bharara saw that he didn't have a job for some reason or other, he had time-a-plenty to waste, he had the media and SEs fuming on his side as if something illegal and criminal had happened, and he decides to make it out like some liberal warrior fighting the crazy republicans. the media is happy to report the truth carefully buried in 1/2 line but takes up the falsehood and circus for the next 100 reams of paper and perhaps this will play out for the remainder of the month.

sure he was an excellent AG but he is also self-serving and wasting the nation's time when what he should've done was gracefully step down so he could indeed be missed. if he's going into politics, i'm not going to support him. i'm not supporting anyone the media is in cahoots with and lying for.

by pravalika nanda Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:44 am

silvermani wrote:Anybody else noticed he looks similar to Nusli Wadia (of Bombay dyeing) ?

Bharara:

Wadia:

I've said he looks like the Pakistani leader, Nawaz sharif

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:29 pm

Bharara didn't suck up to Trump. Trump called him during the transition phase to talk to him and asked him to stay. Bharara said yes not because Trump asked him but because he really loves this job. He has always said this is the only job he wants.

Some insight into why Trump may have fired Bharara after asking him to stay on:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/opinion/sue-while-the-conflicts-are-hot.html

Last week several public interests groups....called on Preet Bharara the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York ....to investigate the Trump organization...

It's possible President Bannon foresaw problems and he wanted to head them off. So he fired Bharara.

by silvermani Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:56 pm

pravalika nanda wrote:
silvermani wrote:Anybody else noticed he looks similar to Nusli Wadia (of Bombay dyeing) ?

Bharara:

Wadia:

I've said he looks like the Pakistani leader, Nawaz sharif

Some similarity is there but Sharif looks much older and heavier whereas a young Wadia and today's Preet Bharara look very identical.

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:45 pm

pravalika nanda wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:Serves him well for sucking up to racist-in-chief.
ha ha ha. good point, dude.

yes, a most valuable observation: he was indeed happy and willing to work for Donald Trump and now that for some reason or the other he was asked to resign like everyone else he is frothing with self-righteous anger. And this is making me think that hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

Sure DT prolly ran into him and said, "preet, you're a good guy, I like you, I mean I really like you, I want you to stay on, help me make America great again." Bharara was flattered and announced that to everyone. The winds changed, priorities changed, regardless, no legal binding contract was signed and they have other candidates that they favor perhaps or maybe they don't.

But Preet Bharara saw that he didn't have a job for some reason or other, he had time-a-plenty to waste, he had the media and SEs fuming on his side as if something illegal and criminal had happened, and he decides to make it out like some liberal warrior fighting the crazy republicans. the media is happy to report the truth carefully buried in 1/2 line but takes up the falsehood and circus for the next 100 reams of paper and perhaps this will play out for the remainder of the month.

sure he was an excellent AG but he is also self-serving and wasting the nation's time when what he should've done was gracefully step down so he could indeed be missed. if he's going into politics, i'm not going to support him. i'm not supporting anyone the media is in cahoots with and lying for.

He was never an AG. He was a federal attorney for the southern district of New York which covers Manhattan and Wall St. So he was doing a lot of work that the SEC were supposed to be doing but weren't.

A state's AG is not a federal appointment. They are AFAIK elected officials at the state level. Didn't you say were either born in the US or grew up here?

I have never understood the anger against him on this discussion board. He has put criminals in jail -- white collar workers and politicians amongst them. Bernie Madoff, Raj Rajaratnam and Rajat Gupta to name a few.

by FluteHolder Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:58 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/oct/10/preet-bharara-wall-street-defend-arrest-prosecute-bankers-crisis
This is old news but you could see why the anger against him, Esp he did not go after similar wall street criminals (Cohen, or former NJ Governor who committed much serious crimes and got settled the case with govt while the non-whites were sent to can).

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Almost all the mortgage-backed securities created during the housing bubble, for example, are governed by New York State trust law. That’s Bharara’s legal jurisdiction, and he should have done something about it.
Millions of fabricated, forged and backdated mortgage documents, many still coming in, have been submitted to offices and state courts, by financial companies who failed to properly establish ownership over mortgage loans and could not prove standing to foreclose.
An aggressive prosecutor could have found a lot to work with. Submitting those dubious documents could be a violation of law, with physical evidence – and with that in hand, it should not have been hard for law enforcement to go to the signers of the documents, and work their way up the chain of command to whoever authorized and directed the conduct. Hint: they work on Wall Street.

“I’m OK for now,” Bharara says. “But eventually, I have a family and I want to make sure I provide very well for them.”
That’s a striking statement. We should view this as Bharara’s signal of future employment availability to any high-paying sector – particularly one that can spot a team player.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/steven-cohen-sac-reach-135-million-insider-trading-settlement-1480550814

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:21 pm

High profile prosecutors aren't allowed to have the desire to provide for their families well?

by FluteHolder Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:28 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:High profile prosecutors aren't allowed to have the desire to provide for their families well?

You still donot get it. For example, if you appreciated Rajinikanth's daughter's dance as authentic BN just because she is from TN and go after only NI dancers for their bad dance performances. (PB went after only brown and left whites - Some interesting comment I saw in one site- He is a Coconut - Brown outside and white inside). He/Eric holder failed to take action on wall street thugs when they have/had power. Ultimate is money and self interest.
Look at this book which I posted earlier. IT is written by a Federal Judge in NYC.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2014/01/09/financial-crisis-why-no-executive-prosecutions/

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by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:33 pm

FluteHolder wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:High profile prosecutors aren't allowed to have the desire to provide for their families well?
You still donot get it. For example, if you appreciated Rajinikanth's daughter's dance as authentic BN just because she is from TN and go after only NI dancers for their bad dance recitals. (PB went after only brown and left whites - Some interesting comment I saw in one site- He is a Coconut - Brown outside and white inside). He/Eric holder failed to take action on wall street thugs when they have/had power. Ultimate is money and self interest.
Look at this book which I posted earlier. IT is written by a Federal Judge in NYC.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2014/01/09/financial-crisis-why-no-executive-prosecutions/

It is one thing to say he could have done more, and yet another to completely discredit his work and view it through a completely cynical lens. I belong to the former category. I wish he had done more to catch higher profile criminals. But many of the people we all like to dislike, Jamie Dimon for example skirted the very fine line between what's legal and what isn't. I am sure they were clever enough to get solid legal advice to make sure they went very close to that line but stayed on the side that's legal, even if it's only barely so. I am ready to give him the benefit of doubt that he tried to do his best. You are not. That may have to do with your own more cynical nature than anything real. I am also sufficiently self aware that I am giving him a longer rope because of my own political leanings. Life is like that. But I will not accept that his entire career is driven by sinister motives. It is demonstrably not true.

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:38 pm

An article about Bharara's high profile cases. It's not all Indians or brown people.

http://www.businessinsider.com/preet-bharara-trump-fired-high-profile-cases-2017-3

This article doesn't even discuss how he brought down Sheldon Silver and other powerful democratic politicians in NY. When he was fired he was also going after Bill DeBlasio and Cuomo.

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:47 pm

To Fluteholder: In politics as in anything else you have to pick a side. Both sides are bad so i won't is not a good strategy. It's necessary to be critical, but you do have to pick a side that can do the most good or at least the least amount of bad. Democracy is messy. There is no perfect answer, only optimal answers.

by FluteHolder Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:08 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:To Fluteholder: In politics as in anything else you have to pick a side. Both sides are bad so i won't is not a good strategy. It's necessary to be critical, but you do have to pick a side that can do the most good or at least the least amount of bad. Democracy is messy. There is no perfect answer, only optimal answers.

That is exactly how TN chose JJ over MK and you can see what happened/Happening in TN. I donot see much difference here.

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:28 pm

FluteHolder wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:To Fluteholder: In politics as in anything else you have to pick a side. Both sides are bad so i won't is not a good strategy. It's necessary to be critical, but you do have to pick a side that can do the most good or at least the least amount of bad. Democracy is messy. There is no perfect answer, only optimal answers.
That is exactly how TN chose JJ over MK and you can see what happened/Happening in TN. I donot see much difference here.

You have a better solution? Let's hear it. Clearly you voted with your feet moving out of TN and made a voluntary choice to move to the US. The fact that you have a better life here is not unconnected to the political system and the choices people have made here. I don't find your assertion that things aren't any better here credible. Not only do I not find it credible, I don't think you actually believe that.

by pravalika nanda Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:49 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:Serves him well for sucking up to racist-in-chief.
ha ha ha. good point, dude.

yes, a most valuable observation: he was indeed happy and willing to work for Donald Trump and now that for some reason or the other he was asked to resign like everyone else he is frothing with self-righteous anger. And this is making me think that hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

Sure DT prolly ran into him and said, "preet, you're a good guy, I like you, I mean I really like you, I want you to stay on, help me make America great again." Bharara was flattered and announced that to everyone. The winds changed, priorities changed, regardless, no legal binding contract was signed and they have other candidates that they favor perhaps or maybe they don't.

But Preet Bharara saw that he didn't have a job for some reason or other, he had time-a-plenty to waste, he had the media and SEs fuming on his side as if something illegal and criminal had happened, and he decides to make it out like some liberal warrior fighting the crazy republicans. the media is happy to report the truth carefully buried in 1/2 line but takes up the falsehood and circus for the next 100 reams of paper and perhaps this will play out for the remainder of the month.

sure he was an excellent AG but he is also self-serving and wasting the nation's time when what he should've done was gracefully step down so he could indeed be missed. if he's going into politics, i'm not going to support him. i'm not supporting anyone the media is in cahoots with and lying for.

He was never an AG. He was a federal attorney for the southern district of New York which covers Manhattan and Wall St. So he was doing a lot of work that the SEC were supposed to be doing but weren't.

A state's AG is not a federal appointment. They are AFAIK elected officials at the state level. Didn't you say were either born in the US or grew up here?

I have never understood the anger against him on this discussion board. He has put criminals in jail -- white collar workers and politicians amongst them. Bernie Madoff, Raj Rajaratnam and Rajat Gupta to name a few.

yes, i noted your correction.
this guy wanted his ego massaged. the media pretended like DT and sessions were somehow at fault (even though DT tried to call PB to explain himself. n.b. Bharara didn't care about protocol much when DT informally asked him to stay on and all of a sudden cites protocol and refuses DT's attempt to reach him). PB comes across as a fishy guy in this instance. And the media played along. Is it too much to ask the media to display integrity? I thought they were in the lush business of selling facts. I am happy to criticize trump when he is wrong but actually here, he wasn't.

Anyhow I have no more to say but here's a link from someone more articulate than me:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-13/bharara-should-have-resigned-or-explained-why-he-didn-t

by pravalika nanda Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:50 pm

oh and also I have never thought that PB was targeting indinas.

by Propagandhi711 Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:20 pm

hurt feelings and petty tribal jealousies itt

by Idéfix Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:07 pm

Bharara did a good job as US attorney. He was investigating allegations that Fox News management illegally tracked reporters' phone logs. And now there is speculation that Bharara will be replaced by the attorney representing Roger Ailes, the slimy groper who built Fox News and had to leave because of sexual harassment claims.

Drain the swamp, retrieve creatures dwelling at its bottom, and place them in prominent positions.

by Guest Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:14 pm

allegedly he was also investigating some russian money laundering real estate deals that trump himself was directly involved in.

by Idéfix Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:14 am

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/872792642312077313/

Preet Bharara has a reserved seat at today's Comey hearing...

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