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Post by FluteHolder Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:47 pm


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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:32 pm

Here is someone who is knowledgeable in what she promotes (unlike Sadaguru who looks for soundbites):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9K0cZGQgHA

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Post by FluteHolder Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:52 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Here is someone who is knowledgeable in what she promotes (unlike Sadaguru who looks for soundbites):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9K0cZGQgHA
I am not sure he is looking for soundbites. He(His org) does lots of work in ..http://www.projectgreenhands.org/

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:26 pm

FluteHolder wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Here is someone who is knowledgeable in what she promotes (unlike Sadaguru who looks for soundbites):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9K0cZGQgHA
I am not sure he is looking for soundbites. He(His org) does lots of work in ..http://www.projectgreenhands.org/
I know a little bit about Isha foundation (and their work) :-).

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Post by FluteHolder Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:43 pm

I have seen few videos of Ms.Shiva though there are some interesting controversies around her fees/claims Smile
https://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/07/17/anti-gmo-activist-vandana-shiva-earns-40000-per-speech-advocating-policies-that-harm-poor/
Shiva’s usual fee for an American university appearance is $40,000 plus a business class round-trip ticket from New Delhi.

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:05 pm

FluteHolder wrote:I have seen few videos of Ms.Shiva though there are some interesting controversies around her fees/claims Smile
https://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/07/17/anti-gmo-activist-vandana-shiva-earns-40000-per-speech-advocating-policies-that-harm-poor/
Shiva’s usual fee for an American university appearance is $40,000 plus a business class round-trip ticket from New Delhi.
She never claimed that she was a swami or a guru. 

Do you know how much is Isha's cut in the deal with L&T on planting? How much of the money from the govt. is funnelled? How about the free land Sadaguru gets? In Amaravati (AP), CBN gave prime real estate for free. Sadaguru also charges a lot of money for his sessions. Isha is involved in controversies - for example, they are accused of encroaching onto forest land in Coimbatore......

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:23 pm

I don't know if this is true, but here is a controversy surrounding Jaggi's wife's death (read his "extremely scientific" explanations):

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/hindu2/2016/08/sadhguru-jaggi-vasudevs-wifes-death-controversy-truth/

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Post by smArtha Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:12 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
FluteHolder wrote:I have seen few videos of Ms.Shiva though there are some interesting controversies around her fees/claims Smile
https://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/07/17/anti-gmo-activist-vandana-shiva-earns-40000-per-speech-advocating-policies-that-harm-poor/
Shiva’s usual fee for an American university appearance is $40,000 plus a business class round-trip ticket from New Delhi.
She never claimed that she was a swami or a guru. 

Do you know how much is Isha's cut in the deal with L&T on planting? How much of the money from the govt. is funnelled? How about the free land Sadaguru gets? In Amaravati (AP), CBN gave prime real estate for free. Sadaguru also charges a lot of money for his sessions. Isha is involved in controversies - for example, they are accused of encroaching onto forest land in Coimbatore......

Do you know how much is the cut? As of now all you made or unsubstantiated allegations without proof or numbers. Just mental projections and extrapolations.

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Post by FluteHolder Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:08 pm

VP, for a moment I thought R is posting as you. None of the isha's allegations has been proven. Infact he challenged if any one proves even one mistake, SG said he will shut down the entire ashram! And in another interview, he said he doesnot get any money and all the books are audited by third party accountants too. And Charity watch has some decent rankings on Isha too. None of the accusers have taken his challenge and prove anything against Isha. Even highcourt sent arrest warrant for the ant-isha website owners when they did not come to the hearing in court... (BTW, I am not a member of Isha, nor a past/present student of them).

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:12 pm

smArtha wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
FluteHolder wrote:I have seen few videos of Ms.Shiva though there are some interesting controversies around her fees/claims Smile
https://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/07/17/anti-gmo-activist-vandana-shiva-earns-40000-per-speech-advocating-policies-that-harm-poor/
Shiva’s usual fee for an American university appearance is $40,000 plus a business class round-trip ticket from New Delhi.
She never claimed that she was a swami or a guru. 

Do you know how much is Isha's cut in the deal with L&T on planting? How much of the money from the govt. is funnelled? How about the free land Sadaguru gets? In Amaravati (AP), CBN gave prime real estate for free. Sadaguru also charges a lot of money for his sessions. Isha is involved in controversies - for example, they are accused of encroaching onto forest land in Coimbatore......

Do you know how much is the cut? As of now all you made or unsubstantiated allegations without proof or numbers. Just mental projections and extrapolations.
Yeah true, projections and extrapolations. I think, he is a businessman.

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:23 pm

FluteHolder wrote:VP, for a moment I thought R is posting as you. None of the isha's allegations has been proven. Infact he challenged if any one proves even one mistake, SG said he will shut down the entire ashram! And in another interview, he said he doesnot get any money and all the books are audited by third party accountants too. And Charity watch has some decent rankings on Isha too. None of the accusers have taken his challenge and prove anything against Isha. Even highcourt sent arrest warrant for the ant-isha website owners when they did not come to the hearing in court... (BTW, I am not a member of Isha, nor a past/present student of them).
I don't know how many of those allegations on Jaggi are true. It is possible that he is falsely accused. 

Thanks for posting the discourse by Sarvapriyananda at IIT-K.

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