Interesting times ahead for India: communalism vs casteism

Rashmun wrote:Interesting times are ahead for India. Now that the chaddis have perfected the art of instigating communal tensions (with the occasional communal riot thrown in) for political gains and electoral victories, the response of the chaddi opponents seems to be to instigate casteist tensions (with the occasional caste based riot thrown in) to combat chaddi hegemony in the Indian political arena.

The current caste based violence and tensions in Maharashtra could well be an attempt of the chaddi opponents to fight communalism with casteism so as to regain the political initiative.

What the country needs is neither casteism nor communalism, but secularism of the kind practiced in developed countries.

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Rashmun wrote:Interesting times are ahead for India. Now that the chaddis have perfected the art of instigating communal tensions (with the occasional communal riot thrown in) for political gains and electoral victories, the response of the chaddi opponents seems to be to instigate casteist tensions (with the occasional caste based riot thrown in) to combat chaddi hegemony in the Indian political arena.

The current caste based violence and tensions in Maharashtra could well be an attempt of the chaddi opponents to fight communalism with casteism so as to regain the political initiative.

What the country needs is neither casteism nor communalism, but secularism of the kind practiced in developed countries.

Forget about the kind of secularism in developed countries as long as India officially continues to have quotas and reservations in education and jobs according to castes and multiple and separate legal systems based on religions; the developed secular countries have neither the separate and multiple legal systems based on religions officially for its citizens, nor the caste based quotas in education and jobs for people.

Btw, have you considered the backlash from some communities against caste based reservations to dalits and others as SC?  ('They are scared of Dalit assertion’: Jignesh Mevani speaks on Bhima Koregaon violence ... https://scroll.in/article/863588/they-are-scared-of-dalit-assertion-jignesh-mevani-speaks-on-bhima-koregaon-violence)

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Rashmun wrote:Interesting times are ahead for India. Now that the chaddis have perfected the art of instigating communal tensions (with the occasional communal riot thrown in) for political gains and electoral victories, the response of the chaddi opponents seems to be to instigate casteist tensions (with the occasional caste based riot thrown in) to combat chaddi hegemony in the Indian political arena.

The current caste based violence and tensions in Maharashtra could well be an attempt of the chaddi opponents to fight communalism with casteism so as to regain the political initiative.

What the country needs is neither casteism nor communalism, but secularism of the kind practiced in developed countries.

Forget about the kind of secularism in developed countries as long as India officially continues to have quotas and reservations in education and jobs according to castes and multiple and separate legal systems based on religions; the developed secular countries have neither the separate and multiple legal systems based on religions officially for its citizens, nor the caste based quotas in education and jobs for people.

Btw, have you considered the backlash from some communities against caste based reservations to dalits and others as SC?  ('They are scared of Dalit assertion’: Jignesh Mevani speaks on Bhima Koregaon violence ... https://scroll.in/article/863588/they-are-scared-of-dalit-assertion-jignesh-mevani-speaks-on-bhima-koregaon-violence)

Rashmun wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Rashmun wrote:Interesting times are ahead for India. Now that the chaddis have perfected the art of instigating communal tensions (with the occasional communal riot thrown in) for political gains and electoral victories, the response of the chaddi opponents seems to be to instigate casteist tensions (with the occasional caste based riot thrown in) to combat chaddi hegemony in the Indian political arena.

The current caste based violence and tensions in Maharashtra could well be an attempt of the chaddi opponents to fight communalism with casteism so as to regain the political initiative.

What the country needs is neither casteism nor communalism, but secularism of the kind practiced in developed countries.

Forget about the kind of secularism in developed countries as long as India officially continues to have quotas and reservations in education and jobs according to castes and multiple and separate legal systems based on religions; the developed secular countries have neither the separate and multiple legal systems based on religions officially for its citizens, nor the caste based quotas in education and jobs for people.

Btw, have you considered the backlash from some communities against caste based reservations to dalits and others as SC?  ('They are scared of Dalit assertion’: Jignesh Mevani speaks on Bhima Koregaon violence ... https://scroll.in/article/863588/they-are-scared-of-dalit-assertion-jignesh-mevani-speaks-on-bhima-koregaon-violence)

caste based quotas need to be opposed but so does caste based violence. your thesis is flawed because no one in India has the guts to perpetrate caste based violence against OBC castes (like the Yadavas of UP and Bihar) who also benefit from caste based reservation. The caste based violence seems to be directed almost exclusively towards dalits. Watch this video and tell me if it made your blood boil:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLgIQYbsNGU

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Rashmun wrote:Interesting times are ahead for India. Now that the chaddis have perfected the art of instigating communal tensions (with the occasional communal riot thrown in) for political gains and electoral victories, the response of the chaddi opponents seems to be to instigate casteist tensions (with the occasional caste based riot thrown in) to combat chaddi hegemony in the Indian political arena.

The current caste based violence and tensions in Maharashtra could well be an attempt of the chaddi opponents to fight communalism with casteism so as to regain the political initiative.

What the country needs is neither casteism nor communalism, but secularism of the kind practiced in developed countries.

Forget about the kind of secularism in developed countries as long as India officially continues to have quotas and reservations in education and jobs according to castes and multiple and separate legal systems based on religions; the developed secular countries have neither the separate and multiple legal systems based on religions officially for its citizens, nor the caste based quotas in education and jobs for people.

Btw, have you considered the backlash from some communities against caste based reservations to dalits and others as SC?  ('They are scared of Dalit assertion’: Jignesh Mevani speaks on Bhima Koregaon violence ... https://scroll.in/article/863588/they-are-scared-of-dalit-assertion-jignesh-mevani-speaks-on-bhima-koregaon-violence)

caste based quotas need to be opposed but so does caste based violence. your thesis is flawed because no one in India has the guts to perpetrate caste based violence against OBC castes (like the Yadavas of UP and Bihar) who also benefit from caste based reservation. The caste based violence seems to be directed almost exclusively towards dalits. Watch this video and tell me if it made your blood boil:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLgIQYbsNGU

This type of negative reaction, even violence, is likely from communities which think that quotas based on caste in education and jobs are basically unfair and unjustifiable, especially when the quota recipients engage in celebrations etc. against others.