Such a great country that allows you to be here

by Idéfix Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:02 pm

Sean Spicer tells Indian-American woman in Apple Store “such a great country that allows you to be here”

https://news.vice.com/story/sean-spicer-tells-woman-in-apple-store-such-a-great-country-that-allows-you-to-be-here

Congratulations, Indian-American supporters of Trump. For being allowed to be here...

by Guest Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:54 pm

well, looks like she resides in a wrong neighborhood. you don't hear such things if you live in affluent neighborhoods with high level of literacy.

by Shyam Sundar Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:35 pm

What was she thinking?

It was not only rude but also stupid.

If She had done that to a member of the ruling family in Saudi Arabia, She might have ended up with 100 lashes.

Indian Americans have succeeded in keeping a low profile in public and by being star in their fields.

She was asking for it.

Foreigner in America means brown or yellow.

In India, it is White.

Deal with it.

by MaxEntropy_Man Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:41 pm

Shyam Sundar wrote:What was she thinking?

It was not only rude but also stupid.

If She had done that to a member of the ruling family in Saudi Arabia, She might have ended up with 100 lashes.

Indian Americans have succeeded in keeping a low profile in public and by being star in their fields.

She was asking for it.

Foreigner in America means brown or yellow.

In India, it is White.

Deal with it.

She's not in Saudi. She is a citizen of one of the world's great democracies. She seems to be dealing with it just fine. Are you?

by Guest Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:44 pm

lol, funny how some people HATE saudis, but at the same time wish that others were subjected to a Saudi treatment.

complex minds.

by Seva Lamberdar Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:53 pm

She seems to be too confrontational during her chance meeting with a Govt. official.

by Hellsangel Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:05 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:She seems to be too confrontational during her chance meeting with a Govt. official.

Yep. She acts like an asshole and a jerk but she is the victim here. Tsk tsk.

by Guest Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:12 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:She seems to be too confrontational during her chance meeting with a Govt. official.

she was out of line. but she's not the one in power here. his reply could have suited his position. He could have not replied at all. It's his reply that leaves one with many open questions and interpretations. out of all the things he could have said or done in response, this is what he had to say. Consider this, this would not be in the news if he didn't respond. Kind of like how Pence didn't respond when he was confronted in a theatre.

by MaxEntropy_Man Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:13 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:She seems to be too confrontational during her chance meeting with a Govt. official.
Yep. She acts like an asshole and a jerk but she is the victim here. Tsk tsk.

Agree Melissa is acting like a jerk, but her boss the occupant of the WH is a bigger jerk.

by MaxEntropy_Man Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:15 pm

Anyone who complains about jerk like behavior towards the WH or the many WH surrogates ought to first confront the loutish behavior of the guy at the top.

by Hellsangel Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:57 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:She seems to be too confrontational during her chance meeting with a Govt. official.
Yep. She acts like an asshole and a jerk but she is the victim here. Tsk tsk.

Agree Melissa is acting like a jerk, but her boss the occupant of the WH is a bigger jerk.

Your libby righteous indignation is cute, Il Professore.

by garam-kuta Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:12 pm

Idéfix wrote:Sean Spicer tells Indian-American woman in Apple Store “such a great country that allows you to be here”

https://news.vice.com/story/sean-spicer-tells-woman-in-apple-store-such-a-great-country-that-allows-you-to-be-here

Congratulations, Indian-American supporters of Trump. For being allowed to be here...

wrong choice of words by spicer.
but tell me o' great glut admin, can a first class citizen in india behave like that with any assistant of a low level politician or IAS babu? what will happen to her?
can an andhra person say things like that to the assistant to assistant to assistant of kcr?
and did you feel this indignant when kcr as CM warned andhra people, if you want to live in this land, you have to salute us otherwise we will bury you 10 kilometers deep? as CM and not as a rabble rousing politician.

https://youtu.be/ICil70eqPso?t=46

what does that make andhra people in telangana? third, fourth or fifth class citizens?

can a kannada person talk like that to a TN official and vice versa? can a southindian behave like that in north? a bihari in maharashtra?

by silvermani Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:27 pm

He was confronted by an angry, emotional woman who live telecast the encounter. Given the circumstances, he did rather well. This might be a shock to the safe space dwelling liberals but it is a known fact that the average American considers brown skinned people outsiders even if they were born here. Dont like it? Move elsewhere!

by garam_kuta Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:13 pm

silvermani wrote:He was confronted by an angry, emotional woman who live telecast the encounter. Given the circumstances, he did rather well. This might be a shock to the safe space dwelling liberals but it is a known fact that the average American considers brown skinned people outsiders even if they were born here. Dont like it? Move elsewhere!

I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood." a child born of English parents in Peking is not Chinese but English, or that a child born of Indian parents in Birmingham is not English but Indian.

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:43 am

silvermani wrote:He was confronted by an angry, emotional woman who live telecast the encounter. Given the circumstances, he did rather well. This might be a shock to the safe space dwelling liberals but it is a known fact that the average American considers brown skinned people outsiders even if they were born here. Dont like it? Move elsewhere!

He is not an average American. He is the WH mouthpiece. Be that as it may, your reactions are far more interesting and entertaining as you have not only accepted your Republican masters' attitude but actively promulgate it. Like the "house negro" from antebellum days.

Explainer on "house negro":
http://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/mmt/mxp/speeches/mxa17.html

by Hellsangel Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:51 am

Sean Spicer needs to be commended for keeping his cool around a mad, rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth libby.

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:58 am

Having said all that, the woman asked him the wrong questions. I would have asked him in a calm voice if his boss had stopped beating his wife and if his boss's puppet had stopped groping women. No need for the hysterical attitude.

by Hellsangel Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:01 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Having said all that, the woman asked him the wrong questions. I would have asked him in a calm voice if his boss had stopped beating his wife and if his boss's puppet had stopped groping women. No need for the hysterical attitude.

You think? You should look at some of your own statements above, Il Professore. You're still whining.

by Guest Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:01 am

from what i have heard... in china, no non-chinese can become a citizen. Not even if you are born there, but to non chinese immigrants, and not even if you marry a chinese.... exceptions, if any, are rare. In UK, at some point in the 70s, they stopped giving citizenship status by birth. So a child born there would have the same status as their parents at the time of the birth. So can see the perceptions there. (funny i don't know the rules in india).

USA, so far, has had a culture of assimilation. You are born here, you go through the public school systems here, you are a citizen. You may keep parts of your heritage, but you are an american. Even when you take the citizenship, you are made to take the oath to forget about where you came from, and be loyal to america. Regarding what an average american thinks, guess it depends on age and demographics. Most white americans under 50 that I know who grew up in northeast here with a diverse group, they can right away determine who is a real immigrant, and who was born and raised here. Maybe the moment a person starts speaking, or just by the way of mannerisms. And they behave differently with American Borns and immigrants.

So while as immigrants, we may still have some mental block to become assertive towards our rights, especially given the background of the country we came from, what are we going to teach our children? They don't know any other country, and they know the constitution here too well.

Besides, it's a matter of time. Every ethnicity had to struggle and fight to start getting accepted by the ethnicity that came before them. Key point being, unless they fight for it, they are not gonna get it. And that's very american.

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:15 am

t w wrote:from what i have heard... in china, no non-chinese can become a citizen. Not even if you are born there, but to non chinese immigrants, and not even if you marry a chinese.... exceptions, if any, are rare. In UK, at some point in the 70s, they stopped giving citizenship status by birth. So a child born there would have the same status as their parents at the time of the birth. So can see the perceptions there. (funny i don't know the rules in india).

USA, so far, has had a culture of assimilation. You are born here, you go through the public school systems here, you are a citizen. You may keep parts of your heritage, but you are an american. Even when you take the citizenship, you are made to take the oath to forget about where you came from, and be loyal to america. Regarding what an average american thinks, guess it depends on age and demographics. Most white americans under 50 that I know who grew up in northeast here with a diverse group, they can right away determine who is a real immigrant, and who was born and raised here. Maybe the moment a person starts speaking, or just by the way of mannerisms. And they behave differently with American Borns and immigrants.

So while as immigrants, we may still have some mental block to become assertive towards our rights, especially given the background of the country we came from, what are we going to teach our children? They don't know any other country, and they know the constitution here too well.

Besides, it's a matter of time. Every ethnicity had to struggle and fight to start getting accepted by the ethnicity that came before them. Key point being, unless they fight for it, they are not gonna get it. And that's very american.

You put your finger on it. It's a dangerous attitude to pass on to the next gen.

by Idéfix Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:25 am

Hellsangel wrote:Sean Spicer needs to be commended for keeping his cool around a mad, rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth libby.

I commend him for that. And I commend you for being allowed to be here in such a nice country.

by Idéfix Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:27 am

silvermani wrote:He was confronted by an angry, emotional woman who live telecast the encounter. Given the circumstances, he did rather well. This might be a shock to the safe space dwelling liberals but it is a known fact that the average American considers brown skinned people outsiders even if they were born here. Dont like it? Move elsewhere!

That's not how America works. Racism does not need to be accepted as a fact of life. It can and should be opposed wherever it is encountered.

by Idéfix Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:29 am

garam-kuta wrote:
Idéfix wrote:Sean Spicer tells Indian-American woman in Apple Store “such a great country that allows you to be here”

https://news.vice.com/story/sean-spicer-tells-woman-in-apple-store-such-a-great-country-that-allows-you-to-be-here

Congratulations, Indian-American supporters of Trump. For being allowed to be here...
wrong choice of words by spicer.
but tell me o' great glut admin, can a first class citizen in india behave like that with any assistant of a low level politician or IAS babu? what will happen to her?
can an andhra person say things like that to the assistant to assistant to assistant of kcr?
and did you feel this indignant when kcr as CM warned andhra people, if you want to live in this land, you have to salute us otherwise we will bury you 10 kilometers deep? as CM and not as a rabble rousing politician.

https://youtu.be/ICil70eqPso?t=46

what does that make andhra people in telangana? third, fourth or fifth class citizens?

can a kannada person talk like that to a TN official and vice versa? can a southindian behave like that in north? a bihari in maharashtra?

America is not India, and India is not America. KCR is a disgusting politician, and we have many of them all over India. Just because India has disgusting politicians, I don't think it is OK for the White House press secretary to make racist comments.

by Idéfix Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:32 am

Hellsangel wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:She seems to be too confrontational during her chance meeting with a Govt. official.
Yep. She acts like an asshole and a jerk but she is the victim here. Tsk tsk.

If a white woman was rude and aggressive towards him in that same setting, he would not have responded with the line about her being "allowed to be here." He knows it, you know it, everybody knows it! (To use the language of a guy you are not brave enough to support openly).

by Hellsangel Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:35 am

Idéfix wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:She seems to be too confrontational during her chance meeting with a Govt. official.
Yep. She acts like an asshole and a jerk but she is the victim here. Tsk tsk.
If a white woman was rude and aggressive towards him in that same setting, he would not have responded with the line about her being "allowed to be here." He knows it, you know it, everybody knows it! (To use the language of a guy you are not brave enough to support openly).

Go ahead and cry racism and sexism everytime you need to whine.

by confuzzled dude Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:50 am

Idéfix wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:She seems to be too confrontational during her chance meeting with a Govt. official.
Yep. She acts like an asshole and a jerk but she is the victim here. Tsk tsk.
If a white woman was rude and aggressive towards him in that same setting, he would not have responded with the line about her being "allowed to be here." He knows it, you know it, everybody knows it! (To use the language of a guy you are not brave enough to support openly).

HA might be one of those NIs who think they're caucasian thus white.. but but Chauhan is a NI name, isn't it?

by Hellsangel Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:52 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:She seems to be too confrontational during her chance meeting with a Govt. official.
Yep. She acts like an asshole and a jerk but she is the victim here. Tsk tsk.
If a white woman was rude and aggressive towards him in that same setting, he would not have responded with the line about her being "allowed to be here." He knows it, you know it, everybody knows it! (To use the language of a guy you are not brave enough to support openly).
HA might be one of those NIs who think they're caucasian thus white.. but but Chauhan is a NI name, isn't it?

Yes, Comrade. Go ahead and play the old Al Sharpton game. Act like a jerk and then play the racism card.

by confuzzled dude Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:21 am

Hellsangel wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:She seems to be too confrontational during her chance meeting with a Govt. official.
Yep. She acts like an asshole and a jerk but she is the victim here. Tsk tsk.
If a white woman was rude and aggressive towards him in that same setting, he would not have responded with the line about her being "allowed to be here." He knows it, you know it, everybody knows it! (To use the language of a guy you are not brave enough to support openly).
HA might be one of those NIs who think they're caucasian thus white.. but but Chauhan is a NI name, isn't it?
Yes, Comrade. Go ahead and play the old Al Sharpton game. Act like a jerk and then play the racism card.

You misunderstood me. I was merely opining that Spicer, a moron that he is, didn't realize that NIs are white too. He probably was looking at the laws book from the '20s Smile

In any case, are you suggesting that it is OKAY to be racist (like Spicer did) when someone confronts you or you think he meant - his boss is not a fascist because he allows her to be in the US?

by silvermani Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:25 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
silvermani wrote:He was confronted by an angry, emotional woman who live telecast the encounter. Given the circumstances, he did rather well. This might be a shock to the safe space dwelling liberals but it is a known fact that the average American considers brown skinned people outsiders even if they were born here. Dont like it? Move elsewhere!

He is not an average American. He is the WH mouthpiece. Be that as it may, your reactions are far more interesting and entertaining as you have not only accepted your Republican masters' attitude but actively promulgate it. Like the "house negro" from antebellum days.

Explainer on "house negro":
http://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/mmt/mxp/speeches/mxa17.html

Awareness of peoples' prejudices doesn't mean one accepts a status of inferiority or a lowly place in the social hierarchy. Trying to deny that the prejudice exists, arguing that it should not exist or expressed publicly is naive. And, what a joke - you with your uncle Tom attitude posting links to house negro. Remember, the house negro aspires/believes he is on a level above the other negroes but he is still a negro, his master can dispense with him anytime. Just like Uncle Tom's owner sold him after all those years of loyal service. So keep drinking the koolaid and keep tooting your liberal horn - because that is what upper caste whites do, right?

by silvermani Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:28 am

t w wrote:from what i have heard... in china, no non-chinese can become a citizen. Not even if you are born there, but to non chinese immigrants, and not even if you marry a chinese.... exceptions, if any, are rare. In UK, at some point in the 70s, they stopped giving citizenship status by birth. So a child born there would have the same status as their parents at the time of the birth. So can see the perceptions there. (funny i don't know the rules in india).

USA, so far, has had a culture of assimilation. You are born here, you go through the public school systems here, you are a citizen. You may keep parts of your heritage, but you are an american. Even when you take the citizenship, you are made to take the oath to forget about where you came from, and be loyal to america. Regarding what an average american thinks, guess it depends on age and demographics. Most white americans under 50 that I know who grew up in northeast here with a diverse group, they can right away determine who is a real immigrant, and who was born and raised here. Maybe the moment a person starts speaking, or just by the way of mannerisms. And they behave differently with American Borns and immigrants.

So while as immigrants, we may still have some mental block to become assertive towards our rights, especially given the background of the country we came from, what are we going to teach our children? They don't know any other country, and they know the constitution here too well.

Besides, it's a matter of time. Every ethnicity had to struggle and fight to start getting accepted by the ethnicity that came before them. Key point being, unless they fight for it, they are not gonna get it. And that's very american.

Don't teach them anything. They will figure it out by themselves.

by silvermani Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:37 am

Idéfix wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:She seems to be too confrontational during her chance meeting with a Govt. official.
Yep. She acts like an asshole and a jerk but she is the victim here. Tsk tsk.
If a white woman was rude and aggressive towards him in that same setting, he would not have responded with the line about her being "allowed to be here." He knows it, you know it, everybody knows it! (To use the language of a guy you are not brave enough to support openly).

So this is expected behavior. Then why are people "shocked" about this? We(Indians) didn't come here fleeing persecution or to get social justice. We came here of our own choice - to earn $ and there are trade offs for that. Make peace with that fact or continue to show your "outrage" and be an internet social justice warrior.

by Hellsangel Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:42 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Yep. She acts like an asshole and a jerk but she is the victim here. Tsk tsk.
If a white woman was rude and aggressive towards him in that same setting, he would not have responded with the line about her being "allowed to be here." He knows it, you know it, everybody knows it! (To use the language of a guy you are not brave enough to support openly).
HA might be one of those NIs who think they're caucasian thus white.. but but Chauhan is a NI name, isn't it?
Yes, Comrade. Go ahead and play the old Al Sharpton game. Act like a jerk and then play the racism card.
You misunderstood me. I was merely opining that Spicer, a moron that he is, didn't realize that NIs are white too. He probably was looking at the laws book from the '20s

In any case, are you suggesting that it is OKAY to be racist (like Spicer did) when someone confronts you or you think he meant - his boss is not a fascist because he allows her to be in the US?

Go ahead and assume racism Comrade if it helps you whine, Comrade. Even the MSM is not playing up the story coz they seem to realize what a jerk that woman was being.

by confuzzled dude Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:46 am

Racist-in-chief goes into hiding when minority folks get shot/killed but it doesn't take much to open his mouth e.g. he tweets when a white guy is mildly offended.

Also on Monday, Trump seemed to allude to the incident in a Monday morning tweet.
It is amazing how rude much of the media is to my very hard working representatives. Be nice, you will do much better!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 13, 2017
Chauhan, who works in education policy, is not a member of “the media.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2017/03/13/sean-spicer-gets-confronted-in-apple-store-trumps-responds/?utm_term=.36660f0c850b

by Hellsangel Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:50 am

confuzzled dude wrote:Racist-in-chief goes into hiding when minority folks get shot/killed but it doesn't take much to open his mouth e.g. he tweets when a white guy is mildly offended.
Also on Monday, Trump seemed to allude to the incident in a Monday morning tweet.
It is amazing how rude much of the media is to my very hard working representatives. Be nice, you will do much better!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 13, 2017
Chauhan, who works in education policy, is not a member of “the media.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2017/03/13/sean-spicer-gets-confronted-in-apple-store-trumps-responds/?utm_term=.36660f0c850b

WaPo needs to be commended for the way they arrive at their facts.

Trump seemed to allude to the incident in a Monday morning tweet.

And of course that idiot of a woman:

In her Medium post, Chauhan, who is of Indian heritage, characterized that response as threatening and racist.

At least they call harassment for what it is

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2017/02/06/omarosa-and-her-bridesmaids-went-shopping-and-an-ugly-political-scene-erupted/

by Guest Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:54 am

silvermani wrote:
t w wrote:from what i have heard... in china, no non-chinese can become a citizen. Not even if you are born there, but to non chinese immigrants, and not even if you marry a chinese.... exceptions, if any, are rare. In UK, at some point in the 70s, they stopped giving citizenship status by birth. So a child born there would have the same status as their parents at the time of the birth. So can see the perceptions there. (funny i don't know the rules in india).

USA, so far, has had a culture of assimilation. You are born here, you go through the public school systems here, you are a citizen. You may keep parts of your heritage, but you are an american. Even when you take the citizenship, you are made to take the oath to forget about where you came from, and be loyal to america. Regarding what an average american thinks, guess it depends on age and demographics. Most white americans under 50 that I know who grew up in northeast here with a diverse group, they can right away determine who is a real immigrant, and who was born and raised here. Maybe the moment a person starts speaking, or just by the way of mannerisms. And they behave differently with American Borns and immigrants.

So while as immigrants, we may still have some mental block to become assertive towards our rights, especially given the background of the country we came from, what are we going to teach our children? They don't know any other country, and they know the constitution here too well.

Besides, it's a matter of time. Every ethnicity had to struggle and fight to start getting accepted by the ethnicity that came before them. Key point being, unless they fight for it, they are not gonna get it. And that's very american.

Don't teach them anything. They will figure it out by themselves.

of course they will. and our being extra scared and staying under the radar is not a good example setting anyway. I know i have my own inherent fears and prejudices, but it's something i am working on changing myself.

That "crazy" woman in the video was born here. She could have been a crazy white woman, and not got the same response. She could have been a crazy black woman, and most likely got shot. But when she acted on her impulse, she most likely wasn't thinking of her skin color. She was thinking of herself as a concerned citizen. This entire incident is not about how she misbehaved. It's about what she was told by a WH official.

some people here are arguing she should have known racism exist, right? or we should know it exists? or am i missing something? Ok, it exists. We all agree it does. what's the next step? Continue staying subdued for next 4 generations, or start voicing against it? If we are on the same page, then we are good. But some arguments here seems like they are saying one shouldn't even speak out.

by Guest Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:55 am

confuzzled dude wrote:Racist-in-chief goes into hiding when minority folks get shot/killed but it doesn't take much to open his mouth e.g. he tweets when a white guy is mildly offended.
Also on Monday, Trump seemed to allude to the incident in a Monday morning tweet.
It is amazing how rude much of the media is to my very hard working representatives. Be nice, you will do much better!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 13, 2017
Chauhan, who works in education policy, is not a member of “the media.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2017/03/13/sean-spicer-gets-confronted-in-apple-store-trumps-responds/?utm_term=.36660f0c850b

i thought that tweet was about Conway's treatment by the media. The burst everytime she opens her mouth.

by confuzzled dude Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:57 am

Hellsangel wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:Racist-in-chief goes into hiding when minority folks get shot/killed but it doesn't take much to open his mouth e.g. he tweets when a white guy is mildly offended.
Also on Monday, Trump seemed to allude to the incident in a Monday morning tweet.
It is amazing how rude much of the media is to my very hard working representatives. Be nice, you will do much better!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 13, 2017
Chauhan, who works in education policy, is not a member of “the media.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2017/03/13/sean-spicer-gets-confronted-in-apple-store-trumps-responds/?utm_term=.36660f0c850b
WaPo needs to be commended for the way they arrive at their facts.

Trump seemed to allude to the incident in a Monday morning tweet.

And of course that idiot of a woman:

In her Medium post, Chauhan, who is of Indian heritage, characterized that response as threatening and racist.

At least they call harassment for what it is

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2017/02/06/omarosa-and-her-bridesmaids-went-shopping-and-an-ugly-political-scene-erupted/

keep clutching at straws.

by Hellsangel Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:02 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:Racist-in-chief goes into hiding when minority folks get shot/killed but it doesn't take much to open his mouth e.g. he tweets when a white guy is mildly offended.
Also on Monday, Trump seemed to allude to the incident in a Monday morning tweet.
It is amazing how rude much of the media is to my very hard working representatives. Be nice, you will do much better!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 13, 2017
Chauhan, who works in education policy, is not a member of “the media.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2017/03/13/sean-spicer-gets-confronted-in-apple-store-trumps-responds/?utm_term=.36660f0c850b
WaPo needs to be commended for the way they arrive at their facts.

Trump seemed to allude to the incident in a Monday morning tweet.

And of course that idiot of a woman:

In her Medium post, Chauhan, who is of Indian heritage, characterized that response as threatening and racist.

At least they call harassment for what it is

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2017/02/06/omarosa-and-her-bridesmaids-went-shopping-and-an-ugly-political-scene-erupted/
keep clutching at straws.

Ha ha ha! That's you and your whining libby loon friends, Comrade.

by confuzzled dude Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:13 pm

t w wrote:
of course they will. and our being extra scared and staying under the radar is not a good example setting anyway. I know i have my own inherent fears and prejudices, but it's something i am working on changing myself.

That "crazy" woman in the video was born here. She could have been a crazy white woman, and not got the same response. She could have been a crazy black woman, and most likely got shot. But when she acted on her impulse, she most likely wasn't thinking of her skin color. She was thinking of herself as a concerned citizen. This entire incident is not about how she misbehaved. It's about what she was told by a WH official.

some people here are arguing she should have known racism exist, right? or we should know it exists? or am i missing something? Ok, it exists. We all agree it does. what's the next step? Continue staying subdued for next 4 generations, or start voicing against it? If we are on the same page, then we are good. But some arguments here seems like they are saying one shouldn't even speak out.

I've always told my kids that they're as american as any other guy and not let their looks/skin color come in between. I have told them to stand their ground and not let anyone bully them.

by Idéfix Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:01 pm

silvermani wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:She seems to be too confrontational during her chance meeting with a Govt. official.
Yep. She acts like an asshole and a jerk but she is the victim here. Tsk tsk.
If a white woman was rude and aggressive towards him in that same setting, he would not have responded with the line about her being "allowed to be here." He knows it, you know it, everybody knows it! (To use the language of a guy you are not brave enough to support openly).
So this is expected behavior. Then why are people "shocked" about this? We(Indians) didn't come here fleeing persecution or to get social justice. We came here of our own choice - to earn $ and there are trade offs for that. Make peace with that fact or continue to show your "outrage" and be an internet social justice warrior.

It is not "expected behavior" from a senior government official. It is racist period, plain and simple. I came here of my own accord, but I don't accept racism as expected behavior. You are welcome to choose otherwise if you think that's a trade-off you need to make to earn whatever $ you do.

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:40 pm

by Hellsangel Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:46 pm

Oh please, Il Professore! Now spin the "They came for me" speech.

by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:25 pm

Hellsangel wrote:Oh please, Il Professore! Now spin the "They came for me" speech.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-campaign-indian-american-supporter_us_57b760bce4b00d9c3a17a8f3

by Hellsangel Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:46 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:Oh please, Il Professore! Now spin the "They came for me" speech.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-campaign-indian-american-supporter_us_57b760bce4b00d9c3a17a8f3

Perhaps you should research Jake Anantha before your "Sky is falling" shpiel, Il Professore.

Jake Anantha, 18, told the Charlotte Observer that a staff member tasked with security said they recognized him as a frequent protester and escorted him out of the convention hall shortly before the rally began

http://www.charlottestories.com/cpcc-student-jake-anantha-kicked-charlottes-trump-rally-due-racial-profiling/

by Idéfix Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:16 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Funny that there is a nice illustration of this in this thread after you posted this picture.

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