H-M synthesis in Tamil Nadu: Some additional details

by Guest Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:04 pm

This topic has been covered earlier ( https://such.forumotion.com/t4662-h-m-synthesis-savor-and-preserve-eclectic-heritage#37258 ) , but some additional details are given in this post.

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Indeed the famous mosque at Nagore, (near Nagapattinam in South India) the tomb of Miran Sahib, which has its own tank like in a Hindu temple, is visited by thousands of Hindu pilgrims who come to fulfil their vows to the Saint, who is credited with miraculous powers. Similarly at the great Hindu temple of Palni near Kerala border, together with the millions of Hindu pilgrims, we can see many Muslims who come to pay obeisance to the deity, whom they refer to as Palani Andavar, or the God of Palni. The fact that the deity is Lord Subrahmanya of the Hindu pantheon, makes the shrine no less sacred to the Muslim pilgrims, who customarily offer joss sticks as their gifts to the shrines.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020324/spectrum/main4.htm

by Guest Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:07 pm

Another great shrine, famous in south India, is the temple dedicated to Thuluka Nachiar or Turkish Goddess in the temple of Srirangam. The deity is actually a Muslim princess, whose father had taken away the Vishnu image from a Hindu shrine. The princess had fallen in love with the image and when the Hindu priests guided by a supernatural dream came to take away the idol, she refused to part with it. Finally, ordered by her father to give away the image, the heartbroken girl followed the deity to the temple of Srirangam. There she ‘disappeared’ into the sanctum sanctorum, as happened in the case of Meerabai in North India. In honour of her great devotion to God Vishnu, she is worshipped as his consort in the historic temple of Srirangam, and strangely enough, the ceremonial Naivdya everyday at her shrine is ‘bread and butter’ normally taboo in orthodox Hindu temples.

The famous dargah at Chettinad in Madras state is another shrine endowed with gifts from the Hindu rajahs of Pudukottai and Ramanathapuram. Bava Fakhruddin Auliya was a Muslim fakir from Arabia and during his wanderings came to south India. Near the Vaishnava shrine of Tirukoshtiyur, he came across some Brahmin girls, who were hesitating to pass through a dense forest en route the shrine. The saint escorted them through the forest and through his miraculous powers is said to have blinded a gang of dacoits, who tried to molest the party. Further, the saint is said to have created a tank with his divine powers to enable the Brahmin girls to quench their thirst. His tomb, known as Kattu Bava Dargah, is sacred to both Hindus and Muslims.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020324/spectrum/main4.htm

by Kayalvizhi Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:24 pm

I see Tamil Nadu entering the twenty-first century as a slave nation discriminated and steadily impoverished by the Indian government. I also see Tamil Nadu breaking the chains of servitude, emerging as a free, independent nation and growing prosperous under self-rule during the twenty-first century. - Dr. Thanjai Nalankilli

http://www.tamiltribune.com/98/1002.html

by MaxEntropy_Man Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:27 pm

your threads sound so labored. they're labored because these examples don't seem very natural but seem entirely contrived. i don't think tamilians indulge in such obviously made up hindu muslim bhai bhai. mostly they leave each other alone.

but if you want examples where there has been organic cross pollination between cultures, google the following: m.m.ismail, sheikh chinna maulana, and sIrApurANam.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:34 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:your threads sound so labored. they're labored because these examples don't seem very natural but seem entirely contrived. i don't think tamilians indulge in such obviously made up hindu muslim bhai bhai. mostly they leave each other alone.

but if you want examples where there has been organic cross pollination between cultures, google the following: m.m.ismail, sheikh chinna maulana, and sIrApurANam.

Here is a hint:

Maulana Al-Akbai Rashmunullah Jehadi rarely reads ANYTHING he cut/vomits - by his own admission. Naturally, he has no clue what his own posts say. He likes his name to be in limelight on the front page... Notice how he responds 3,4,5 times to his own threads - often a dozen threads on his "topic" of the week. Actually, there is only one topic and we all know what it is.

by Guest Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:40 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:your threads sound so labored. they're labored because these examples don't seem very natural but seem entirely contrived. i don't think tamilians indulge in such obviously made up hindu muslim bhai bhai. mostly they leave each other alone.

but if you want examples where there has been organic cross pollination between cultures, google the following: m.m.ismail, sheikh chinna maulana, and sIrApurANam.

m.m. ismail and sheikh chinna maulana are clearly relevant examples on this issue; but what is the relevance of sIrapuranam?

by MaxEntropy_Man Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:49 pm

Rashmun wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:your threads sound so labored. they're labored because these examples don't seem very natural but seem entirely contrived. i don't think tamilians indulge in such obviously made up hindu muslim bhai bhai. mostly they leave each other alone.

but if you want examples where there has been organic cross pollination between cultures, google the following: m.m.ismail, sheikh chinna maulana, and sIrApurANam.

m.m. ismail and sheikh chinna maulana are clearly relevant examples on this issue; but what is the relevance of sIrapuranam?

it is the story of the nabigaL nayagam (prophet muhammad in tamil) rendered into poetry of the same meter as the kambarAmAyaNam and organized very similarly to it in kANdams (phases) of the prophet's life. clearly the author umaRuppulavar had drunk deep from the kambarAmAyaNam.

by Guest Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:50 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:your threads sound so labored. they're labored because these examples don't seem very natural but seem entirely contrived. i don't think tamilians indulge in such obviously made up hindu muslim bhai bhai. mostly they leave each other alone.

but if you want examples where there has been organic cross pollination between cultures, google the following: m.m.ismail, sheikh chinna maulana, and sIrApurANam.

m.m. ismail and sheikh chinna maulana are clearly relevant examples on this issue; but what is the relevance of sIrapuranam?

it is the story of the nabigaL nayagam (prophet muhammad in tamil) rendered into poetry of the same meter as the kambarAmAyaNam and organized very similarly to it in kANdams (phases) of the prophet's life. clearly the author umaRuppulavar had drunk deep from the kambarAmAyaNam.

thanks.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:52 pm

Rashmun wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:your threads sound so labored. they're labored because these examples don't seem very natural but seem entirely contrived. i don't think tamilians indulge in such obviously made up hindu muslim bhai bhai. mostly they leave each other alone.

but if you want examples where there has been organic cross pollination between cultures, google the following: m.m.ismail, sheikh chinna maulana, and sIrApurANam.

m.m. ismail and sheikh chinna maulana are clearly relevant examples on this issue; but what is the relevance of sIrapuranam?

I rest my case.

by Guest Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:54 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:your threads sound so labored. they're labored because these examples don't seem very natural but seem entirely contrived. i don't think tamilians indulge in such obviously made up hindu muslim bhai bhai. mostly they leave each other alone.

but if you want examples where there has been organic cross pollination between cultures, google the following: m.m.ismail, sheikh chinna maulana, and sIrApurANam.

m.m. ismail and sheikh chinna maulana are clearly relevant examples on this issue; but what is the relevance of sIrapuranam?

I rest my case.

Nouraandu vazhga!

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