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Amnesia of people in the Trump orbit
by Idéfix Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:19 pm
People on Fox News, including senior Republicans on Capitol Hill, are beginning to talk about the real issue here. Hint for trumptards: it is not Democrats!
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/11/trey-gowdy-trump-russia-240432
House Oversight Chairman Trey Gowdy [R-SC] lashed out at the Trump administration Tuesday over the “drip, drip” in the ongoing Russia controversy, sarcastically suggesting that officials get checked for amnesia about any contacts with Russia.
“If you had a contact with Russia, tell the special counsel about it! Don’t wait until The New York Times figures it out!” an exasperated Gowdy said in a brief interview outside the Capitol on Tuesday.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/11/trey-gowdy-trump-russia-240432
House Oversight Chairman Trey Gowdy [R-SC] lashed out at the Trump administration Tuesday over the “drip, drip” in the ongoing Russia controversy, sarcastically suggesting that officials get checked for amnesia about any contacts with Russia.
“If you had a contact with Russia, tell the special counsel about it! Don’t wait until The New York Times figures it out!” an exasperated Gowdy said in a brief interview outside the Capitol on Tuesday.
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Re: Amnesia of people in the Trump orbit
by MaxEntropy_Man Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:36 pm
Wish there'd be more such outbursts. There is nothing that pleases me more than Republican fratricide.
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Re: Amnesia of people in the Trump orbit
by Idéfix Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:50 pm
Most Republicans put party over country. They will defend or condone awful behavior from their own leaders: e.g. bragging about pussy-grabbing, body-slamming reporters and then lying about what happened. So it is good to see some of them start to speak out about the problem here.
If a Democratic president's campaign chief had attended a meeting with a foreign national with the express purpose of obtaining dirt on his election opponent, at least half the Democrats in Congress would be condemning that behavior, and asked for the resignations of everyone who attended the meeting while an investigation takes place. I haven't seen any Republicans calling for Kushner to resign or be fired.
If a Democratic president's campaign chief had attended a meeting with a foreign national with the express purpose of obtaining dirt on his election opponent, at least half the Democrats in Congress would be condemning that behavior, and asked for the resignations of everyone who attended the meeting while an investigation takes place. I haven't seen any Republicans calling for Kushner to resign or be fired.
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Re: Amnesia of people in the Trump orbit
by Idéfix Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:35 pm
More fun on Fox News...
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tucker-carlson-interview-goes-sideways-044723181.html
"Hard to see why he's a threat to us," he continued. "Why not just accept that people who are bad people share our interest and side with them?"
"You sound like Charles Lindbergh in 1938 saying, 'Hitler hasn't attacked us,'" Peters said.
"You made your career being an American conservative patriot, and now you're suddenly cheering for Vladimir Putin?" Peters said.
https://youtu.be/rXg0cpvzNMk?t=5m20s
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tucker-carlson-interview-goes-sideways-044723181.html
"Hard to see why he's a threat to us," he continued. "Why not just accept that people who are bad people share our interest and side with them?"
"You sound like Charles Lindbergh in 1938 saying, 'Hitler hasn't attacked us,'" Peters said.
"You made your career being an American conservative patriot, and now you're suddenly cheering for Vladimir Putin?" Peters said.
https://youtu.be/rXg0cpvzNMk?t=5m20s
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Re: Amnesia of people in the Trump orbit
by Idéfix Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:18 pm
Now, from National Review, the original voice of the conservative movement.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449406/donald-trump-jr-russia-meeting-campaign-explanation-naive-dangerous
After months of deception and misdirection, why should anyone believe the Trump administration’s account of the meeting? Why should anyone believe that this is the last shoe to drop or the only shoe to drop demonstrating an effort to collude with Russian efforts to influence the 2016 election? And yet conservatives are rallying across the Internet, ignoring all previous false statements, and essentially saying, “Now we know the truth, and the truth is that nothing happened.” This isn’t analysis; it’s wishful thinking.
When confronted with written evidence that Russia was actively seeking to use Americans to intervene in a presidential election, Donald Trump Jr. should have refused the meeting. He should have alerted the FBI. Instead, he not only said “I love it,” he pulled in Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner. At the time, Manafort was the Trump-campaign chairman. Kushner is currently one of the most powerful men in the administration, in charge of a vast portfolio of public policy. Then, after that meeting, he surrounded his misdeeds with a bodyguard of lies. There is no excuse.
My colleague Jonah Goldberg has given perhaps the best one-sentence advice for conservatives in these troubling times: “Trust nothing, defend nothing.” We don’t know the truth. We don’t know the extent of the Trump team’s misdeeds. We do, however, know enough to reject the administration’s spin.
Principled conservatives will do well to heed that advice. Trumptards, OTOH, may continue with their foolhardy defense of the indefensible.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449406/donald-trump-jr-russia-meeting-campaign-explanation-naive-dangerous
No, You Don’t ‘Take the Meeting’
Let’s leave aside the obvious fact that no living Republican would be making those arguments if equivalent news emerged about a Democratic president’s team and address the core of the argument. Yes, it is a “big deal” when senior representatives of an American presidential campaign meet with a purported representative of a hostile foreign power for the purpose of cooperating in that foreign power’s effort to influence an American presidential campaign. It’s an even bigger deal when news of that meeting emerges after an avalanche of denials and evasions.After months of deception and misdirection, why should anyone believe the Trump administration’s account of the meeting? Why should anyone believe that this is the last shoe to drop or the only shoe to drop demonstrating an effort to collude with Russian efforts to influence the 2016 election? And yet conservatives are rallying across the Internet, ignoring all previous false statements, and essentially saying, “Now we know the truth, and the truth is that nothing happened.” This isn’t analysis; it’s wishful thinking.
When confronted with written evidence that Russia was actively seeking to use Americans to intervene in a presidential election, Donald Trump Jr. should have refused the meeting. He should have alerted the FBI. Instead, he not only said “I love it,” he pulled in Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner. At the time, Manafort was the Trump-campaign chairman. Kushner is currently one of the most powerful men in the administration, in charge of a vast portfolio of public policy. Then, after that meeting, he surrounded his misdeeds with a bodyguard of lies. There is no excuse.
My colleague Jonah Goldberg has given perhaps the best one-sentence advice for conservatives in these troubling times: “Trust nothing, defend nothing.” We don’t know the truth. We don’t know the extent of the Trump team’s misdeeds. We do, however, know enough to reject the administration’s spin.
Principled conservatives will do well to heed that advice. Trumptards, OTOH, may continue with their foolhardy defense of the indefensible.
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